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How to delete files from the personal storage file?
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Olive08

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 13:38    Post subject:  How to delete files from the personal storage file?  

While in the process of experimenting with NOP 4.12 installed on a USB flash drive, I received the message that my personal storage file was full and I should delete some files to make room for new ones. Since my personal storage file was already 544 MB, I do not see what files have been added so as to take up all available space. Thus my question is how to display the contents of my personal storage file and how to spot candidates for deletion without running the risk of deleting something I shouldn't.

Any help?
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 13:54    Post subject:  

Go to the folder /initrd and find the subfolders pup_ro2 and pup_rw. The first one contains the core Puppy content. The second contains everything you have added. But you should not start randomly deleting stuff.

Have you installed other software? Have you downloaded and saved files into your /root home directory? Is your web browser cache filling up?
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Olive08

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 18:02    Post subject:  

Since the size of my /initrd/pup_rw is 476.4 kB, it is hardly worth the effort to look for anything to delete in it. But the indication that there are 3 GB of space available for pup_rw to grow, presumably in a 544 MB personal storage file, is rather perplexing. So the question where the 544 MB of available space in my personal storage file has gone to remains unanswered. For sure I was able to delete a few files, photos, etc., from my desktop. As far as downloads are concerned, I can account for 100 MB for installing Java and another 10 MB for Firefox. For browsing, maximum cache size for Opera and Firefox is 10 MB apiece. I also installed the latest Abobe Flash Player from a .pet download but I couldn't trace where it has been installed and what its size is. Thus I still find it difficult to account for the 544 MB originally available in my personal storage file. Could it be that there are log files that grow out of proportion over time and have to be trimmed back once in a while? If yes, where should I look for them? In addition I have no idea about how to find how much free space there ia at present in my personal storage file before the warning that I am running out of it is flashed onscreen when it might be too late to take timely remedial action.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 18:23    Post subject:  

[Edited] I stand corrected. Puppy works differently on a flash drive because of how it builds the layered filesystem. The core files are in pup_ro2, the savefile is in pup_ro1 and pup_rw contains any changes that you make during the session before they are flushed back to the save file.

This thread may be helpful.

I find the best browser setting is "Clear private data when I close".

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smokey01


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 19:13    Post subject:  

Olive08,

It sounds like you may be using a 4G flash drive as you say you have 3G free.

There are two points here that need to be explained for you to understand this better. The pup_save file is a file and has nothing to do with available space on your flash drive. You create the pup_save file when you first shutdown Puppy, it usually defaults to 512M. Puppy asks you questions on the size and where you would like to save it. Do you remember this?

As your pup_save file is now full you need to take one of two actions or both. Delete unwanted files from the pup_save file or increase the size of the pup_save file. One of the biggest culprits I have found for a pup_save file growing is email and large attachments. Anything you save in my-documents and my-applications is also saved in the pup_save file by default.

To increase your pup_save file, click on the Menu button, then Utility then Resize personal storage file. This will allow you to increase your pup_save file incrementally. Be careful not to make the file lager than the storage media, in your case 3G on the flash drive. I'm not sure how big these personal storage files can be as I have never increased one over 2G.

Hope this helps.

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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Aug 2010, 11:29    Post subject:  

Excuse for digging out this thread !

I`am runnig Macpup_Foxy3 (and _Opera2) since May this year and started with full installs.

Now I figured out how to boot into frugal.
I`ve read about the .2fs savefile and thought /etc and /root might be in it.
/etc was 2MB and /root 15-20MB so I did choose 64MB for the first savefile.
Now firefox claims as usual 50+MB and I am getting this warning about deleting files inside there too.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=269859#269859
explained about the `resizepfile.sh` command.

HOW TO LOOK INSIDE THE .2fs file:
Code:
# mkdir /root/PSAVEFILE
# mount -o loop /mnt/home/PUPPY/pupsave-F32.2fs /root/PSAVEFILE


open rox, click on the PSAVEFILE folder and there you are Smile

Think that could be helpful to other Murga Forum search users .

regards
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Shep

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Aug 2010, 04:37    Post subject: Re: How to delete files from the personal storage file  

Olive08 wrote:
While in the process of experimenting with NOP 4.12 installed on a USB flash drive, I received the message that my personal storage file was full and I should delete some files to make room for new ones.

I don't know NOP specifically, but isn't there a number on the bottom right-hand corner of your screen, near the clock? If it says something like "120 MB free" then you still have that amount of space unused in your 512 MB save file, or whatever size you'd set aside. Stuff that you have downloaded and saved fills that save file, including video clips, mp3s, extra programs, packages, plugins, codecs, etc., unless you take steps to move these somewhere else.

First suggestion, look at files and their sizes in /root and its subdirectories. ls -lSr is a handy command to type in a console, or use the file manager.

Second, I'm finding the Firefox browser accumulates junk and eternally keeps on doing so with each usage. At every boot I look for its file Cache.Trash and delete its contents, typically restoring up to 200 MB. Cool Cool The path is a little different for each installation, so to find that file, for your install type at a prompt: find /root -name 'Cache.Trash' then navigate there and delete its contents. (Well, I've been doing that seemingly with impunity, so I guess it's safe. Shocked Shocked Surprised Surprised Razz Razz

It annoys me the way puppy installs extra software but doesn't tell you the precise program name or the directory where it has stored it. A handy command to find files with names containing a particular string, e.g., the word Adobe, is find, e.g., find / -name 'Adobe'

HTH
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PostPosted: Thu 19 Aug 2010, 07:19    Post subject:  

One of the good things about Seamonkey is that it's very easy to configure so it's doesn't grow to a gigantic size. If you want to try Seamonkey I can provide a step-by-step account of how to prevent it from saving History and Private Data, which are the 2 main things that cause any Browser to "bloat". I just Bookmark my favourite websites instead.
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2018, 21:47    Post subject: Alors... /initrd/pup_rw, c'est..  

Alors... /initrd/pup_rw, c'est... ? C'est le...
C'est ça, ouvrez la bouche, faites semblant de bien mordre dans les mots.
Répétez après moi : « /initrd/pup_rw, c'est le... »
/initrd/pup_rw, c'est le pupsave !
Evil or Very Mad NO !

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2018, 21:50    Post subject: the savefile is in pup_ro1  

the savefile is in pup_ro1 and pup_rw contains any changes that you make during the session before they are flushed back to the save file.

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