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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 06:41    Post subject:  RealPlayer.pup  

Here's a dotpup for Real Player. The url to download it is: http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=1414RealPlayer.pup

I've got one made for Thunderbird too, but couldn't get it uploaded tonight. I should have some more in the near future as well.

This dotpup, and the dotpup for Thunderbird both install into /usr/local
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 06:45    Post subject:  

Humm, that was me that made the above post, but for some reason it logged me out before I got the post made, which is really strange because I hadn't been logged on for more than 5 minutes.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 07:21    Post subject:  

Thanks Johnny

Downloaded and installed OK
(when you click on your first real meda file make sure you "open with" usr/local/Realplayer/Realplayer)

Look forward to Thunderbird
The Installer (from the Thunderbird people) worked OK but a dotpup would be even more convenient with the dotpup package installer

Smile Cheers - good job

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 12:27    Post subject:  

Does this work any better with embedded video, like that at http://news.bbc.co.uk ? Otherwise, I'm not sure I see the reason for this, since you can download the .bin file from http://www.real.com and install RealPlayer that way. Doing that seemed to work just fine with linked media but not with embedded media.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 21:37    Post subject:  

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Does this work any better with embedded video, like that at http://news.bbc.co.uk ?

i have been experimenting with mozplugger, which will use mplayer or gxine or will run any application you set it up to use

in particular, i found the reason the news.bbc videos don't play, is because they won't play period ... embedded or not ... what you get is errors like these:

Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[h264 @ 0x8698600]AVC: Consumed only 8052 bytes instead of 12
[h264 @ 0x8698600]error, NO frame
mplayer: h264.c:1948: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0]' failed.

or these:

Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[h264 @ 0x8698600]AVC: Consumed only 99195 bytes instead of 12
[h264 @ 0x8698600]concealing 2147480362 errors
mplayer: h264.c:2074: hl_motion: Assertion `((sub_mb_type)&0x0040)' failed.

they might (or might not) play with MU's xorg installed

there's a list of some streams that work and some streams that do not work on this Gentoo wiki page

there are probably licensing issues with Realplayer ... in general, i don't think Realplayer, Java, Flash etc etc can be legally distributed without the distributor getting some sort of license ... i have a Java installer program that downloads and installs Java (after the user reads and agrees to the license) ... i think my program should be legal, but i could be wrong
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 23:24    Post subject:  

GuestToo wrote:

i have been experimenting with mozplugger, which will use mplayer or gxine or will run any application you set it up to use

in particular, i found the reason the news.bbc videos don't play, is because they won't play period ... embedded or not ... what you get is errors like these:

Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[h264 @ 0x8698600]AVC: Consumed only 8052 bytes instead of 12
[h264 @ 0x8698600]error, NO frame
mplayer: h264.c:1948: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0]' failed.

or these:

Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
[h264 @ 0x8698600]AVC: Consumed only 99195 bytes instead of 12
[h264 @ 0x8698600]concealing 2147480362 errors
mplayer: h264.c:2074: hl_motion: Assertion `((sub_mb_type)&0x0040)' failed.

they might (or might not) play with MU's xorg installed


But I would have thought they would work with RealPlayer, which installed just fine in Puppy from the RealPlayer10GOLD.bin file download from www.real.com. This did work just fine with Kanotix, and I did get video playback in Puppy but no sound, even though sound worked with other files and CDs.

GuestToo wrote:

there are probably licensing issues with Realplayer ... in general, i don't think Realplayer, Java, Flash etc etc can be legally distributed without the distributor getting some sort of license ... i have a Java installer program that downloads and installs Java (after the user reads and agrees to the license) ... i think my program should be legal, but i could be wrong

That's the thing, though. RealPlayer is a free download from Real.com and it includes what should be the necessary codecs.

Although it is a bit messy (I had to download the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension for Firefox), RealPlayer in Kanotix does playback embedded video from BBC and also Associated Press. The same configuration (as far as I know it's the same) does not work in Puppy. I even installed Firefox and still no luck.

I know Kanotix is a bigger distribution than Puppy (600 vs. 60 MB), but I'm wondering if anyone is aware of anything in particular that is missing from Puppy which might cause this problem. I'm stumped Confused

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 23:52    Post subject: Puppy runs the BBC  

The BBC are a weird lot - hey they produced "Dr Who" and "Life on Earth"

They licensed a special version of Realplayer which probably cost us UK license holders some serious cash (in the UK we have to buy a license to watch the BBC)
The BBC thought it wrong for a public service to carry ads.

They also are making efforts to make EVERY program the BBC
has ever created free on the Internet. I say!

They are kind of the Tux Linux Penguin of broadcasting.

If you contact them - they will provide someone to get Puppy working with the BBC. If not let me know and I will take it up - after all I am one of their sponsors Wink

Anyway Walt you are in the UK so probably knew all that . . .

. . . can see the News 24 now "Puppy runs the BBC"

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 00:03    Post subject: Re: Puppy runs the BBC  

Lobster wrote:
The BBC are a weird lot - hey they produced "Dr Who" and "Life on Earth"

They licensed a special version of Realplayer which probably cost us UK license holders some serious cash (in the UK we have to buy a license to watch the BBC)


Actually, I got it working in Kanotix using the stand-alone RealPlayer with the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension for Firefox. It looks a little messier with more things open, but it does work.

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If you contact them - they will provide someone to get Puppy working with the BBC. If not let me know and I will take it up - after all I am one of their sponsors Wink

I'll give that a try. Do you happen to know if there is a specific link for this? Navigating some of the support aspects of the BBC site can be a bit like negotiating a maze. If contacting them doesn't work, I'll get you to lean on 'em a bit Smile

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Anyway Walt you are in the UK so probably knew all that . . .

. . . can see the News 24 now "Puppy runs the BBC"

Actually, I'm not, but I've always been a fan of the BBC's brand of news.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 02:16    Post subject:  

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I know Kanotix is a bigger distribution than Puppy (600 vs. 60 MB)

i think this is the difference ... Puppy using Xvesa does not seem to play those stream ... Vector Linux using Xfree86 does play them, using the identical mozplugger plugin ... screenshot

it might work with MU's Xorg installed
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 04:14    Post subject: Re: Puppy runs the BBC  

Walt H wrote:

I'll give that a try. Do you happen to know if there is a specific link for this?


You need to address it to every email you can find (web masters are good)

Address it like so:

For the Attention of the DG* (Private and confidential)

Here is a sample letter:
Quote:

Dear Sir,

I am a BBC service user and expect more from the BBC. Why oh why is it not possible to view on line video in Puppy Linux (an Australian non-commercial operating system). Who is responsible for this fiasco? I am a fan of the BBC. I hope you can restore my confidence.

Dissapointed Netizen





The DG is the Director General - marking it "Private and confidential" will ensure practically everyone reads it

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct 2005, 06:44    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Thanks Johnny

Look forward to Thunderbird
The Installer (from the Thunderbird people) worked OK but a dotpup would be even more convenient with the dotpup package installer

Smile Cheers - good job


Your Welcome, and I hope I can get Thunderbird uploaded. I'm on dialup, and having a hell of a time uploading. I've tried uploading it at least 30 to 40 times now. I''m not sure what the problem is...........it don't appear to be a tcp/ip or connection problem because *most* of the time (at least as best as I can tell, and I have gone online, and went straight to uploading & checked how much outgoing traffic I've had when the upload breaks off & it's been between 10Mb & 12Mb each time I've done that) the entire 10Mb gets uploaded. Does anyone know of another site that will allow you to upload files like that yourfilehost.com site? I'll sure try another if someone knows of one.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Oct 2005, 04:02    Post subject:  

GuestToo wrote:

there are probably licensing issues with Realplayer ... in general, i don't think Realplayer, Java, Flash etc etc can be legally distributed without the distributor getting some sort of license ... i have a Java installer program that downloads and installs Java (after the user reads and agrees to the license) ... i think my program should be legal, but i could be wrong


GuestToo, sorry I meant to reply to this awhile back, but forgot until tonight. Regardless, as far as licensing issues go, I think the info here: https://helixcommunity.org/content/licenses should alleviate any concerns about that.


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