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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 09:23    Post_subject:  

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We had an informal admin meeting yesterday using Skype
HairyWill made a vey good point:

Translators and editors have to be protected - from themselves . . . it ensures that they avoid the embarrassment of deleting work or otherwise experimenting too enthusiastically.

Tom and Hairy are therefore in the process of invoking your participation . . .
Tom is available on Skype (as I believe you are - or are you on Gizmo - that is it - they are both on Gizmo too)
Both Tom and Hairy are very amenable if you wish to contact them with any questions

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Billwho?


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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 10:34    Post_subject:  

Hi All
It seems that there are now plenty of translators and editors available for the Puppy 4 manual. But as I have been proof-reading the earlier English manuals for Oli I will keep poking around in them if nobody minds. If you add any new chapters to the earlier manuals send me a PM and I will run a second eye over them for you. Likewise if for some reason you would like me to have a look at the latest manual just send me a PM.

@Will. I do still have editor access don't I? (Haven't had to change much lately Smile )

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 10:57    Post_subject:  

@puppyluvr
I just logged in as an ordinary user and was able to view the manual fine.
I wonder if Tom screwed down the translator permissions a bit too tight yesterday. I've had a quick look and I can't see anything obvious.

@billwho
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 11:42    Post_subject:  

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:06    Post_subject:  

@puppyluvr: I'm pretty sure that's a cache problem. Try hard-refreshing with CTRL+F5 maybe, or clearing your browsers cache.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:53    Post_subject:  

@Tombh,
Cleared browser cache. now i can view the manual and remain logged in, however the edit function seems to be missing. I have View / Review but no edit..

@thanks for the ctrl/F5 trick!!!
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 13:11    Post_subject:  

Hello everyone:

Here is a suggestion (from a new user perspective) that for reasons I am not aware of, may not be possible to put in place - regarding the ongoing maintenance of the manual:

It seems to me (that if many people will be working on maintaining it) that it would be wise for only one person to move (and review) the final edit (from the place where it is edited) to its final destination. This will protect the original copy from being accidentally damaged.

I am suggesting that the manual be developed in a different work area.

There are some very useful tools that allow a group of people to work together on projects, to easily make rollbacks, to do diffs, to compare with what has been written before.

One such (very simple) tool is.

http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl Likely there are many similar ones; there may even be a tool in the existing Wiki, where this can be accomplished.

David
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 13:43    Post_subject:  

@puppyluvr: just havin me dinner, so didn't have much time to check thwat out, but made one little change. Does it work now?
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 14:42    Post_subject:  Re: Reporting for duty
Sub_title: Maintenance of the English Puppy manual
 

Thank you HairyWill, I believe you are right to act with caution, it is after all just common sense. In time I am sure I will earn everyones trust. Wink

Thank you for the new status, now I just need to learn the ropes and were in business.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 16:00    Post_subject:  

Very Happy Hello Tombh,

Now I can edit the title of a page, but not the body!!!! Only the title is highlighted for editing!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 17:50    Post_subject:  

@puppyluvr: I can't simulate that problem you're describing Sad Maybe it's the particular page you're trying to edit? It'd be good if we could chat about this on skype.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 20:03    Post_subject:  

Very Happy Tom,
No, tried several pages, problem remains consistant, Only the title is open for editing..
Will watch for you on gizmo..


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Adjective

consistant
Common misspelling of consistent.

Wiktionary

First the Smileys, now the Spelling. Will this count on the Final Exam??
After all, I IS AN OKIE Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
I assure you I will run a spellckecker on any manual edits.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 21:24    Post_subject:  

...counting the spelling errors in this thread. Scary.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 22:44    Post_subject:  

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I just need to learn the ropes


Editing, proofreading, correcting, formatting manuals.
Updating to 4.01 (preparing now by reading Barrys Blog) and keeping up to date is a genuine service to Puppy.
So more editors, translators always welcome Smile

We welcome spurts of energy but consistent efforts
as Oli has demonstrated provide the best results.

It is important to remember that the developers are
our elite team. They create and tweak Puppy
but so many other contributions are possible . . .

. . . advising noobs, which many of us still feel we are in so many areas . . . creating manuals, developing he new website, wiki, manual etc.

A good example is Eric Caneri
Set up a server for Puppy files.
Did not know how to run a server
but did and learned
Now is being supported by Pritish, Tom and others.

Ignorance or inability is transformed by effort.
Who knew that Rolling Eyes

Thanks guys. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jun 2008, 01:38    Post_subject:  

@puppyluvr -
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I agree Crafty, do you use Gizmo??? A great way for us all to "chat together"


Well as I'm on dialup - I'm not sure whether "gizmo" or "skype" are viable options - I've always believed that one needed a broadband connection to use these..?

At the moment - for me to talk to you guys will have to be through these forums - my apologies for any inconveniences..!

crafty.
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