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BarryK · Posted: Tue 05 Aug 2008, 21:32 Post_subject: 4.1 alpha 2.6.25.14 crash test

This is a build, post-4.1-alpha5, with 2.6.25.14 kernel, some limited functionality (missing 3rd party drivers) so only for those who reported that earlier 4.1's crashed. Kindly give this one a spin and let me know if it crashes. My blog announcement:

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00276

puppyluvr · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 01:24 Post_subject:

Hello Barry,
Testing in VBox on Dingo, till I can burn it, but I couldnt kill it yet.
Tested at 256mb, runs like 'scalded monkey", everything worked so far. Will test wireless, ect... tomorrow as is midnight here, But Surfed, Chatted, Painted, and rocked out to a CD...LOL

If this is supposed to be a "Crash test", so far I must be the "Crash Test Dummy"!! Very Happy

Is there anything I should try? Ive been on it all night, and it runs great. Tomorrow, when I run it natively, I will install a bunch of stuff, and see how it does...

P.S. Is that, by any chance, you on the Bike????

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9856 Location: SwedenEurope

He has already told us it is not him at the bike. Smile

Lobster · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 07:16 Post_subject:

eh . . . posted this in the wrong place so here it is again

mouse locked - within 5 seconds
and keyboard within same time Confused

One strange result:
I rebooted from Puppy 4 (used 'puppy pfix=ram' of course)
and the keyboard actually froze at the 'select keyboard stage'

I turned the machine off and waited 20 seconds
and it was OK again and I got to the Puppy 'cyclist' screen
then the mouse and keyboard froze as reported

I would remind you that this lock up was experienced with
Ubuntu Hardy Heron
Is it now confirmed as a Linux kernel problem?

Sorry it is not better news Confused

BarryK · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 08:32 Post_subject:

Lobster,
I would like to know some more about the hardware in your PC-that-locks-up. Can you open a terminal and run this:

# scanpci > /tmp/scanpci.log
# gzip /tmp/scanpci.log

then post /tmp/scanpci.log.gz here.

perhaps there is something mentioned somewhere on the internet about the problem with your hardware and recent kernels.

Lobster · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 10:13 Post_subject:

File enclosed
It could be that graphics card . . . sadly no built in or spare to compare . . .

dogone · Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Arizona, USA

Lobster,
How about a copy of your Hardinfo report as well, please.

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4682 Location: GB

Lob: at least four of those items have had reported issues, including with 'doze. Most of the KT133 ones had been cleared by KT266, but not all. Although I use the MX400 for most of my testing it does have documented issues - try a PCI card for diagnosis porpoises. The Rhine NIC won't work well with Puppy under all circumstances, but I've not been able to quantify this yet - stick to RTL. As I always recommend, swap your HW (incl. board) one item at a time until you chase down the rogue element. Let me know if you need an old video card.

Lobster · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 15:39 Post_subject:

Hardinfo report
enclosed . . .
. . . inside leg measurement to follow . . .
Thanks guys

Smile

capoverde · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 15:56 Post_subject:

Tested 4.1 alpha 2.6.25.14 today, on the same machine that froze after about five minutes with 4.1Alpha5-IDE-kernel. I expected the mouse to freeze every second, but it did'nt: after half an hour I was still happily browsing, and decided to post my result to the forum - which was impossible at that moment, probably for server overload.
Now it's back to normal, I post this with the "crash test" alpha. Will test it on other machines as soon as possible.

puppyluvr · Posted: Wed 06 Aug 2008, 23:04 Post_subject:

Barry,
Will the standard devx_400 work with this???( Im guessing not)

Lobster · Posted: Thu 07 Aug 2008, 01:19 Post_subject:

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4682 Location: GB

Uh! Can't be much doubt that it's a video issue here. You can't be sure of running an old MX400 at x8 and get away with it every time! Try setting the BIOS back to 2x?! Doesn't that board have a 3V AGP slot (can't find the manual file right now)? Your graphics card may be dual voltage compliant, but.... And, I wouldn't be trying to run at such a high resolution - start with 800x600 in VESA! It's unfair to test alphas at top-end settings as a first trial - gradually work up until something breaks! Hopefully, Barry is still setting default video at 640x480 so that everyone can make their first inspections on old 14" monitors?!
Got a nice old Rage Pro 2x here which is reliable for testing, does a kind-of 3D and was built before ATI got screwed up and taken over - any use?
Quicker to resend me your address by PM.

veronicathecow · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 529

Hi Barry. Stops at loading kernel Frugal with a intel d201gly2 MB and sata drives with frugal install. Many thanks
Tony

andre1 · Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

@Lobster:
There have been reports of problems with some of Nvidia's gpu's (both discrete and integrated). I had the same issue on Ubuntu 8.04, but it's gone after updating the firmware on my Dell D630.
So try upgrading firmware on your mainboard + graphic card, or/and try to set your bios settings to more conservative settings as proposed earlier.