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how to get Orinoco wireless to scan with WAG?
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peppyy


Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2005, 11:13    Post subject:  how to get Orinoco wireless to scan with WAG?  

Here is what I have, (Other than a really nasty cold at the moment). I have a couple laptops set up with these cards and antennas for travel, (My daughter is moving to California), and I want her to be able to connect from her car on the roundabout trip there.

I have no problems setting up the cards that require ndiswrapper to use wag and scan and connect but I cant seem to get my automatically recognized cards to do the same.

I have a couple Orinoco gold classic (and differently branded, same chipset) cards. Puppy treats these cards as a standard "wired" connection during boot and connects fine to my wireless router as eth0. I bring up a terminal and use iwconfig while we drive around and I an able to get the essid's and signal strength of networks. I can connect to the unincripted ones (that is all I need) by running the autodhcp in the regular eithernet wizzard but not with wag.

I know that I am missing something simple (Blame it on the foggy head cold) but there has to be a easy way to do this.

Thanks.

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keenerd

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 10:09    Post subject:  

Iwconfig can only give you the signal strength of the network you're currently connected to. Actual scanning is done through "iwlist INTERFACE scan".

Possible problem: This operation is not supported by your card/driver.
Try "iwlist eth0 scan" and see what happens.

Another possible problem: WAG isn't autodetecting your wireless interface. Does "eth0" appear in /proc/net/wireless? If not, you'll have to manually specify the interface in the wag-conf file.

What feedback does WAG give you?
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rarsa


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Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 12:17    Post subject:  

Last time I checked, orinoco drivers DID NOT support scanning.

I think that there are some patches to the driver to support scanning, I haven't tried.

Just google 'orinoco drivers scanning' and you will get some leads.
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peppyy


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Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 13:38    Post subject:  

proc/net/wireless reports

Code:
Inter-| sta-|   Quality        |   Discarded packets               | Missed | WE
 face | tus | link level noise |  nwid  crypt   frag  retry   misc | beacon | 16
  eth0: 0000   57.  224.  168.       0      0      0      0      0        0


And WAG reports ths following

Code:

wireless card not active
wireless card not responding
                                                           
no module loaded
dhcpcd running
wifi-beta installed

eth0 enabled
no IP assigned to eth0
access point aquired
no internet ping test

0 wireless network(s) detected
0 open network(s) detected

Connected to:
eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"home"  Nickname:"HERMES I"
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412GHz  Access Point: 00:E0:98:DE:D3:33 
          Encryption key:off
          Link Quality:54/92  Signal level:-34 dBm  Noise level:-88 dBm


But this is on an older version of puppy so I might have to try it on 1.0.5 and see if it is different.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 13:52    Post subject:  

You guys have made Puppy so easy to install things I have drawn a blank on how to install drivers lol.

Code:
wireless card active
wireless card responding
                                                           
no module loaded
dhcpcd running
wifi-beta not installed

eth0 enabled
wireless ip: 192.168.1.39
access point acquired
wireless gateway found
no internet ping test

no wireless networks detected
error when scanning

Connected to:
eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"home"  Nickname:"HERMES I"
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412GHz  Access Point: 00:E0:98:DE:D3:33 
          Encryption key:off
          Link Quality:58/92  Signal level:-36 dBm  Noise level:-94 dBm


It says that eth0 does not support scanning and I was guessing that was because it treats the card as a "wired" card. Perhaps I will try using ndiswrapper and the xp drivers from the website.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Nov 2005, 15:26    Post subject:  

No luck with the drivers for xp unless I am using the wrong file.
Code:
# ndiswrapper -l
Installed ndis drivers:
2802w   driver present
airplus driver present
bcmwl5  driver present
bcmwl5a driver present
gplus   driver present
mrv8k51 driver present
mrv8ka51        driver present
net8180 driver present
neta3ab driver present
netadm11        driver present
netdlwl driver present
ntpr11ab        driver present
rt2500  driver present
w22n51  driver present
w70n51  driver present
[b]wlluc48b        invalid driver![/b]


Is there a way to change the interface to wlan0 so that wag would recognize it that way? or am I beating a dead horse Laughing
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov 2005, 01:49    Post subject:  

Please read my previous post

NOT ALL DRIVERS SUPPORT SCANNING.
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peppyy


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2005, 00:56    Post subject:  

I am sorry. I didn't mean to make anyone angry Embarassed

I guess you can only use the scan in winows an that ain't gonna happen. I guess I am back to the linksys or networkeverywhere card and no external antenna. I was just being stubborn and hoping.

Thanks.

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rarsa


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2005, 01:21    Post subject:  

peppyy wrote:
I am sorry. I didn't mean to make anyone angry
No, I am sorry, I used it as emphasis not anger. I was in a hurry. I should have used bold.

Please accept my apologies if it was interpreted like angry shouting.

I just wanted to really call your attention to my previous post where I indicate that there seems to be a patched version of the drivers that supports scanning.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2005, 23:37    Post subject:  

Thanks, I have found several updated drivers for oronoco_cs.c but can't seem to get them to load. I only know how to do that with the eithernet wizard and load a custom driver.

It may well be that I need to update the firmware on the cards and of course that too is only available for a winows machine.

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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2005, 00:10    Post subject:  

My card uses the orinoco drivers, so I can try. What drivers are you trying? (a link to the download would be great).

I haven't tried because I only use wireless at home where I don't broadcast the essid.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2005, 01:27    Post subject:  

The original search took place on PupTop4 which isn't here at the moment Smile

I am pretty sure this was listings for the patch.

http://www.cs.umd.edu/~moustafa/morinoco/morinoco.html

An I'll be darned if I can find the actuall file again. Ahhhhhhhh, Here they are!

http://ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2005, 01:38    Post subject:  

I tried to compile the drivers, but I think I need the kernel module headers or something like that

Code:
/lib/modules/2.4.29/build: No such file or directory.
I'll investigate.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Nov 2005, 16:34    Post subject:  

Thanks, this is exciting Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2005, 11:58    Post subject:  

That was me by the way. To many PupTops to log in all the time.

I know that is no excuse Razz

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