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Trouble installing SCIM m17n in Puppy 3.01
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amitagroyee

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 01:21    Post_subject:  

I am using 2.17 in my home pc and 3.01 in my office pc.
On which version it will be more easy?
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Irihapeti
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 02:20    Post_subject:  

amitagroyee:

I don't know which version will be easier. RR Koothady and Juveno41 were working with 3.01. The files that I have were compiled for a standard install of Puppy 2.17. I can upload them here, but there are 12MB of them and I'm on a dialup. That's why I wanted to know first if they'd be useful to you Smile Give me a few hours (I have other tasks needing attention in the meantime) and I can post them here.
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RR Koothady

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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Location: Coimbatore, India

PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 08:05    Post_subject: Uploading is the Issue Amit  

Dear Amit:

नमसते !

Uploading was the issue behind loading separate files. Please bear with me.

However, for ease - please use ROUTE ONE of Irihapeti.
This supports Hindi.
I mean - Please Install :
1)SCIM, 2) SCIM-BRIDGE, 3) SCIM TABLES and please follow other particulars already mentioned in this thread.

The Second Route using additional m17n files is not necessary for Hindi.

I know very little Hindi. Think I have typed "Namasthe" correctly using SCIM - Hindi Phonetic Keyboard - in Puppy 3.01.

I am in 3.01, and have not tested this in pre 3 Puppies. 3.01 accepts SCIM comfortably.

Enjoy!!

Ramesh

BTW: I thought you may be interested in the following related post too:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27400
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ipd98

Joined: 22 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 12:58    Post_subject: SCIM for Puppy 3.01  

The download links provided by Juveno41 are not working anymore. Could anybody help to upload the files for downloading. So happy find a scim solution, but ......
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RR Koothady

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 13:14    Post_subject:  

Dear ipd98:
The following links are still active. So why worry? This is Route 2 - the m17n Route- a little cumbersome of the 2 scim paths available.

http://rapidshare.com/files/105920191/m17n-lib-1.5.1-i486.pet.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/105920192/m17n-db-1.5.1-i486.pet.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/105920194/scim-1.4.7-i486.pet.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/105920195/scim-m17n-0.2.2-i486.pet.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/105920196/scim-tables-0.5.8-i486.pet.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/105920198/table-imengine-setup.so.html

The first route is to install scim-bridge, scim and scim-tables alone - No m17n. However, please check in this thread whether the language of your need is available in this route. Please note that m17n gives us 41 and the scim-bridge route gives us 19 languages. So, choose accordingly.

I found some installation problems with juveno's pets. However Irihapeti's scim-bridge pet works fine. Pleas check this thread again as she has uploaded this pet here itself for us to use.

Enjoy!

Ramesh
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ipd98

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 14:24    Post_subject: SCIM for Puppy 3.01  

Dear Koothady,

Thanks for your prompt reply and the links! The 19 languages are sufficient to me and I also want scim be more versatile. I am still downloading the files and will response if I success.

Thanks again Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2008, 15:53    Post_subject:  

I tried uploading the files last night (local time) and didn't succeed. If anyone specifically needs the files I've compiled on Puppy 2.17, I can find another way to upload them. However, given the time it would take me, I'd prefer to wait until I know there's a definite need.
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ipd98

Joined: 22 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr 2008, 11:43    Post_subject: SCIM for Pupeee  

Dear RRK,

Thank for your help! SCIM is working perfectly in my eeepc. I have a full functioning puppy for my daily work now! Very Happy

Your instruction is very clear except one part; it may mislead a newbie to linux. Hope that you don't mind. Thanks a gain.

vii) Add following 2 lines just after the path statement of /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.

"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim.so"
"scim" "SCIM Input Method" "" "" ""
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RR Koothady

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Apr 2008, 13:29    Post_subject:  

Dear ipd98

Let's thank Irihapeti and Juveno for passionately involving themselves to solve the SCIM issue once and all for Puppy.

It's heartening that SCIM is working well in your eee pc. And, why should I mind for telling me that my instruction is not clear in a place or two? After all, are we not the ones who are going to write a crystal clear instruction in Puppy wiiki on SCIM soon? That is - after we test and get used to scim in Puppy for may be a month or two?

I am just curious to know your language. I am also curious to know about Amit inputting Hindi in his Puppy. Hope he has also succeeded like you.

Three Cheers to all Puppy Scim-ers!

Ramesh
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Irihapeti
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2008, 02:42    Post_subject: Install and uninstall scripts for scim-bridge  

Well, if this is possibly going to end up in the Puppy wiki, it would be a good idea if someone vetted the install and uninstall scripts that I wrote for my own version of scim-bridge.

Then they could be included in a dotpet file for those who don't wish to hand-edit their configuration files.

Since they are fairly short, I've just added them as code blocks to the message.


The install script:

Code:
#!/bin/sh
cp /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.bak

#add entry to gtk.immodules
echo '"/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/immodules/im-scim-bridge.so"' >> /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules
echo '"scim-bridge" "SCIM Bridge Input Method" "" "" ""' >> /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules

#add entry to .xinitrc, near beginning
sed -i -e 's/PUPSTATE/PUPSTATE\
\
GTK_IM_MODULE="scim-bridge"\
export GTK_IM_MODULE/' ~/.xinitrc


The uninstall script:

Code:
#!/bin/sh

#remove entry from gtk.immodules
sed -i /scim-bridge/d /etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules

#remove entry from .xinitrc
sed -i '
/.*scim-bridge./ {
   N
   N
   d
   }
' ~/.xinitrc   

Any comments?
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2008, 03:08    Post_subject:  

Smile One of the most amazing things is finding
a version of Puppy translated and working in a diversity of scripts
and in completely new and diverse ways.

That is why we welcome everyone to participate.
You guys are our strength.

Many people are finding that Puppy in their own language
makes their computer hardware investment worthwhile.

Keep up the great work Smile

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amitagroyee

Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2008, 04:04    Post_subject:  

Thanks a lot Irihapeti and RR Koothady for providing me such a solution and guidance about scim.

I observed the Irihapeti way and succeded.

the steps are: (I am using 3.01 frugal install)

The first route is to install scim-bridge, scim and scim-tables alone as discussed by RR Koothady anywhere in this thread.

after 1st course of installation, nothing happened.
While exploring I found that all the three pet packages are lying in My document.

I once again installed the packages from there. All went well no dependency problem.
I re booted and started using scim.



Thanks once again. I can kick the m$winXp now.

Amit
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RR Koothady

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2008, 05:09    Post_subject:  

Thanks Ed for your appreciation.

Happy to know that Amit has also succeeded with हिनदि (Hindi)!

Irihapeti: That looks wonderful. Please tell us how this code can be put inside a pet, so that our scim can become a true "CLICK AND RUN SCIM"?!

Ramesh
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Irihapeti
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2008, 17:15    Post_subject: Putting scripts inside .pet files  

RRK:

The full instructions for putting scripts inside .pets are here:

http://www.puppylinux.com/development/createpet.htm

Note that it contains instructions for inserting stuff into a .pet for which you don't have the original source code. Kudos to Barry for creating a document that a complete newbie (to pet-making) can follow easily.

Irihapeti
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RR Koothady

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr 2008, 05:50    Post_subject: script inclusion  

Irihapeti:

I did the following. Nothing happens at: /etc/gtk2/immodules and ~/.xinitrc after this. I think I have gone wrong somewhere...

Ramesh
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