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Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 11:27
by WhoDo
I have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought. Although I am very happy with its current state, it is still an alpha so some diligent testing and bug chasing is in order.

Known issues:

1. I didn't include the mods to JWM to allow users to quickly switch into Icewm, although the alternative window manager is installed along with a couple of nice themes. Use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and type

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xwin icewm-session
2. I'm pretty sure I accidently left Xchat out of the mix. That will be fixed in the next release

3. Zigberts update to Pburn-2.1.1 was just a fraction too late to make the alpha. That too will be added to the next release.

4. I haven't been provided with any fixes for the ongoing printing problems using CUPS, and I haven't been able to resolve it myself in testing.

On the positive side, we have the latest versions of xdg (0.7.6-5), PETget (420), Pmusic (0.5.3), Pfilesearch (1.11), Pfind (4.6), Pmetatagger (2.1), Puppybasic (2.6), Pwidgets (0.4), Pwireless (0.8.3), Roxrightclicks (0.8.1), Xpad (2.14) and some interesting game choices (Seahaven, Xfreecell, Xmahjongg, Flashchess, Xcheckers - Jester may come later, as will the overlooked Xchat). Xarchiver proved a tad buggy in testing so it was left out of the alpha to give it time for further testing and improvement. Browser hasn't yet been updated as development is still ongoing.

I'm pleased to say that, after missing the Christmas deadline through circumstances beyond my control, I have delivered the first alpha release a full week ahead of my own revised projection.

Mirrors:
1. http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06/4.2-alpha/ (user=puppy pwd=linux)
2. http://www.pkagfiles.net/puppy-test/
3. http://www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/

My thanks to MU, PkaG and Caneri for the mirrors

Thanks to all the devs who have offered their support and work, especially Zigbert, ttuuxxx, Pizzasgood and Hairywill.

BTW, if you don't see this boot screen on first boot then you've got the wrong download! :P

Image

Enjoy!

Re: Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 12:42
by HairyWill
WhoDo wrote:I have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought.
Where?
Am I being thick

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 13:18
by 01micko
I'm about the same thickness :lol:

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 13:39
by eightbitz
Where's the download? :(

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 14:33
by Caneri
I just sent Warren his new ftp account

Eric

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 14:57
by Lobster
Where?
Use the force . . . and Deep Thought . . . location being sent telepathically . . .
Image

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 17:05
by ttuuxxx
I would say WhoDO is gone to sleep. Its 4am NSW, oz time. So probably another 5hrs to wait, LOL
Oh well puppy wasn't built overnight, or was that Rome?
ttuuxxx

Ps I check the 2 puppy.ca servers for 4.2 and nothing

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 17:14
by Caneri
I wonder if this should go into a CE directory?

If I can get a direct link I'll put it on the new .ca...it should be fast

Eric

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 17:23
by ttuuxxx
Caneri wrote:I wonder if this should go into a CE directory?

If I can get a direct link I'll put it on the new .ca...it should be fast

Eric
I was thinking maybe the test directory since its an alpha?
Its up to you, your the main man when it comes to those things :wink:
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 18:19
by Caneri
Knock knock Warren...time to get up...yawn.

There are a bunch of eager beavers waiting to get a look at your new iso...lol

Eric

Re: Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 21:19
by WhoDo
HairyWill wrote:
WhoDo wrote:I have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought.
Where?
Am I being thick
Caneri wrote:Knock knock Warren...time to get up...yawn.
Nope. I was just sleeping :roll: while the mirrors were being updated. Original post has now been updated with mirrors and a few other bits 'n pieces.

Enjoy!

Re: Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 22:48
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo wrote:I have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought. Although I am very happy with its current state, it is still an alpha so some diligent testing and bug chasing is in order.

Known issues:. Xarchiver proved a tad buggy in testing so it was left out of the alpha to give it time for further testing and improvement. <---Buggy Thats what alpha's are about, fixing bugs, if you don't include them, Then they don't get fixed, I've used Xarchiver hundreds of times and the only bug I've seen is when you accidently click the right panel it closes, when all you need to do is click the left panel for all functions, It could of been installed along with Xarchive, it was small enough, plus it opened all the extra formats that Xarchive has no clue. Well I'll work on it and see whats up.

Thanks to all the devs who have offered their support and work, especially Zigbert, ttuuxxx, Pizzasgood and Hairywill. <---- Liked it better when my name was first, LOL


Why didn't you use the JWM2IceWm switch? Once again its a Alpha and I'm not a coder, (Wouldn't mind learning :wink: )But If you would of left it in, It might of 'BUGGED' others and maybe gotten fixed if something was wrong with it, but if you don't include applications they don't get fixed and plus it removes a learning experience for myself and other to enjoy, when one of the more skilled programmers fix the issue, if there is one.

Oh well, Downloading it not, Thanks WhoDo for all your hard work also.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 23:03
by Caneri
To all the guys in OZ,

Well I'm freezing here in Canada on the Great Lakes....and that's just not fair..lol

Maybe the cold slows down the brain...grrr.

There is another .ca link in Florida http://puppylinux.igsobe.com/ that has a good md5sum..thanks Warren!!

Eric

Re: Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2009, 23:08
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:
WhoDo wrote:have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought. Although I am very happy with its current state, it is still an alpha so some diligent testing and bug chasing is in order.

Known issues:. Xarchiver proved a tad buggy in testing so it was left out of the alpha to give it time for further testing and improvement.
<---Buggy Thats what alpha's are about, fixing bugs, if you don't include them, Then they don't get fixed, I've used Xarchiver hundreds of times and the only bug I've seen is when you accidently click the right panel it closes, when all you need to do is click the left panel for all functions, It could of been installed along with Xarchive, it was small enough, plus it opened all the extra formats that Xarchive has no clue. Well I'll work on it and see whats up.
Update:
Running Xarchiver from a CLI allows the icon bar to be used without a crash UNTIL you open an archive file. Then clicking any icon on the icon bar gives a segmentation fault.

ttuuxxx wrote:
WhoDo wrote:Thanks to all the devs who have offered their support and work, especially Zigbert, ttuuxxx, Pizzasgood and Hairywill.
<---- Liked it better when my name was first, LOL
Of course you did! :lol:

ttuuxxx wrote:Why didn't you use the JWM2IceWm switch? Once again its a Alpha and I'm not a coder, (Wouldn't mind learning Wink )But If you would of left it in, It might of 'BUGGED' others and maybe gotten fixed if something was wrong with it, but if you don't include applications they don't get fixed and plus it removes a learning experience for myself and other to enjoy, when one of the more skilled programmers fix the issue, if there is one.

Oh well, Downloading it not, Thanks WhoDo for all your hard work also.
ttuuxxx
I managed to trash most of this post by trying to quote it when I authored it! :shock: Where's the "idiot" smiley at? Anyway, I've reconstructed most of it thanks to J-Bob's copious quote. I wouldn't want anyone to think I'm trying to rewrite history or anything! :P

Re: Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:57
by J-Bob
ttuuxxx wrote:
WhoDo wrote:I have just uploaded the first alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought. Although I am very happy with its current state, it is still an alpha so some diligent testing and bug chasing is in order.

Known issues:. Xarchiver proved a tad buggy in testing so it was left out of the alpha to give it time for further testing and improvement. <---Buggy Thats what alpha's are about, fixing bugs, if you don't include them, Then they don't get fixed, I've used Xarchiver hundreds of times and the only bug I've seen is when you accidently click the right panel it closes, when all you need to do is click the left panel for all functions, It could of been installed along with Xarchive, it was small enough, plus it opened all the extra formats that Xarchive has no clue. Well I'll work on it and see whats up.

Thanks to all the devs who have offered their support and work, especially Zigbert, ttuuxxx, Pizzasgood and Hairywill. <---- Liked it better when my name was first, LOL


Why didn't you use the JWM2IceWm switch? Once again its a Alpha and I'm not a coder, (Wouldn't mind learning :wink: )But If you would of left it in, It might of 'BUGGED' others and maybe gotten fixed if something was wrong with it, but if you don't include applications they don't get fixed and plus it removes a learning experience for myself and other to enjoy, when one of the more skilled programmers fix the issue, if there is one.

Oh well, Downloading it not, Thanks WhoDo for all your hard work also.
ttuuxxx
Learning to program is never a bad thing. And I know tcl and tk. But sadly i cannot grasp how to use gtk.

But i'm very excited about being able to try 4.2 for the first tine.
I'll do some tests, and possibly bugfixes.

- J-Bob

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 02:09
by ttuuxxx
Hi Whodo this is what I've found so far

- you installed the wrong icewm package, The last one I made came with my new theme for 4.2, plus ,the menu is missing the 24x24 icons only 4 are showing out of 16, 12 missing.

-You included 2 messengers clients, XChat and ayttm.

-Galculator is in Utilities when it should in Calculate, plus that pesty Xcalc is in Calculate.

-You left in Glipper and no autostart Parcelite :cry: , even in Icewm.

-No Xpad on either taskbar, or autostart. Really it would be handy if it was autostarted, It takes like no memory at all.

The Puppy linux boot splash screen was really a quick one, lasted aroun 1/10sec man that was quick, looked nice until I blinked, lol

I guess you didn't use and of those 24x24 icons I posted that would of replaced the very old and tired 16x16 icons for the menu and wizards.

Well Its a great start anyways, no errors, and I was able to use my mouse and go online in seconds :)
Great job all who participated.
ttuuxxx

Update
when you go to menu/Window there is no 'Exit to Prompt' or 'ShutDown' in icewm

UpdateX2
You kept the Gtk2 themes and forgot to replace them with 'ClearLooks" themes

UpdateX3
I did say blinky and freememory applet weren't working, but they are, its how I started Icewm, Startx icewm when I should of typed xwin icewm-session :oops: . I'm used to the other way that works also when you have a file in /etc/windowmanager and the text inside says icewm-session

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 02:45
by J-Bob
i tried it out, and it has quite a polished look overall.

And i'm very glad that i can see the fixes which i did to the jwm tray in puppy 4.2 including the icon_switcher.

It looks like it even has menu buttons for the other three themes.

but i shall give a bug report.

when i switch jwm themes, it makes the .jwmrc-tray file blank.

hopefully that will be fixable in the near future.
I'll probably get back at my thing.

- J-Bob

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 02:52
by ttuuxxx
Ok I installed the last icewm I made up for 4.2 and typed fixmenus
then restarted icewm
and the menu icons were fix minus 1 icon which was there but the wrong colour, Here's an image of what it looks like with the theme I made for 4.2 and the icons in place, remember the theme with the neet looking clock I made and plus the orange glass look and the dark grey background. It really suites the rest of look and feel. :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 03:00
by ttuuxxx
Hey WhoDo I'll fixup up the icewm if you want, Like fix the missing icons and also use the icons from the desktop on the taskbar, like the Home, and maybe make a orange magnifying glass, and I'll see what I can do about the desktop icon on the taskbar also. Give me a few hours and All should be fine.
ttuuxxx
Ps could I sneak in Parcelite and have it autostart only in icewm? extra 22kb????pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Also could install the jwm2icewm fix into the mix

Posted: Sun 18 Jan 2009, 03:15
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:Hey WhoDo I'll fixup up the icewm if you want, Like fix the missing icons and also use the icons from the desktop on the taskbar, like the Home, and maybe make a orange magnifying glass, and I'll see what I can do about the desktop icon on the taskbar also. Give me a few hours and All should be fine.
ttuuxxx
Ps could I sneak in Parcelite and have it autostart only in icewm? extra 22kb????pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Also could install the jwm2icewm fix into the mix
No problem. I had about 3 or 4 copies of your icewm-mini and all were just called icewm (no other identifiers). Obviously I just picked the wrong one.

Parcellite in icewm? 22kb? I don't see why not. jwm2icewm fix? Absolutely!

Like I agreed earlier - it's an alpha. When I have a chance I'll work my way back through this thread to add the fixes to my Unleashed tree. Then I'll come up with second alpha. Don't forget to have a look at what I said was happening in Xarchiver, too. I'm happy to include it if it works right for refugees.

Cheers