How to add PHP to Hiawatha server?

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*sigh* Help Please!

#91 Post by e_mattis »

Hi all,

As most of us noobs do :roll: , I have spent the better part of a week (6 days actually) searching these forums for any information or a simple "how-to" on getting PHP to work. I have hiawatha running (was simple enough once I found out it was already there, just waiting to be used) and it renders html flawlessly.

I have found some things, LAMP for one, but it does not register in any accessible means that I can find. For the most part, the information I find is either (1) Broken links and/or information outdated by a year or more and two or three versions of puppy behind :x or (2) simply too complicated for a noob such as I to understand and/or just does not seem to function. http://localhost/index.php or http://127.0.0.1/index.php renders only the coded page (i.e. the actual script as it would in an editor), not the page itself.

:? At this point I'm not even sure if my attempts are working or not. :? There may be a special directory that the php files need to go? a setting that is turned off that simply needs to be turned on? After installing LAMP, i noticed that no rc.http files were created in /etc/init.d, /etc/hiawatha or any other directory . I assume, therefore, that the pet install - though prompted as complete - did not take.

I am attempting this on two machines - one using Lucid 5.28 and the other using Precise 5.4.3. Both are frugals on an AMD duron with 775 MB ram and 80 GB HDD. both PSF are set at about 30 GB (yea, it took a while) so space should be no issue.

I am thinking about trying the xampp approach once I remove all the LAMP and stuff. Basically, all I need is to be able to run a PHP program on one machine - no need at this point to publish it to the web, just host it on the one machine.

I am new-ish to Puppy and still learning, but have some experience with web servers (though very limited). It seems to me there should be an easy, step-by-step process in which to establish a working php server. especially since the server part is already there. Maybe a simple addition - put it in, turn it on, it works kinda thing?


If someone would be so kind as to provide some insight and/or point me to the most simplest and easly accomplished route, I would be very grateful :D . Thanks so much!

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Re: *sigh* Help Please!

#92 Post by GustavoYz »

e_mattis wrote:...If someone would be so kind as to provide some insight and/or point me to the most simplest and easly accomplished route...
XAMPP is the easiest way: has the whole environment needed to run php (web-server, db engine, mail server and backend, all ready to run) and is a simple "extract somewhere and run it" application.

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thanks!

#93 Post by e_mattis »

Thanks GustavoYz.

I d/l it and it went in simple and easy! The instructions are well laid out also - even a dummy like me couldn't screw it up too bad :lol:

Would have liked to use Hiawatha, but at least it's up and running.

Thanks again!

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mysql in Exprimo?

#94 Post by edoc »

I need mysql for a weather-related app.

There's tons of discussion about LAMP, Hiawatha, XAMPP, etc.

I see no reference to usage with Exprimo.

Is there a reason not to use these with Exprimo (5x15 is current)?

This is on an old Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 so resources are limited.
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#95 Post by e_mattis »

edoc,

don't know if you have Exprimo running on the Pana yet, but other than limitations of the hardware, and not knowing much about all this in general, I would think you should have little to no problems.

XAMPP would probably be your best bet - it is really quite simple. Make a back-up and try it ( as I usually do), and good luck! would be interesting to see how it goes for you.

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#96 Post by edoc »

Yes, Exprimo works fine on two netbooks and four laptops that I manage. It is a solid distro.

I will acquire the latest XAMPP and try it.

It seems contrary to Puppy philosophy to use such a bloated app but I have so many projects on hold here due to a missing Linux-link of one sort or another it would be good to finally find some solutions.

I will give it a try and report back.

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It seems contrary to Puppy philosophy to use such a bloated app but I have so many projects on hold here due to a missing Linux-link of one sort or another it would be good to finally find some solutions.
I think XAMPP is one of those cases where doesn't matter much if tiny: I'm willing to spend ~300MB in a web-server installation in benefit of time.
Besides, is possible to place the main dir somewhere outside pupsave and link it to /opt.
If space is really a problem, there are ways of get a tinier web server running, but you may find some service/permissions/ownership issues that you will have to fix by yourself, one by one and if want it to be updated, prepare to recompile pretty much all the software involved (just read the previous pages of this topic).

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#98 Post by edoc »

Good points re. space (HDD space is no problem), and linking.

As for linking, would you use Link Relative from /opt to the actual location?

Which files in xampp would need to be so linked?

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#99 Post by NeroVance »

I remember running a Server Puplet a few years back, when I tried to run an imageboard, it was an interesting experience.

Wish I could find a good ISP that allows web servers in my area, I would love that.

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#100 Post by e_mattis »

@ GustavoYz
yea, the space thing does not compare to the ease of use with Xampp

@edoc
I simply put xampp in /opt, then the folder for the POS system in htdocs. It all hooked up well with little/no effort...OFF TOPIC....we getting hammered with stormd today edoc, hows the weather there in Ga?

@NeroVance
you can probably find an IP there that allows servers...if you have the right amount of money :) also, you can use some of the 'already runing' servers to 'fake' a server at relatively low cost. Try http://emagez.duoservers.com/ if you need one.

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#101 Post by edoc »

Having lived in lightning & tornado alley in Florida for 10 years we were cautious about choosing a location in Georgia.

I researched the historic weather patterns and discovered that SE-Georgia tends to be pretty quiet.

There is a tornado watch until 1AM which includes Bulloch County but those are usually precautionary vs probable ... and besides, we are even in the SE-corner of the County!
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#102 Post by GustavoYz »

edoc wrote:Good points re. space (HDD space is no problem), and linking.

As for linking, would you use Link Relative from /opt to the actual location?

Which files in xampp would need to be so linked?

Thanks!
I'd extract it to /mnt/home, or somewhere outside pupfile, and link it "soft way" with this:

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ln -s /mnt/home/lampp /opt/
I think it was a pet package made like two years ago for just this part.

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#103 Post by edoc »

OK ... up to the link point ...

So it's LAMPP and not XAMPP that is linked?
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#104 Post by GustavoYz »

edoc wrote:OK ... up to the link point ...

So it's LAMPP and not XAMPP that is linked?
I mean the main folder. Once you extract the big file, all goes to a new directory called 'lampp': L is for "Linux" (A = Apache, M = MySQL, P = php and Perl). Do not extract it into a NTFS or FAT* partition, MySQL will fail!
Thats the one you want on /opt. See here, some info about paths.

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#105 Post by edoc »

OK ...

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/opt/lampp/lampp start
works.

It says, among other things
"XAMPP: Starting MySql"
But when I try to run

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"mysql - u root -p"
it says
"mysql: command not found"
What am I missing, please? :roll:
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#106 Post by e_mattis »

hey edoc,

XAMPP has MySqlAdmin pre-installed. :D try going to 'http://localhost'. There you can read more about xampp and access MySqlAdmin.

One thing you have to do before you can access MySqlAdmin (read in the localhost page) is to run '/opt/lampp/lampp security'. This sets passwords for the server, etc. Once this is done, you can get to admin and the databases.

Hope it helps! :)

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#107 Post by edoc »

e_mattis wrote:run '/opt/lampp/lampp security'. This sets passwords for the server, etc. Once this is done, you can get to admin and the databases.
Done, thanks!
XAMPP has MySqlAdmin pre-installed. :D try going to 'http://localhost'. There you can read more about xampp and access MySqlAdmin. E
I am in there now. Looks good EXCEPT ...

STATUS says MySQL is DEACTIVATED

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/opt/lampp/lampp start
says it is "already running"
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#108 Post by edoc »

This is apparently not an entirely unique problem.

I found this discussion - though it is written for a Microsoft version of windows version:
http://trebleclick.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... d-fix.html

Between the original post and the following posts I'm not sure where to start ...
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#109 Post by e_mattis »

Edoc,

I didn't have that problem on the Lucid 5.2.8 - what puppy did you say you are running?

Anyway, I would stop lampp (/opt/lampp/lampp stop). Reboot the system, then run '/opt/lampp/lampp security', then restart lampp.

:!: NOTE - found this out the hard way - make sure you stop lampp before you turn off or re-boot the computer. does nasty things along the way and you will loose the MySql eventually. :!:

if this fails, uninstall xampp, reboot, re-install xampp, do security before starting xamp, and see what that does.

let me know how it turns out. Maybe someone else can do you better if this doesn't fix it.

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#110 Post by edoc »

Exprimo version 5x15

I stopped lampp.

I rebooted.

I ran security (left passwords as I had previously changed them)

I restarted lampp.

Note: Among other messages XAMPP says it was starting MySQL.

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mysql -u root -p
still returns
"command not found"
error.

XAMPP for Linux still shows MySQL Database DEACTIVATED

I have to run a couple of errands - will uninstall and reinstall a bit later.

Little is ever simple ... sigh.

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