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#16 Post by J-Bob »

ttuuxxx wrote:Yes I just tried the latest dillo, It does download packages, but it doesn't do frames or java script, heres a link, you need the 2 packages to make it work, dillo & flt
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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 37&t=34588
i'm preparing those now.

while i do plan to update some stuff, i don't have too many plans to attempt 12.2 compatibility just yet. the 3.xx road is a very, very long road. And the community just began the road.

But with this road, we can prepare for the future.

We could theoretically go to Puppy 3.99999999999 if we wanted to or needed to. but by that time this probably would be a different Puppy.

Like 3Puppy showing it's 3.xx roots possibly.

who knows what will happen

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#17 Post by J-Bob »

dillo2 works, but the new libraries basically kill seamonkey or firefox if i try to use them..

It says "/usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: Line 131: Segmentation Fault "$prog" $[1+$@]

and if i try to run the plain binaries. It kills rxvt.

I have no idea why this is doing this, but it's killing the backwards compatibility So those libraries will need to wait.

this is probably going to knock a half-hour from the release schedule.

And it's release might just be 3.02. since the community seems to be focused on Puppy 4.2, while this has a very obscure existance.

and if i release this, it might get more people to focus on this project..

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#18 Post by Lobster »

It is important to understand what the advantages of the 3.02 series are

The main feature is slackware binary compatibility
That is a lot of programs
http://puppylinux.org/community/puppy-c ... ick/lassie

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#19 Post by J-Bob »

Lobster wrote:It is important to understand what the advantages of the 3.02 series are

The main feature is slackware binary compatibility
That is a lot of programs
http://puppylinux.org/community/puppy-c ... ick/lassie

:)
I'll see what i can figure out.

I'll try some slackware binaries.
But for now, if we call this the final 3.02, this is likely to not make the grade. Without running most Puppy 3.xx and Puppy 2.xx applications.

And in this release i'm trying to mainly focus on the tiny size. Than figure out where to go from there.

And from what i know, Puppy 3 carried Slackware 12 binary compatibility, but compatibility with 12.2, might be a challenge.

But the main thing for this release was to stabilize the alpha, and get a cutdown puppy from that, and see where we should go next.

This is partially why i call this Puppy Remnant/Lassie. As i don't know if Chihuahua was the CE name, but Lassie was one for sure. So the release name for this is lassie.

And until more people enter the project, complicated things like trying to bump up slackware compatibility and recompiling drivers would need to wait.

So this Puppy which i officially call Remnant Lassie. but could just be called Lassie, partially follows the initial plan.

And some things like a graphical shutdown system, I could probably build. But i would want to learn some Gnocl first.

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#20 Post by ttuuxxx »

J-Bob wrote:
And from what i know, Puppy 3 carried Slackware 12 binary compatibility, but compatibility with 12.2, might be a challenge.
first.
Slack12.2 uses a different Glibc but the programs are still interchangeable, well in 1 direction with glsapt, I guess you can use 12.0 software on 12.2 without downgrading but you can't use 12.2 on 12 without upgrading. I read that somewhere. Thats why I figured better to move up to 12.2, because Slackware doesn't update all that often, They'll be using 12.2 for the next year or so.
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#21 Post by technosaurus »

I made this script of <2kb to make a pupplet as an addon sfs... thought you might include it in a beta release for further testing (as if there aren't enough 3.x puplets already)

Also - let me know if you'd like a 3.X themed web desktop (either hosted or for inclusion)
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#22 Post by straypup »

Glad to see things progressing. One of the problems with Puppy is the wealth of ideas being developed. Your 3.02 was one of the first serious attempts to make Puppy compatable wiht other distros. 4.xx took it into new heights of basically Puppy programs. Now Barry is working on the "Woof" series that will make Puppy compatable with Ubantu (which I don't think is a good idea ) Debian,Slackware,and hopefully inhouse Puppy development. This is one of the problems facing Puppy--to much fragmentation. I have always preferred the three series, but there is so much else to check out. Don't be discouraged, when the smoke settles there is room for all. Have a great day..........Stray :roll:

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#23 Post by trio »

technosaurus wrote: why not make it 3.2 and incorporate the 4.2 core upgrades like hotrox and pwidgets
I think the pwidgets team will be more than happy to help if pwidgets is included. just post in the thread. if not, well you decide what's best

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#24 Post by straypup »

Been a while since I read this thread. Been trying to learn how to create my own style and am finally making some progress. Have always liked the 3.xx series as it is most responsive on my cobbled system. my problem now is simple although my settings are mostly saved, my local time isn,t and on reboot (live) reverts to base. Is there a way to make the setting permanent?
Thanks :) for the hard work Woof Woof
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#25 Post by ecomoney »

I have from time to time, but my goal is primarily to revive the remnants of the TalkingStick project.
Glad to hear it! Am I still in a job?
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#26 Post by WhoDo »

ecomoney wrote:
I have from time to time, but my goal is primarily to revive the remnants of the TalkingStick project.
Glad to hear it! Am I still in a job?
It looks like the project has moved on without you, so I'd guess the answer is probably "No".
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#27 Post by Lobster »

Thanks to J-Bob for reviving this and Ttuuxxx for supporting it.
Glad to hear Robert is going to help as well.
What job do you have for Robert guys?
Maybe the wiki pages can be updated?
http://www.puppylinux.org/community/pup ... ck/phoenix

. . . mostly we just get on with it . . . :)
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#28 Post by ttuuxxx »

Sorry Lobster but I think JBOB has lost his steam,He hasn't made a post since like Jan this year, I'm starting to think 3.0.2CE has a curse on it.
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#29 Post by Lobster »

Looks like Robert is in business :)

I have consulted my imaginary psychiatrist (the one I keep in a cupboard) and she assures me
curses are mind figments just like her . . .

OK Robert, let's see what you can do. :)
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#30 Post by James C »

The last I heard anything about Jbob he had made a few posts over at the Slitaz forums.

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#31 Post by ttuuxxx »

Well lobster I have too much on my plate now and I'm moving forward, not backward. So i'm staying clear of any past releases like 3.02.
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#32 Post by darry1966 »

I have been using this lately having updated it with new Glibcs Gcc etc and some other minor updates and use it with my digital camera been having fun with it.

Available at Archive.org where there are many other nice retro Pups to play around with. I encourage others who haven't been to the puppy section at Archive.org to check it out.

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#33 Post by Colonel Panic »

I'm trying it now. It works well with Softmaker Office (so no need to install Open Office, Libreoffice, Abiword etc.).
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#34 Post by ally »

over 2700 puppies to play with at the archive........

http://archive.org/details/puppylinux

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#35 Post by mavrothal »

ally wrote:over 2700 puppies to play with at the archive........

http://archive.org/details/puppylinux

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2700 puppy ISOs?
Really??? :shock:

Assuming that till puppy3, spinoff were limited that is about 1 new puppy/day for the last 7 years in the 10 year history of puppy!!!
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