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davids45


Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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Location: Chatswood, NSW

PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2016, 21:33    Post subject: There's no weather today here too
Subject description: ... in between the Autumnal showers.
 

G'day Moat,

I have been widget weather forecastless as well, from yesterday I think.

This morning, I went as far as checking the original yahoo address in a browser but it was unresponsive. Definitely not a 'Good' Friday.

So I found yahoo weather for Chatswood on the yahoo.com.au site

https://weather.yahoo.com.au/local-forecast/nsw/chatswood

and being an optimist, copied that address over the original in the weather widget, but nothing resulted.

Is there another less troublesome weather agency that could be used for a detailed weather widget? The original basic weather widget is still OK but I miss the extra information and prognostication of the Forecast widget.

David S.
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Moat


Joined: 16 Jul 2013
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Location: Mid-mitten, USA

PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2016, 21:54    Post subject: Re: There's no weather today here too
Subject description: ... in between the Autumnal showers.
 

Hi David -

davids45 wrote:
Is there another less troublesome weather agency that could be used for a detailed weather widget?


I've been wondering the same thing myself. On my Windows machines, I run the desktop widget app Xwidgets, which AFAICT uses Accuweather.com for weather information. For me, it has reported faithfully for years without a hitch.

I do have to wonder how difficult it might be to modify our existing Pwidgets configs to work with a new information source. I'm guessing it will take some rather serious work... Confused

It seems no one can leave well enough alone these days. Mad

Ziggy, Mick... help! Smile Embarassed

Bob

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musher0


Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2016, 21:57    Post subject:  

Hi Moat.

I can confirm that vovchick's yweather is not responding properly today. I did get a
couple of forecasts during the day, forcing it with a restart of xwin. However after the
last forecast I got late this afternoon (Ottawa time), the app froze badly.

Maybe try a general weather site, like weather.com or accuweather.com until we really
know what's going on with yweather? Maybe it's just a glitch, or a database update.
(Since they carry weather data from everywhere in the world, that DB must be huge.)

BFN.

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Moat


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2016, 22:27    Post subject:  

Bonsoir, musher0 -

musher0 wrote:
However after the
last forecast I got late this afternoon (Ottawa time), the app froze badly.


Yup - it was right around that same time period (late this afternoon, Eastern time in Michigan) when I noticed the Pwidget failed in reporting, after working fine earlier. And then at that point, launching Yweather, it failed (and crashed a few minutes later) also.

The scary thing was the authorization error reported in the Pwidgets temp weather file - and in Googling that specific error, led me to the (very recent) Yahoo info linked to earlier. Doesn't look good. No specific mention there of rss feeds, though - which is where Pwidgets scripts snatch their weather info from. So who knows... it may indeed be a temporary glitch while Yahoo sorts out this authentication/secret crap.

But I'm not holding my breath. Grrr...

Thanks for the reports, fellas.

[edit] Looking closer, I was wrong - it indeed appears the standard rss feeds are affected by this change after all. Grrrrr.... Crying or Very sad

Bob
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2016, 03:10    Post subject:  

weather underground still offers forecast and free keys.
I use it in a script in the #puppylinux channel on freenode

Most puppies have a link to the channel...if you care to, log in and type
!w or !w help
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Moat


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2016, 16:09    Post subject:  

Still broken today, throwing the same "Please provide valid credentials. OAuth oauth_problem".

More people reporting the issue - https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/4buhc7/news_yahoo_weather_rss_api_is_downgone_if_your/

I don't get it - just what in Pete's name are they thinking? Potentially breaking millions of users' weather reporting apps, worldwide.

Confused

Bob
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Moat


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar 2016, 19:04    Post subject:  

Found a simple fix for the Yahoo weather issue, from this post in the Rainmeter forums -

https://forum.rainmeter.net/viewtopic.php?p=121417#p121417

Simply replace the existing config's Yahoo URL...

Code:
http://weather.yahooapis.com


... with this -

Code:
http://xml.weather.yahoo.com


For how long this "new" URL will continue to function, who knows. But it's working dandy here, so far. YaY! Smile

Bob
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davids45


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar 2016, 20:07    Post subject: New yahoo weather link
Subject description: Browser link works - pwidget 'in progress' [Fixed]
 

G'day Moat,

Thanks for finding the fix for our Weather-Forecast widget yahoo source.

It works for here (Sydney (not the one in Canada), temperatures in Celsius) in my browser.

But not yet in my widget - I'd probably fiddled with it too much and will need to start again from scratch Embarassed .

Hoping Yahoo don't decide to stop this feed before I get the widget fixed Rolling Eyes .

Fixed - I needed to paste the new URL in the (unused by me) Weather_Station widget config - I'd pasted the link in the Weather_Station_Forecast config (which I use) but it called the URL from the Weather_Station widget (ignoring the URL line in its own config file?). Probably something I've broken during playing around.


David S.
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016, 07:08    Post subject:  

odd.....
this url gives me what I want for weather
http://xml.weather.yahoo.com/forecastrss?w=12766523&u=f
but
when used in the weather station configuration file, it doesn't return
any values

Any hints/ideas ?

thanks
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Mayou


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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016, 07:33    Post subject: nobody cares of my trouble with pwidgets.  

nobody cares of my trouble with pwidgets Question not US, women... I go away, where sun is shining, where pWidgets is not frozen as in United states of America.
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Moat


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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016, 14:09    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
Any hints/ideas ?


My guess is that line 16 of the Weather_Stationfunc plugin has to be changed to reflect the new URL (for Weather_Station, that would be /usr/local/pwidgets/widgets/plugins/Weather_Station/Weather_Stationfunc) - otherwise it might be overwriting the config's new URL with the bad, old URL if being invoked via the Pwidgets GUI.

Just a guess. I plan on digging into these issues if I get some time this week. Looks like all of the Yahoo weather widgets/plugins will need to be tweaked.

Bob
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Mar 2016, 15:43    Post subject:  

Hey musher0 -

musher0 wrote:
I can confirm that vovchick's yweather is not responding properly today.


In case you're interested, I more-or-less repaired vovchik's Yweather, using this newly-discovered, working Yahoo URL - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=896431#896431

I'm sure you could do a better job at compiling it, but hey - it works, and it's really not that big anyway. FWIW! Smile

Bob
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tlchost

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016, 17:27    Post subject:  

Moat wrote:


In case you're interested, I more-or-less repaired vovchik's Yweather, using this newly-discovered, working Yahoo URL - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=896431#896431


any luck with pwidgets weather ?
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016, 18:55    Post subject:  

Hi tlchost -

After applying the URL tweaks I mentioned in a few posts above - to both the Pwidgets' config and especially Weather_Stationfunc plugin - unload/re-load the widget via Pwidgets GUI and in the location popup window enter USMD0018 for Baltimore (from this website - https://weather.codes/united-states-of-america/maryland/ )

IOW - USMD0018 is the location code you want.

See if that works. It does here (is it really mid 70's there today?).

Actually (and optionally), the Weather_Stationfunc plugin's location parameter forecastrss?p has been deprecated, and could be changed to forecastrss?w instead - in which case your original WOEID of 12766523 should likely work.

Aack... more tail-chasing, never-ending stuff to fix... Confused

Bob
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016, 19:57    Post subject:  

[quote="Moat"
IOW - USMD0018 is the location code you want.

See if that works. It does here (is it really mid 70's there today?).

Actually (and optionally), the Weather_Stationfunc plugin's location parameter forecastrss?p has been deprecated, and could be changed to forecastrss?w instead - in which case your original WOEID of 12766523 should likely work.[/quote]

Thanks...works now...and yes, it's 74 and we're having a thunder storm.
BTW, USMD0020 is the weather station 1/2 mile from me.

Hopefully the changes will be incorporated in the next release of pwidgets
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