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Distributing Puppy on Portable storage device

#1 Post by charlie88 »

Im interested in selling a portable storage device (say USB drive) that has a customized Puppy distro on it. The aim is to create something that can rival Splashtop in terms of speed and functionality, just on a portable device.

Could I get permission to use puppy? Are there other things I should know?

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#2 Post by darrelljon »

I think Puppy is LGPL.

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#3 Post by Pizzasgood »

http://www.puppylinux.com/faq.htm
Near the bottom is a section on the legal side of Puppy.
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#4 Post by brymway »

For what it's worth, I've yet to come across a computer that will boot off a usb, and I've been looking. All the ones that I have aquired for little or nothing, something Puppy is designed to run on, WILL boot off a cd but none will boot off a usb. So I've become kind of skeptical about the whole usb-efficiency thing. I'm all about being mobile, little or no footprint and obscenely against buying a new computer, so live cd's are definitely more efficient as they can be used, anywhere.

Splashtop is selling something people don't need. They are marketing something, telling people they have a problem, and solving it. I don't have a problem, I don't hardly turn my computer off, so my access to a computer is faster than Splashtop. The problem isn't that the windows zombies need "another" distro, the problem is that they aren't able to recognize the evil software bloat and the hardware bloat that follows with it. Puppy can be the answer, if we could just work towards a common goal, which is, in my opinion, Puppys biggest downfall. So take that for what it's worth. Hope it helped.
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#5 Post by smokey01 »

Brymway,
For what it's worth, I've yet to come across a computer that will boot off a usb, and I've been looking.
Puppy boots off a usb HDD, usb memory stick and an SD card here.

You need to make the media bootable though. I used Gparted.

This is on a EEEPC.

Smokey

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#6 Post by Aitch »

Hi, this was a concern of mine which I sent to BK a while ago
BarryK wrote:
Aitch wrote:Subject: Copyright Theft - Puppy OVERPRICED on ebay!!

Hi Barry

I found these ads purely by chance, & I believe you should be the one to look at this first, hence I kept it private

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ ... oZQQ_sopZ1

There are at least 2 Uk sellers & at least 1 US seller
Since this appears to be unauthorised, if need be, I can make up a post/pm message, to get a few of the cleverer forum posters to assist in tracing the sellers, but won't act without specific authority

I believe these are also a breach of ebay/paypal rules, as copyright theft

eBay is supported by a 1300 strong legal team, if you send a notice of infringement, they will deal with it, though you could, I believe just file an income claim by percentage

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/community/ ... gement.pdf

As I understand it, you may also have to register with ebay - vero as an interested copyright holder, and create an 'about me' page, though the notice of infringement would, in my mind, qualify

I feel cheated, I don't know about you!! :(

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Aitch,
No, that's ok. They are within their rights to sell the CD, at minimal price, also to sell a bundle, Puppy+Flash -- where the item they are making the profit on is the Flash drive.

Regards,
Barry Kauler
So that's sorted then, OK?

PS I concur with brymway, however, that most older PCs I tried won't boot off a pendrive, so it'll only suit newer bios'd PCs

Aitch :)

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#7 Post by ttuuxxx »

Aitch wrote:Hi, this was a concern of mine which I sent to BK a while ago
BarryK wrote:
Aitch wrote:Subject: Copyright Theft - Puppy OVERPRICED on ebay!!

Hi Barry

I found these ads purely by chance, & I believe you should be the one to look at this first, hence I kept it private

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZ ... oZQQ_sopZ1

There are at least 2 Uk sellers & at least 1 US seller
Since this appears to be unauthorised, if need be, I can make up a post/pm message, to get a few of the cleverer forum posters to assist in tracing the sellers, but won't act without specific authority

I believe these are also a breach of ebay/paypal rules, as copyright theft

eBay is supported by a 1300 strong legal team, if you send a notice of infringement, they will deal with it, though you could, I believe just file an income claim by percentage

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/community/ ... gement.pdf

As I understand it, you may also have to register with ebay - vero as an interested copyright holder, and create an 'about me' page, though the notice of infringement would, in my mind, qualify

I feel cheated, I don't know about you!! :(

Aitch
Aitch,
No, that's ok. They are within their rights to sell the CD, at minimal price, also to sell a bundle, Puppy+Flash -- where the item they are making the profit on is the Flash drive.

Regards,
Barry Kauler
So that's sorted then, OK?

PS I concur with brymway, however, that most older PCs I tried won't boot off a pendrive, so it'll only suit newer bios'd PCs

Aitch :)
Hey Aitch theres more than that guy selling them
http://shop.ebay.com/items/__puppy-linu ... ec0Q2em283

and by chance one has a desktop background that kind looks very similar to the user "J-Bob " avatar could be a coincidence ?
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/9/3/2/5/ ... 350_tp.jpg

no offence J-Bob :wink:
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#8 Post by Aitch »

Hmm

can you fold your long link?

I hadn't intended this to get spammy, advertising other people's puppy sales pitches, however, the 2nd link is also advertising puppy USB pendrives

Individually created desktops could still be copyright infringements, so some of my post to Barry may apply, if it's happening to you [J-Bob?]

Aitch :)

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#9 Post by brymway »

Puppy boots off a usb HDD, usb memory stick and an SD card here.

You need to make the media bootable though. I used Gparted.

This is on a EEEPC.
I've yet to come across a computer that boots from a usb. I'm aware that Puppy will boot off all manner of storage devices. My point is that old computers don't all boot from usb. The problem in computing today is not that people need to buy new computers with smaller operating systems. The majority of the computers out there are perfectly adequate to run excellent Linux software. Puppy is the answer and remedy for the problem: smaller software that will run on peoples existing computers. Just not necessarily off usb.
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#10 Post by rcrsn51 »

Here is my experience. Lots of older BIOS's claim to support USB bootability with options like USB-FDD and USB-HDD. However, you really need to find a more recent machine (less than five years old) that detects the USB device as a second hard drive. This will actually boot properly from USB.

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#11 Post by smokey01 »

I agree with you regarding old computers.

In fact my desktop computer is reasonably new, less than five years and it won't boot from a USB pen drive or I haven't managed to get it to.

I guess the BIOS could be upgraded which is likely to solve the problem although I get very nervous doing this as you can kill a machine very easily. A few years back it was easy to replace a BIOS ROM as they could be removed. These days they are usually soldered to the motherboard and difficult to replace.

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