How to do a FULL install of Puppy, to an empty HDD (2010)
Ahh, I see. Trying the frugal on sda2 first.
It shoud be /dev/sda2 in the grub config window.
Use legacy grub; might make that windows partition nonsense
go away.
edit:
You would need sda2 flagged as boot in gparted.
It shoud be /dev/sda2 in the grub config window.
Use legacy grub; might make that windows partition nonsense
go away.
edit:
You would need sda2 flagged as boot in gparted.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
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Booting the live cd is starting fresh;Sky Aisling wrote:I don't mind going back and starting from scratch.
My concern is that I will ruin something by inappropriately leaving this screen (like cold cutting the machine). I don't know how to leave the screen.
Will I be able to boot the Live CD again? (In order to try again).
should be able to do it a few thousand times if you don't scratch
the cd.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
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Yes, that's what I need to know. Thank you.
I'm assuming there will be some sort of partition structure and boot registry there to boot a Live CD again? I haven't lost it by cold cutting the machine.
I'm hoping that the GParted work that I did will still be in effect.
If true,
I'll then use *GParted* to add a boot flag to sda1.
I'll redo CatDude's Step 5 and edit the *menu.lst* again making sure I *rename* the old list (just in case) and *save* the new edited list.
If not,
then I'll just start from scratch again. Can't Dance, too wet to plow.
(I have a feeling that when I took the *blank* option on the box *Grubconfig: Hard Drive MBR* that the menu.lst reverted back to a default list.)
Thanks rjbrewer.
I'm assuming there will be some sort of partition structure and boot registry there to boot a Live CD again? I haven't lost it by cold cutting the machine.
I'm hoping that the GParted work that I did will still be in effect.
If true,
I'll then use *GParted* to add a boot flag to sda1.
I'll redo CatDude's Step 5 and edit the *menu.lst* again making sure I *rename* the old list (just in case) and *save* the new edited list.
If not,
then I'll just start from scratch again. Can't Dance, too wet to plow.
(I have a feeling that when I took the *blank* option on the box *Grubconfig: Hard Drive MBR* that the menu.lst reverted back to a default list.)
Thanks rjbrewer.
Hello Sky
I am a little confused by your screenshot screenshot_GRUB1.png
That dialogue box looks different to the one i get in Puppy-431 retro
(see sequence of screenshots below)
Also, why is sda1 mounted in your screenshot ?
I don't think it should be.
I also see that sdb1 mounted
i am assuming that is your flash drive, from which you copied the files in step 3.
Then run the GRUB Installer
CatDude
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I am a little confused by your screenshot screenshot_GRUB1.png
That dialogue box looks different to the one i get in Puppy-431 retro
(see sequence of screenshots below)
- NOTE:
In image grub-3.png
i eventually entered /dev/hda8 (after i took the screenshot )
as you can see in images grub-5.png and grub-7.png
This is where i told you to put /dev/sda1 (in step 4)
as i assumed you to be using the normal version of Puppy-431 with the newer kernel.
Also, why is sda1 mounted in your screenshot ?
I don't think it should be.
I also see that sdb1 mounted
i am assuming that is your flash drive, from which you copied the files in step 3.
After doing that, unmount & remove your flash drive as well.CatDude wrote:3. Mount /dev/sda2
and create a directory called: lupu520
Copy these files from the lupu-520.isoand put them into /dev/sda2/lupu520
- initrd.gz
lupu_520.sfs
vmlinuz
Unmount /dev/sda2
Then run the GRUB Installer
CatDude
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Good Morning CatDude,
I know we are in different time zones, so, I'm dropping this quick reply to let you know I'm reading your question in detail and will reply further as I study your words today.
The *screenshot_GRUB1.png* is a box that appeared in sequence where you saw *grub-7.png*. Instead of the box you saw, *grub-7.png*, I saw *screenshot_GRUB1.png* then a closure of the procedure after I chose a blank response.
Yes, sdb1 is the flash drive which contains the lupu-520.iso and associated files, initrd.gz,
lupu_520.sfs, vmlinuz. The lupu-520.iso and associated files are resident on the flash drive.
I know we are in different time zones, so, I'm dropping this quick reply to let you know I'm reading your question in detail and will reply further as I study your words today.
The *screenshot_GRUB1.png* is a box that appeared in sequence where you saw *grub-7.png*. Instead of the box you saw, *grub-7.png*, I saw *screenshot_GRUB1.png* then a closure of the procedure after I chose a blank response.
Yes, sdb1 is the flash drive which contains the lupu-520.iso and associated files, initrd.gz,
lupu_520.sfs, vmlinuz. The lupu-520.iso and associated files are resident on the flash drive.
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[Situation Solved]
Successful Install
My error was in not *saving* the changed *menu.lst* when using the *Geany* text editor provided during the *Grub bootloader configuration*.
Note to readers just stepping into this thread: please read the special circumstances of the disc used to create this install. See my post of Thu 30 Jun 2011, 02:56
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 18556fece4
After I recouped from the error 15 page:
I followed exactly CatDude's suggestion on page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=195.
(I did not need to repeat Step 2 or Step 3 as they had stayed in place even after a 'cold cut' of the machine.)
FYI - Here is the machine and Puppy OS configuration:
Machine:
Fujitsu Lifebook Pseries 256 RAM, 20 GIGS HDD, transmeta(tm) Crueso(tm) Processor TM5800 (painfully slow)
Puppy OS:
lupu-520
Thank you CatDude, once again. You are the best.
Thank you rjbrewer for getting me out of the error 15 hang up.
Edit: Update - Comparison of FULL and FRUGAL Installs on the Fujitsu Lifebook Pseries 256 RAM, 20 GIGS HDD, transmeta(tm) Crueso(tm) Processor TM5800
The *frugal* install grinds along at a miserable pace.
The *full* install moves much quicker. The *full* install doesn't exactly blaze around the machine but it definitely runs quicker than the *frugal*.
*Opera-10.63-Lucid* browser works best with lupu-520 in this situation. Opera appears to be a quick, clean browser, nice!
I am so glad I was shown how to install both the *frugal* and the *full* on the same machine giving me the opportunity to compare the two installs.
This is most helpful for further installs.
Edit: *Full* Install is not without it's perils. See discussion concerning effects on *full* install when *uninstalling* applications:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57010
Note rjbrewer's posts.
Successful Install
My error was in not *saving* the changed *menu.lst* when using the *Geany* text editor provided during the *Grub bootloader configuration*.
Note to readers just stepping into this thread: please read the special circumstances of the disc used to create this install. See my post of Thu 30 Jun 2011, 02:56
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 18556fece4
After I recouped from the error 15 page:
I followed exactly CatDude's suggestion on page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... start=195.
(I did not need to repeat Step 2 or Step 3 as they had stayed in place even after a 'cold cut' of the machine.)
FYI - Here is the machine and Puppy OS configuration:
Machine:
Fujitsu Lifebook Pseries 256 RAM, 20 GIGS HDD, transmeta(tm) Crueso(tm) Processor TM5800 (painfully slow)
Puppy OS:
lupu-520
Thank you CatDude, once again. You are the best.
Thank you rjbrewer for getting me out of the error 15 hang up.
Edit: Update - Comparison of FULL and FRUGAL Installs on the Fujitsu Lifebook Pseries 256 RAM, 20 GIGS HDD, transmeta(tm) Crueso(tm) Processor TM5800
The *frugal* install grinds along at a miserable pace.
The *full* install moves much quicker. The *full* install doesn't exactly blaze around the machine but it definitely runs quicker than the *frugal*.
*Opera-10.63-Lucid* browser works best with lupu-520 in this situation. Opera appears to be a quick, clean browser, nice!
I am so glad I was shown how to install both the *frugal* and the *full* on the same machine giving me the opportunity to compare the two installs.
This is most helpful for further installs.
Edit: *Full* Install is not without it's perils. See discussion concerning effects on *full* install when *uninstalling* applications:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57010
Note rjbrewer's posts.
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Hello carldhickman
Welcome to the kennels
we may then be able to help you with that too.
CatDude
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Welcome to the kennels
Glad you found it useful mate.carldhickman wrote:Great post...solved all my problems and sorted out all the different questions i had
Could you post the contents of your menu.lst file,carldhickman wrote:...just need to get the GRUB to auto-boot to puppy now
we may then be able to help you with that too.
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Hiya...thanks...Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 FULL install on Thinkpad T43 (now it's back from the dead thanks...) GRUB menu:
# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sat Aug 4 14:37:53 2012
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sda.24058'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.sda.24058 of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 0
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)
Sits there at boot up waiting for me to select...like it to boot automatically.
Puppy on this laptop, Ubuntu on other laptop...is this the end for Windows...50:50 split in OS...
# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sat Aug 4 14:37:53 2012
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sda.24058'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.sda.24058 of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 0
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)
Sits there at boot up waiting for me to select...like it to boot automatically.
Puppy on this laptop, Ubuntu on other laptop...is this the end for Windows...50:50 split in OS...
Hello carldhickman
Change your "global section"
from this:
to this:
That should do it.
CatDude
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Change your "global section"
from this:
Code: Select all
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 0
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
Code: Select all
# Start GRUB global section
timeout 0
default 0
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
CatDude
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First wondering if iso was md5sum checked.rcracerguy wrote:I'm stuck. I've gone through the whole first page. Now when I boot and load the hard drive it loads and stops at a # and that's it. I mean I boot to the grub screen then hit enter on the linux drive and it load through some things and stop with a #
Next would be has the hard drive ever ran anything and is not broken.
Then try Slitaz or some other puppy to make sure hard drive is ok.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootParametersPuppy
...having NOT read the entire thread...
What's the text right above the # ?
If it says something about "Exited from X" -- that means that Puppy can't understand, at least initially, what graphics hardware you've got. A remarkably common problem.
If what I describe is the case -- at the # type xorgwizard and press [Enter]. That will take you through the video setup wizard, at the end of which you should have a working desktop.
A protip -- on newer Pups (such as Tahr and Slacko) -- skip the "Test X" by pressing [Esc] when you see that screen, and at the new # prompt, type xwin [Enter] -- either it works or it doesn't, there's not much need for a test. Besides, in my experience that 'test' just makes everything go screwballs anyways.
What's the text right above the # ?
If it says something about "Exited from X" -- that means that Puppy can't understand, at least initially, what graphics hardware you've got. A remarkably common problem.
If what I describe is the case -- at the # type xorgwizard and press [Enter]. That will take you through the video setup wizard, at the end of which you should have a working desktop.
A protip -- on newer Pups (such as Tahr and Slacko) -- skip the "Test X" by pressing [Esc] when you see that screen, and at the new # prompt, type xwin [Enter] -- either it works or it doesn't, there's not much need for a test. Besides, in my experience that 'test' just makes everything go screwballs anyways.
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Do you have a savefile/savefolder, or is this an initial install?
If you have a savefile/folder and it's working -- no.
If you don't -- set one up, and then you won't have to do that again unless it breaks. My understanding is that savefiles break more than savefolders. (Don't quote me on that -- I haven't used the savefolder option much, yet. It's quite new.)
If you have a savefile/folder and it's working -- no.
If you don't -- set one up, and then you won't have to do that again unless it breaks. My understanding is that savefiles break more than savefolders. (Don't quote me on that -- I haven't used the savefolder option much, yet. It's quite new.)