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#16 Post by HairyWill »

The support url can be a forum thread it doesn't need to be an email or particular website. In fact a thread or wiki page is good because it allows people to read about already know problems and solutions and it allows other knowledgeable people to contribute .

The crucial point is that the producer/publisher of any software should include with that software, or very close to it a mechanism by which they can be identified and have problems reported to them. They should be happy to consider themselves the first point of contact in reporting problems. This has a two way effect as it builds the reputation of that person as someone that provides quality software.

Software SHOULD NOT BE ANONYMOUS otherwise we are making it easy for the producers of malware.

If someone complains that your 4.00 pet doesn't work on 2.14 there is nothing wrong with saying "sorry I can't help, you should install 4.00".
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#17 Post by ttuuxxx »

yes but what about K.I.S.S = keep it simple silly. Or if its not broken, why complicate it :) lol I just like the old method, It hasn't been abused and all this talk about malware "knock on wood"
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#18 Post by tombh »

Okay, another version to consider. Apart from the extra Creative Commons stuff, changes are italicized.

Official Puppy
Although every effort is made by Barry Kauler, the creator of Puppy Linux, to ensure that these official releases are stable and nice to your computer, no warranty of merchantability can be given. Please read his disclaimer (at the bottom of the linked-to page) before using Puppy Linux.

Puplets
Disclaimer: Please be aware that Puplets are not official releases and although Barry Kauler, the creator of Puppy Linux, does encourage them, neither he, nor the Puplet authors, cannot accept responsibility for any misfortune that may result from their use and are offered without warranty of merchantability. There are no restrictions towards those wishing to both create a Puplet and advertise its existence on this website. Therefore you are advised that use of Puppy is entirely at your own risk.

Pets
Disclaimer: Please be aware that the majority of additional software for Puppy, otherwise known as 'Pets', linked to from this site are not 'official' and although Barry Kauler, the creator of Puppy Linux, does encouraged them, neither he, nor the Pet's authors, cannot accept responsibility for any misfortune that may result from their use and are offered without warranty of merchantability. However, all Pets that come under the 'pet-packages' category are released by Barry Kauler and come under his disclaimer which can be accessed from his website. The administrators of servers hosting additional Puppy software do actively strive to ensure the authenticity and reliability of community contributions but ultimately they cannot make any guarentees. Therefore you are advised to use the Pets available through this site at your own risk.

Website and Community (this will be under the "terms and conditions" link which is at the bottom of *every* page)
This website is maintained and financed by volunteers, most information is publicly editable and so can be changed at any time without warning. No liability can be accepted for the accuracy, quality nor suitability of any of its content. Any content found to be unsuitable may be removed without warning. Unless otherwise stated this website's content is published, and therefore any content that you publish through it as a registered user, comes under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License;

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* to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
* to Remix — to adapt the work

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* Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

* Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
* Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.
* For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work. The best way to do this is with a link to this web page.
* Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
* Nothing in this license impairs or restricts the author's moral rights.

The full Creative Commons License is here.
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#19 Post by raffy »

Thanks for attending to these matters, Tom.

First a minor edit: when "nor" is used, it is good practice to precede the first subject with "Neither". So it will read like "Neither Barry Kauler nor the Puplet authors should accept responsibility..."

Else simply drop the "n" from "nor", as in ".. he, or the Puplet authors, cannot accept responsibility..."

Under Website and Community, perhaps the following underlined portion can be deleted: "Unless otherwise stated Puppy's code is released under the terms of the GNU GPL and the Creative Commons..." and substituted with "the website contents are published under", so it will read: "Unless otherwise stated the website contents are published under the Creative Commons..."

And, perhaps, the CC terms can end at "Attribution". It is a community website, so I guess there will be problems implementing the other terms. Although, individual authors can choose to post their own terms (?).

Thanks again for your efforts, Tom.
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Okay I've updated my previous post to include "neither" along with the first subject of sentences containing "nor". I've also edited the "Website and Community" bit to remove the stuff about Puppy's code and GPL (Barry's disclaimers can deal with that I guess). I've also added that any work published by users will come under this CC license.

@alienjeff: What do you reckon to the way the CC license is included? Therefore that brief description appended on the end of the "Website and Community" section with a link to the full terms at the end? Remember that that bit will come under the bit of the website which is currently linked to right at the bottom as "Terms and Conditions" but I think I will change it to "Disclaimer". Perhaps there should be a sticky bit of text *right* at the bottom below everything else that appears on every saying something like, "Published under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License"?
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#21 Post by tombh »

Okay, I think it's ready then, I'll get it into the site within the next few days.
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#22 Post by tombh »

Okay, done. Check ou the links to see what's been added...

Official Puppy

Puplets

Pets (Search Page too)

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#23 Post by WhoDo »

Great work, Tom! Thank you for your efforts, and the efforts of those who contributed ideas, in getting the Disclaimer issue settled and activated. It is much appreciated.

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#24 Post by tombh »

no worries mate :)
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