The download is completed and I am sending this screenshots from mediaPup.
WINE works fine and I now am pretty much independent from other media related distros.
Thank you Steve!
John
MediaPup
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You're welcome! Sorry it took so long.
Let us know what works and doesn't in the included apps. when you get a chance.
I'm now working on reducing the size.
And possibly adding Audacity.
Also working on recompiling Winff. for Puppy and Gtk+ 2.12.1 This is a problem because it needs Pascal and Lazarus, and that looks like a job in itself -- unless someone out there with them already onboard a 412 retro puppy could help out with a compile of Winff.....
Looking at Cinelarra, too. Though maybe putting too much in one Puplet, then.
Thinking it should be what I have now for home and fun use, and maybe Cinelarra and Audacity together for another version for pros.
The nice thing is these can run off the CD in pfix=ram if you have a gig of ram (at present -- maybe reduced later) and you don't have to install anything to do serious media editing, no matter what your OS. Just save data to your Media partition or disk.
Considering how to make this all into an sfs instead of a pupplet.
Let us know what works and doesn't in the included apps. when you get a chance.
I'm now working on reducing the size.
And possibly adding Audacity.
Also working on recompiling Winff. for Puppy and Gtk+ 2.12.1 This is a problem because it needs Pascal and Lazarus, and that looks like a job in itself -- unless someone out there with them already onboard a 412 retro puppy could help out with a compile of Winff.....
Looking at Cinelarra, too. Though maybe putting too much in one Puplet, then.
Thinking it should be what I have now for home and fun use, and maybe Cinelarra and Audacity together for another version for pros.
The nice thing is these can run off the CD in pfix=ram if you have a gig of ram (at present -- maybe reduced later) and you don't have to install anything to do serious media editing, no matter what your OS. Just save data to your Media partition or disk.
Considering how to make this all into an sfs instead of a pupplet.
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Thanks very much for putting this together and making it available. I am posting from it nowConsidering how to make this all into an sfs instead of a pupplet
The SFS would be a good idea - making your suite of programs available for 'Deep Thought' (4.2 - first alpha expect 25 Jan 2009 aprox) and beyond.
Be aware that Audacity worked OK (after much problems getting it to work) in the 2.xx and the Slackware compatible 3.xx series BUT as far as I am aware has not yet successfully been compiled for the 4.xx series of Puppy.
Anyway will be passing on Mediapup to my brother in law who has been asking for such a disk be interesting how he gets on.
Meanwhile for those with 1GB or ram and a video camera . . .
Where are our advertorials? Youtube training vids? Puppy promotions?
Looking forward to further installments
I'm very interested in this but have not got the download left for this month to give it a try 
. I might have to raid some friends bandwith .
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That's all for now.
Geoff
. I might have to raid some friends bandwith .In reply to Lobster's comment -
I run Audacity 1.3.5 quite OK in Puppy 4.0.Be aware that Audacity worked OK (after much problems getting it to work) in the 2.xx and the Slackware compatible 3.xx series BUT as far as I am aware has not yet successfully been compiled for the 4.xx series of Puppy.
That's all for now.
Geoff
wish list
Some thing to include in the MediaPup? I do have a wish list.
As a lazy guy who doesn't want to compile source code with GCC, I couldn't be happier if someone else does the compiling for the programs I want to use without using any kind of emulator.
Nothing is better than running in native mode.
Here comes my wish list.
1. Audacity
2. Wings 3D
3. K3D
4. Kino
5. any program similiar to Flash
I hope above programs are included in the next version of MediaPup.
One thing, When I exit from MediaPup, soemhow it goes blank and had to reboot. I think it is my hardware problem.
As a lazy guy who doesn't want to compile source code with GCC, I couldn't be happier if someone else does the compiling for the programs I want to use without using any kind of emulator.
Nothing is better than running in native mode.
Here comes my wish list.
1. Audacity
2. Wings 3D
3. K3D
4. Kino
5. any program similiar to Flash
I hope above programs are included in the next version of MediaPup.
One thing, When I exit from MediaPup, soemhow it goes blank and had to reboot. I think it is my hardware problem.
Hi Lobster, thank you.
I actually did have Audacity working before I even thought about making a puplet, but removed it in favor of MHWavedit (which is already a part of Puppy 4.1.2) since I found it easier (as a newb) to use. So I don't think it will be hard to add back.
The main thing I want to do first however is drop the size down of Mediapup right now. So I don't want to add anything in until I can first make it smaller.
Also working on a simple conversion method to sfs here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 352#266352
PuppyIso don't worry, I wasn't thinking of removing programs, so what is already there will stay. By reducing size, I meant physical size. I'd like to get the required memory size down.
The .sfs version would definitely help there, rather than the remastered Mediapup puplet version. You could then run it on relatively low memory computers.
On the other hand with computers boasting a gig of ram, the remastered puplet would allow running everything in ram.
I actually did have Audacity working before I even thought about making a puplet, but removed it in favor of MHWavedit (which is already a part of Puppy 4.1.2) since I found it easier (as a newb) to use. So I don't think it will be hard to add back.
The main thing I want to do first however is drop the size down of Mediapup right now. So I don't want to add anything in until I can first make it smaller.
Also working on a simple conversion method to sfs here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 352#266352
PuppyIso don't worry, I wasn't thinking of removing programs, so what is already there will stay. By reducing size, I meant physical size. I'd like to get the required memory size down.
The .sfs version would definitely help there, rather than the remastered Mediapup puplet version. You could then run it on relatively low memory computers.
On the other hand with computers boasting a gig of ram, the remastered puplet would allow running everything in ram.
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@ puppyiso
There is no need to use Wine to run Wings3D, as there is a linux version available here
I am using version 0.99.04a in Puppy-4.00 without any problems.
CatDude
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@ puppyiso
There is no need to use Wine to run Wings3D, as there is a linux version available here
I am using version 0.99.04a in Puppy-4.00 without any problems.
CatDude
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wings3d
Catdude, are you talking about wings-0.99.04a-linux.bzip2.run.gz?
Sorry for my ignorance. I don't know how to use it. just unzip and click on one of xx.sh file? Does the file name ..run.gz mean executable binary?
Whenever you have some time, kindly show me how you use the downloaded file.
Thing is that I have many wonderful windows freewares I would like to use such as Goldwave(share), K3D(a distant cousin of Maya?) etc.
I would liker to keep my options open to use windows programs.
Anyway, thank you for reminding me the linux version. I just don't know how to use it. I have always wished someone make it as a pet file.
I admit being so lazy. But that's how I am...
Sorry for my ignorance. I don't know how to use it. just unzip and click on one of xx.sh file? Does the file name ..run.gz mean executable binary?
Whenever you have some time, kindly show me how you use the downloaded file.
Thing is that I have many wonderful windows freewares I would like to use such as Goldwave(share), K3D(a distant cousin of Maya?) etc.
I would liker to keep my options open to use windows programs.
Anyway, thank you for reminding me the linux version. I just don't know how to use it. I have always wished someone make it as a pet file.
I admit being so lazy. But that's how I am...
Hello puppyiso
Now right click on it, and select: Permissions
Click on Yes
Now all you have to do is click on it, and it will install into: /root/wings-0.99.04a
When asked, hit the Enter/Return key.
To run it, click on: /root/wings-0.99.04a/wings
Hope that helps
CatDude
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I am indeed mate.puppyiso wrote:Catdude, are you talking about wings-0.99.04a-linux.bzip2.run.gz?
Just click on it, and you will get the following message:puppyiso wrote: Whenever you have some time, kindly show me how you use the downloaded file.
- Do you want to decompress /root/dudesdata/test/wings-0.99.04a-linux.bzip2.run.gz ?
(it will decompress in current location
and the original file will be deleted)
Now right click on it, and select: Permissions
Click on Yes
Now all you have to do is click on it, and it will install into: /root/wings-0.99.04a
When asked, hit the Enter/Return key.
To run it, click on: /root/wings-0.99.04a/wings
Hope that helps
CatDude
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Thank you Catdude!
This forum is a wonderful place. And I did realized how lazy and dumb I am not to mention lack of knowledge.
Catdude, with your kind instruction, I know know how simple it was and I am so grateful to you.
Linux is something Distrowatch says "Put the fun back into computing"
I thank everybody in this forum and I believe my choice for linux is right regardless what the others(windows believers)say.
Catdude, with your kind instruction, I know know how simple it was and I am so grateful to you.
Linux is something Distrowatch says "Put the fun back into computing"
I thank everybody in this forum and I believe my choice for linux is right regardless what the others(windows believers)say.
Re: Thank you Catdude!
You're very welcome mate, we all need a little guidance occasionally.puppyiso wrote: Catdude, with your kind instruction, I know know how simple it was and I am so grateful to you.
CatDude
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Memory Requirements of MediaPup
Looks like I overestimated the memory requirements. As an experiment I just ran MediaPup in pfix=ram on my hopped up Thinkpad 600e, which has 428 megabytes onboard, not 1 Gig. It opened right up!
I think the reason it worked was that I have a swap partition. Didn't realize that Puppy could adjust -- and assumed that a 322 megabyte LiveCD would need to uncompress into a much larger ram space.
Anyway, looks like Mediapup will run in under 512 megabytes using pfix=ram, though you probably need a swap file to do it. 1 Gig is NOT needed, though certainly nice to have.
I'll edit the first post re. RAM requirements.
I might try experimenting with even less memory.
I'm also assuming a full install doesn't need much memory at all, since it runs on HD. --
Also pfix=noram runs off the CD and has minimal memory requirements. If installed to a memory stick, it should be pretty quick with pfix=noram.
I think the reason it worked was that I have a swap partition. Didn't realize that Puppy could adjust -- and assumed that a 322 megabyte LiveCD would need to uncompress into a much larger ram space.
Anyway, looks like Mediapup will run in under 512 megabytes using pfix=ram, though you probably need a swap file to do it. 1 Gig is NOT needed, though certainly nice to have.
I'll edit the first post re. RAM requirements.
I might try experimenting with even less memory.
I'm also assuming a full install doesn't need much memory at all, since it runs on HD. --
Also pfix=noram runs off the CD and has minimal memory requirements. If installed to a memory stick, it should be pretty quick with pfix=noram.
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Videopup
Maybe it would be of some help to have a look at papos' vediopup ?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1863207205
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1863207205
Didn't see that one. Interesting that we made a parallel effort.
Your Vediopup puplet, from the sound of it wouldn't have helped me when I started because my primary focus was getting ManDVD to run in a stock 4.1.2 retro puppy.
My other program additions such as Mplayer, Kino, DVDSlideshow and Avidimux came as I tried to resolve ManDVD's dependencies and then edit videos and audio to add to it. No single program seemed to have everything I needed.
I included Wine because I'm not a fan of Gimp, despite the reqirement for it in ManDVD. At the time, I was working on adding my old standby Picture Publisher 10 to Wine, but still don't know if it will succeed. It's a commercial program, so it will never be in MediaPup. I did include Pixia under Wine as an alternative photo editor.
I also tried to run Winff under Wine, as well as natively under Puppy. With no joy yet -- it needs a recompile with Lazarus to run in Puppy. And it doesn't run out of the box in Wine, so no point in pursuing that win direction further. I'll probably compile Winff at some point when I deal with installing Lazarus and all that junk, unless somebody else beats me to it (please, please!)
Probably the clearest difference between these two pupplets, besides the versions of things like wine, puppy base, and BigBass'es full mplayer in Mediapup is that the focus of MediaPup is not on rendering and animation but slideshow and video to DVD authoring. Thus Blender is not present, and ManDVD is the central piece from which the other capabilities expand. K3b and K9copy, and a full mencoder are important to what I needed to do.
Anyway, welcome to the forums nancy reagan. I see this is your first post. Blender folks will undoubtedly find your redirection helpful.
Your Vediopup puplet, from the sound of it wouldn't have helped me when I started because my primary focus was getting ManDVD to run in a stock 4.1.2 retro puppy.
My other program additions such as Mplayer, Kino, DVDSlideshow and Avidimux came as I tried to resolve ManDVD's dependencies and then edit videos and audio to add to it. No single program seemed to have everything I needed.
I included Wine because I'm not a fan of Gimp, despite the reqirement for it in ManDVD. At the time, I was working on adding my old standby Picture Publisher 10 to Wine, but still don't know if it will succeed. It's a commercial program, so it will never be in MediaPup. I did include Pixia under Wine as an alternative photo editor.
I also tried to run Winff under Wine, as well as natively under Puppy. With no joy yet -- it needs a recompile with Lazarus to run in Puppy. And it doesn't run out of the box in Wine, so no point in pursuing that win direction further. I'll probably compile Winff at some point when I deal with installing Lazarus and all that junk, unless somebody else beats me to it (please, please!)
Probably the clearest difference between these two pupplets, besides the versions of things like wine, puppy base, and BigBass'es full mplayer in Mediapup is that the focus of MediaPup is not on rendering and animation but slideshow and video to DVD authoring. Thus Blender is not present, and ManDVD is the central piece from which the other capabilities expand. K3b and K9copy, and a full mencoder are important to what I needed to do.
Anyway, welcome to the forums nancy reagan. I see this is your first post. Blender folks will undoubtedly find your redirection helpful.
Hi Artie,
I think timing is probably everything -- maybe try it at a different time from the first site? That's Caneri's puppylinux.ca site.
The other thing we could try is a bittorrent upload. I've never tried that -- anybody have any pointers for me fo how-to and where-to?
I could try to upload it tonight.....
I think timing is probably everything -- maybe try it at a different time from the first site? That's Caneri's puppylinux.ca site.
The other thing we could try is a bittorrent upload. I've never tried that -- anybody have any pointers for me fo how-to and where-to?
I could try to upload it tonight.....
Hi vtpup, I used pwget and this morning I had gotten the whole file intact. I think torrent would be a good idea as I sometimes download small torrent files with Opera. However, since I'm running from a memory stick in RAM whenever I try to download big torrent files in Opera I run out of RAM although I have 700 and something. My pc is on most of the day anyway so I wouldn't mind sharing some Puppy files via torrent but I have no idea how to go about that safely so I don't expose the whole pc to everyone else. I'm on ADSL. Download is about 4MB but upload is either 64 or 128k. Not sure how to check that or if that is good enough for torrents. Maybe someone else could shed some light on the use of pctorrent and pccreatetorrent for us? Is anyone in the Puppy community using torrent at all?
Artie
Artie
Good artie, glad to hear you got it.
Yes I would also like to know where and how to upload it to a good torrent.
Also, maybe it was difficult earlier to download from pupplinux.ca because I had just added a description of it to puppylinux.org with a screenshot, and it came up as the "latest" puplet in the puplet list.
Maybe a lot of people tried to download it at the same time?
Yes I would also like to know where and how to upload it to a good torrent.
Also, maybe it was difficult earlier to download from pupplinux.ca because I had just added a description of it to puppylinux.org with a screenshot, and it came up as the "latest" puplet in the puplet list.
Maybe a lot of people tried to download it at the same time?
I now have installed mediapup as a frugal install alongside latest Debian on my hard disk. It was very easy to edit the boot sequence in grub, I just opened the text file as administrator in Debian and put in the required lines. I have checked out some of the programs and there's a bit of a learning curve so I will be testing them out when I can find time to teach myself how to use them. Will get back to you if something is amiss. Please keep up the good work, keep mediapup updated and feel free to add some more interesting media programs. Thanks for the pup!
Artie
Artie