4.2 Meeting - Here

[WhoDo]

Hi WhoDo If you go to this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 561#262561
I'll be supporting Xarchiver, So far its been updated at that thread with some mime types and also add Sir Duncan's unrar and 7zip extensions with the Mime's included with those you can make and extract 7zip and Rar files below is an image of the types you can make

Yep. I too wanted an archive manager that didn't take a lifetime to open some file types. I'll keep my eye on your progress throughout the 4.2 development cycle to be sure I've got the latest inclusions.

Cheers

[ttuuxxx]

is Gxine still buggy in 4.12 or 4.2, I'm using 4.1 at the present and it crashes really easy compared to 4.0 was there an upgrade or shall I say downgrade?
Here's an example that I posted in the Living water thread
If you leave a space at the end of a url stream by accident, it freezes then you have to kill it, but it stays running so then you have to run Pprocess and manually kill it
try this link and include a space at the end of the url before hitting enter for 4.12 users.

rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra

also I had it crash when trying to resize a movie video, and also it wouldn't play some normal formats, Gxine usually has some small issues but these are new ones for me, also maybe it just needs to be recompiled, I can't do it because I'm running live, When I compile live 90% of the apps work, but GXxine is one that I doesn't.
Any takers? I'll test anything released.
ttuuxxx

[Max Headroom]

I haven't Scene any ETA announced on the Net yet...
And sum o' the New Goodies Sound Yum
Altho I've Always been of the Opinion that Barrys' once stated 6 - 8 Week Release Cycle seemed Rushed / Hectic & that Doubling it would have been Prudent, so anyway We got Spoilt! Also if I might make a Request 2 include an Old Wind0'$ Favorite EMule which is Available as amule-2.1.3.tar.gz or @ least as a pet Package since my Compiling Skills 'R' Wanting

[amigo]

"club the libraries/components/plugins from Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey together" I tried doing this a couple of years ago, but it is really a wasted effort. The fact that you can't do this is the best good reason for simply having seamonkey as the default. The whole suite installs only slightly larger than any one of its' components. In other words, installing firefox, thunderbird and nvu, for example will cost three times as much space as installing seamonkey. While what you suggest is possible to small degree, it would take a very long time and a good deal of mozilla expertise to perfect such an installation.

[ttuuxxx]

"club the libraries/components/plugins from Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey together" I tried doing this a couple of years ago, but it is really a wasted effort. The fact that you can't do this is the best good reason for simply having seamonkey as the default. The whole suite installs only slightly larger than any one of its' components. In other words, installing firefox, thunderbird and nvu, for example will cost three times as much space as installing seamonkey. While what you suggest is possible to small degree, it would take a very long time and a good deal of mozilla expertise to perfect such an installation.

Hi amigo, yes by some degree your right if you use Thunderbird and nvu, But lets not forget the difference between your 2 choices, they are light-years ahead of Seamonkeys suite, Thats like comparing siag office and openoffice and saying they are equal. A true comparison would be mozilla suite at 10.5MB pet, well the last suite barry did was 10mb and that is 3 updates behind and then he did the beta2 and thats at 11mb so I went half way:) If you install it with the default installer its 14mb for the latest series 1.14
Seamonkey Suite->>10.5MB give or take
Firefox 3.0.5 >> 8.5MB <-- I just compiled it that small
+Xinha plugin wysiwyg 325kb https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1449
+Simple Mail 199kb https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5593
total 9.024MB
a savings of 1.476MB or 1.5MB not bad
And that suite is just as good as the Seamonkey Suite and looks way better to the eye.
But lets not forget the issues at hand, there is a reason why Seamonkey hasn't been updated, Its not playing nice with puppy, I've been trying to compile it for days now, even Firefox has issues, but less issues than Seamonkey, I would ask you to lend a hand but your probably using Series 3.0 or a different Slackware model?
I haven't given up on Seamonkey, I spent around 6hrs today trying to get it to work, even with Barry's last configs for it.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

I haven't Scene any ETA announced on the Net yet...
And sum o' the New Goodies Sound Yum
Altho I've Always been of the Opinion that Barrys' once stated 6 - 8 Week Release Cycle seemed Rushed / Hectic & that Doubling it would have been Prudent, so anyway We got Spoilt! Also if I might make a Request 2 include an Old Wind0'$ Favorite EMule which is Available as amule-2.1.3.tar.gz or @ least as a pet Package since my Compiling Skills 'R' Wanting

Amule package is on the forum, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=14432
its too big because it uses wxgtk, In the future maybe not , I'll have a look at VLC again with wxgtk, I've found its a bit better than Gxine in just about every way other than size, theres around 3.5 MB difference, Nex time I'll try to get it much smaller, the funny thing about VLC you can use it without wxgtk, but you can use the menus, they won't work, but if you right click on a application and select open with VLC it still plays
Someone needs to make a Gtk2 front-end for VLC. Then it would be around 4MB. Boy am I off-topic
ttuuxxx

[Lobster]

Part of 4.2 is the online facilities page (sorry forget name) - some more potentials here:
http://www.topwebbased.com/

[Max Headroom]

Warren 4.2, When?

[Pizzasgood]

He said he wants to have an alpha out by the 25th. I don't know about the final. I would expect sometime at least halfway through February.

[Max Headroom]

Thanx PizzasGood

[DaveS]

I have been 'lurking' the various 4.2 threads since the beginning. This looks a very cool Puppy indeed

[ttuuxxx]

I've been working on the Browser issues, and well I've come to the a conclusion that Cairo, Pango, Pixman should all be updated. But don't get your compiler out so quickly. If you update for example Pixman, you will have no desktop icons, Rox won't work, Xarchive, etc,etc won't work and your stuck in the mud without a wench. (luckily I backup my pupsave)
Cairo is outdated we are using 1.5 and FF3 requires 1.6 sure I changed the config in the source and it compiles but with a lot of errors. This could be the factor for the slowness in FF with images+Scripts in series 3 also.
Any Ideas guys?


Puppy should get a bit of tuning also. We have dated devx files that usually need upgrading when compiling. Shouldn't puppy + Devx compile out of the box? I'm not talking Glibc, more like autonfig and why don't we have Git in the compiler or as a package in the repo? 3.8MB http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 3-i386.pet
or should this wait until the alpha1 is released?

ttuuxxx

[aragon]

hi ttuuxxx,

i think with your devx-cooments you're absolutely right. we need some upgrades, git is a nice idea.

my proposal would be to also include gpaco http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34428

it's a great helper-tool (for me), as i often have problems with 'new2dir'

cheers
aragon

[ttuuxxx]

here's another example of the DevX being somewhat outdated, I went to compile libgcrypt and use the ./autogen.sh and this was the output
./autogen.sh: line 21: 6292 Broken pipe "$1" --version
**Error**: `autoconf' not installed or too old.
Version 2.60 or newer is required.
**Error**: `automake' not installed or too old.
Version 1.10 or newer is required.

Well to compile and change to the latest autogen and automake is easy enough. but that should be done, I'll compile them after I'm finished a few things
ttuuxxx

[amigo]

Many sources are picky about which version of automake and/or autoconf they use. With a little care you can have multiple version installed at the same time.
You might try running 'autoreconf -if' in the sources as that will some times work when auotgen.sh does not.

[ttuuxxx]

I compiled the latest Pidgin with SSL and Working MSN, would be good for the repo but not that default, due to the 3.8MB pet in size.
ttuuxxx

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 3-i386.pet
Also I compiled the automake and autoconfig download below, they are full dev+files for the compiler, I made them into tar.gz for easy extraction, no need as pets due to the fact that they need to be installed to the devx compiler
hope that helps a bit
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

here's a picture of Seamonkey 1.1.11 with the Mostly Crystal theme installed as default theme, I removed the original Seamonkey theme and replaced it saving space.
Then I hacked the code a bit and added a user quick launch bar, and added the home button, Then I added my 5 extra searches from FirePup , added a printer quick launch and this is what it looks like.
ttuuxxx

[WhoDo]

here's a picture of Seamonkey 1.1.11 with the Mostly Crystal theme installed as default theme, I removed the original Seamonkey theme and replaced it saving space.
Then I hacked the code a bit and added a user quick launch bar, and added the home button, Then I added my 5 extra searches from FirePup , added a printer quick launch and this is what it looks like.

Does this mean that Seamonkey-1.1.14 is a no show? Have you resolved the Insert key crash on your recompile of 1.1.11?

Here is a pic of my Seamonkey with Seafox theme, CuteMenus and Monkey Menus - the latter allows easy addition of functions to the main icon bar as shown, much like Firefox.

Firepup hasn't missed a beat either!

[ttuuxxx]

here's a picture of Seamonkey 1.1.11 with the Mostly Crystal theme installed as default theme, I removed the original Seamonkey theme and replaced it saving space.
Then I hacked the code a bit and added a user quick launch bar, and added the home button, Then I added my 5 extra searches from FirePup , added a printer quick launch and this is what it looks like.

Does this mean that Seamonkey-1.1.14 is a no show? Have you resolved the Insert key crash on your recompile of 1.1.11?

Here is a pic of my Seamonkey with Seafox theme, CuteMenus and Monkey Menus - the latter allows easy addition of functions to the main icon bar as shown, much like Firefox.

Firepup hasn't missed a beat either!

Naa I haven't given up on it, Just had a break,from it and was bored lol
Yours looks great also. The One I did came with tons of menu icons and actually was a bit on the large size due to all the icons in the theme.
ttuuxxx

[aragon]

attached find an updated intltool-package for devx.

cheers
aragon