Develpup 1.0 rc1

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polymath · #16 Post by **polymath** » Sat 15 Nov 2008, 17:09

Has anyone burned the ISO yet?

There's one quick bug in the upper tray but it has been fixed and is not major at all (just a missing icon). If you'd like to fix it open up ~/.jwmrc-tray and change the line that reads:

<TrayButton popup="FirePup Browser 0.02" icon="/usr/lib/firefox/icons/default.xpm">exec:firefox</TrayButton>

to read:

<TrayButton popup="FirePup Browser 0.4" icon="/usr/lib/FirePupv4/icons/default.xpm">exec:firefox</TrayButton>

Lobster · #17 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 06:55

The page you're accessing no longer exists or you mistyped the URL. (more...)

Not really possible to download
What is the size of the ISO?
Does it include Seamonkey as well as the cutdown Firefox?

Think about hosting at http://www.puppylinux.org/

polymath · #18 Post by **polymath** » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 14:13

Am i just delusional or does it seem like puppylinux.org can only host links to large files?

Also, if you input user and pass then you can get the ISO, the link works.

Otherwise go to puppyisos.org and get manually.

The ISO works for my download.

Keef · #19 Post by **Keef** » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 21:55

Successful download for me! Pity I'm not a programmer

Burned it to CD with Roxio on XP - lying git told me there was an error at 95%, but I ignored it and it booted fine on my work laptop.
I've also copied the necessaries to my CD-less PII 300 laptop (CF card in IDE adaptor) and it runs surprisingly well.
Didn't check the Firepup bug as not on the net at the time, but clicking on the MurgaLua icon causes a lock up. Ctrl Alt Backspace got me out of it.
Compiled the SVN version of JWM for the hell of it, and went without hitch.

polymath · #20 Post by **polymath** » Thu 20 Nov 2008, 11:28

Make sure that in your .jwmrc-tray the murgaLua icon is set to run the command "mlconsole"

BTW i made xorgwizard enable touchpad tapping.

#21 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 20 Nov 2008, 11:50

Lobster wrote:cutdown Firefox?

Hi Lobster

FirePup is not a cutdown version of firefox, well Its a optimized version for puppy, Its compiled for puppy and not just repackaged like most firefox versions for puppy, Then I updated the security, added a new theme, Installed browser speed increasements, Installed spell check, optimized the code, rebranded it, fix the fonts, added new icons to the menus, and a whole list of things, Thats why it runs so fast and I haven't yet had it crash on me, Plus full screen Youtube video works on JWM.
Thats why its a bit more than "cutdown" no chainsaw or sledge hammer here.

Also this "firePup" bug on here is just because he updated the version and forgot to update the menu, Its not a real "FirePup" bug,
ttuuxxx

polymath · #22 Post by **polymath** » Thu 20 Nov 2008, 22:28

That's the root of the error, sorry if anyone thought that i was blaming firepup for the bug, as the real error here was my lazyness.

Is anyone interested in a snapshot of my unleashed partition (tarred up and such)? I could upload to my badongo.com account if anyone want's it.

And no, there is no seamonkey on this puplet, the seamonkey folder in /usr/lib is just a symlink so that other apps will work. Besides, I favor firepup for it's speed and better (IMHO) UI.

puppyluvr · #23 Post by **puppyluvr** » Fri 21 Nov 2008, 12:17

Hello,
Would love to try your iso..
Am I missing something...
Every link I try is broken, or wants a username/password that IDK...
Where can I get it??? ( password or ISO)???
And, yes, Id love a snapshot of your unleashed partition....

polymath · #24 Post by **polymath** » Sun 23 Nov 2008, 00:01

@puppyluvr: the password can be found here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28930

puppyluvr · #25 Post by **puppyluvr** » Sun 23 Nov 2008, 00:49

Thanks,
Duh, shoulda figured that one out...
D/Ling now...
..Jay...

@Edit...D/L`d fine...booted fine...WOW!!!
I wasnt expecting such a complete Pup..
I like the development interface, but hey, put the Browser in there too.

Of course FirePup works great...
The "Desktop" scripts need icons, but I love the idea..I keep my "Desktop" in an icon/folder, which is similar..Less clutter..
In 800x600 Conkey blends with the logo...
Hmm, enough nit picking (for now LOL) till more testing..

AFAIK there are no other self-contained, on disc, development enviroments available...Only Puppy is even close, but requires a save and reboot to incorperate the devx module, and doesnt have the GUI IDE`s for fltk / python / ect...
This has stuff Ive never even seen!!
Goodie goodie...LOL...
Someone way smarter than me can get a lot of use from this..

Well, gotta go play with this...

Lobster · #26 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 23 Nov 2008, 09:26

Please alter your first post to include:
http://puppyisos.org/isos/2008-07-to-12 ... up-rc1.iso

User: puppy
Password: linux

make it as easy as possible for people to download and use
if you want feedback - you knew that right?

I wasnt expecting such a complete Pup..

This works much better than tmxxine DarkForce (also meant for programming)
The bootup screen (also used in macpup) is very good.
The iconbar link for MurgauLua was not working (you can acccess it from the menu)
The Web development menu was superflous and the help menu did not activate (help will still be there) this is because you have removed or are not using seamonkey

It is a good idea to have Gimp for icons etc and perhaps two browsers (Komposer and Firepup)

If you want to program in Java, Python, Lua, C, C++, then this is what you need.

Good job - I wish you success.
At long last we have a Puppy development puplet.

puppyluvr · #27 Post by **puppyluvr** » Tue 25 Nov 2008, 01:52

Hello,
Well, I added the full SDL to it and Pygame as well.
Edited ld.so.conf... Next is to get QT..and GTK+..
Now I can compile almost anything..
I may be "out of pocket" for a while...LOL

Rombus · #28 Post by **Rombus** » Tue 25 Nov 2008, 18:15

hey!

this is great!

i wanted a puplet for programmers, I'm a C programmer.

I've tried to run Code::Blocks but obtained the same result debuggin that i've obtained in mi own puppy linux.

Code::Blocks like freezes when try debuggin, and when you close the console runs normally.

i tryed with the dot pet, and with this ISO and with dot sfs but in all of them got the same error.

tryed to compile code::BLocks but couldent :S

does this ISO have the dot pet Code::Blocks version on it? or is a fresh compiled version?

does anyone know how to solve this problem?

this forum rocks

(sorry for my english :S)

polymath · #29 Post by **polymath** » Wed 26 Nov 2008, 17:38

@All:

Thanks for the feedback. I've fixed the ML problem, and though i experience the same problem with Code::Blocks, i tried building from source and it didn't fix the problem (the included is the .pet)

Kompozer works, and i'm going to add some more stuff (i'm just not sure what).

QEMU doesn't seem to work, the executable works but doesn't produce the actual screen, i'm pretty sure it's a SDL error. Puppylvr, does QEMU work with your SDL, and can i get a dotpet of it if it does? I tried building from source but that didn't seem to work for me either.

QT4 is included, BTW, and the next release will have GTK+

THe reason for such a long delay for the next version is because i'm moving the files from my laptop to my desktop because of filesystem space concerns.

When 4.2 comes out i'll move to that, unless you all think dingo will be better.

I've never done all that much web development so i'm not sure what to add, if any of you have more suggestions (i already have PHP and Kompozer) please post.

Lastly, did anyone notice touchpad tapping, i don't know why BarryK disabled this in puppy, but it works (AFAIK) with my hacked xorgwizard (I literally changed 4 lines of code)?

Me.

Rombus · #30 Post by **Rombus** » Thu 27 Nov 2008, 15:38

hey polymath!

it would be nice to add Dia, a useful diagram creator, such as data flow diagrams, entity relation diagrams, graphs etc.

it's really a shame that code::Blocks cant debug flawlessly, i even dream about having code::Blocks debugging well XD

puppyluvr · #31 Post by **puppyluvr** » Fri 28 Nov 2008, 16:05

polymath,
Loving it so far, Once I installed the rest of SDL and Pygame it will compile almost anything without errors!!
One sticky point however..
I like Firepup...I use it on several Puppys..
But on Develpup, it acted funny..Shutting down out of the blue..
When I try to restart it, I get the "XXX is already running", no matter if I killall it, kill it in processes, even restart X, same thing! Have to totally reboot to restart it..
So I installed Firefox 3.04 ...Even worse....Removed them all and tried FF 2.0.0.17...
Same thing!!
Switched to Opera 9.50.....
No Problems..(yet anyhow)...
So there must be a prob in the mozilla libs or something...
Thought you`d want to know...

Aitch · #32 Post by **Aitch** » Fri 28 Nov 2008, 16:28

Make sure that the project is compiled with the -g (debugging symbols) compiler option on, and the -s (strip symbols) option off. This ensures that the executable has debug symbols included.

Compiler optimization switches should be turned off, stripping symbols (-s) must be turned off.

Keep in mind that you may have to re-build your project as up-to-date object files might not be re-compiled with -g otherwise. Please be aware that in compilers other than GCC, -g and/or -s might be a different switch (-s might not ba available at all).

http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php?ti ... de::Blocks

maybe clues here, too

http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums ... _id=468206

Good stuff polymath, keep 'em coming

Aitch

polymath · #33 Post by **polymath** » Sat 29 Nov 2008, 01:19

@Aitch, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow.

@puppylvr, that's weird. I've never had that happen to me. Can you isolate the error to specific sites (like YouTube or Hotmail, those seem to be funny in puppy)? And can you test QEMU and see if it actually works or if it just hangs?

Anyone wish for me to change the browser to something else, or if all else fails, go back to seamonkey (personally i don't like seamonkey all that much). I really like firepup but if it's bugging then i'll either have to fix it or change, but i don't know how firepup works well enough to fix anything but a simple error.

Also, i'll update JDK to 6u10 later, just'll have to get around to that.

Develpup 1.0 will be out within 2 weeks. I hope nothing comes up that'll delay that, like last time i lost everything after a stupid mistake.

puppyluvr · #34 Post by **puppyluvr** » Sat 29 Nov 2008, 02:19

polymath,
Upon further investigation, I believe it is not a Develpup issue, but a 4.1.1 issue.
My wife has a 4.1.1 Frugal to test for me, and reports the same problem, not just with Firefox, (hers is 3.01), but with the Gimp as well..Sudden shutdown, same refusal to restart..
This leads me to think its GTK related...
On her machine, same Firefox, same Gimp, on Puppy 3.01, no issues..

As for Qemu, it starts via the console, but to be honest, having never used Qemu in Puppy, IDK where to go from there..Ive used it in Doze B4, so I know I need a script like the .bat file that launches it in Doze.
I`ll "Learn up" on it and let you know..
Unless you`ve got a "generic" launch script I can modify...
@Got a good link for instructions??
@EDIT..OK I D/L a Linux .img file and tried it but it hung, am looking for a Puppy .img
to try now...
@@EDIT / EDIT..LOL
Well, it works, in a sense.. I cant get an ISO to boot, and the image stops at "No Job Control for this machine" or some such stuff..
However. Qemu seems to be working, its just operator error..
Will keep working with it...

Aitch · #35 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 29 Nov 2008, 03:38

Jay, Qemu is Bruce B's speciality

maybe check here, 'qemu, Bruce B'

http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

Aitch

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