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Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes
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WhoDo


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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 08:02    Post subject:  

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
As to the things that don't work, can you go back to the corresponding things that did work in Puppy 4.1x for the second alpha, and save the remaining innovations at least for the third alpha?


Hairywill wrote:
alphas are meant to be broken
I'm bored
release early release often

I think I can satisfy both requests.

1. I have resolved several of the issues that plagued me when I wrote the last post - a good night's sleep helped.

2. I plan to upload Alpha2 fairly soon because it needs you guys to tackle a couple of issues right at the root of the problem.

Things that are now working again include the Pwidgets manager, all non-behaving applications now appear to behave, new features are doing what they should.

Things that are NOT working and need attention are:

1. Bareview is segfaulting so we don't get the introductory web page after you click the yaf-splash notification.

2. Switching JWM themes still blanks the taskbar

3. Desktop icon themes are all over the place - there are 4 basic themes and each one has some idiosyncratic naming of icons. These need to be standardised across themes as well as within themes

4. I still haven't tested CUPS successfully and I have no comprehensive reports about the later version supplied by ttuuxxx with respect to adding printers, managing queues, deleting jobs, etc. Does it all work as expected, at least for local printers?

And of course there are still the outstanding issues on the ToDo List for Deepthought at the wiki. The Alpha2 will have Firepup/Sylpheed which is the prime cause of breaking the 100Mb limit. If IceCat (why would we have a cat in puppy?) doesn't work out I'll move back to Seamonkey for the beta, even if we have to stick with the old version.

@ttuuxxx I know you're working hard on browsers for Deepthought. Please don't be offended if the final choice is to go back to the old stalwart Seamonkey. Firepup will be in the PETget repository no matter what, for those who prefer that and don't mind the extra weight.

I'll upload the Alpha2 in 16 hours unless there is a major problem. It's too late to do it tonight and I have to go to work in the morning.

@Hairywill - Alpha2 will cure your boredom. I've tried to apply your fix for the JWM theme switcher but it still creams the .jwmrc-tray file and I can't see any logical reason why - I may have patched the file incorrectly?

@trio/01micko - the new func for Pwidgets kills the Pwidgets manager. You can't add or remove anything and none of the buttons respond to mouse events. I had to revert to the old func to get the manager going again.

Also Pweather's new font looks great except that the night versions have a box that encrouches on the text description of the conditions below it. I can't see how to increase the line separation so I guess the night characters will need to be modified somehow.

Start counting guys. 16 hours till the Alpha2 is available for download. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 08:37    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
@trio/01micko - the new func for Pwidgets kills the Pwidgets manager. You can't add or remove anything and none of the buttons respond to mouse events. I had to revert to the old func to get the manager going again.


No worries there mate, it is still experimental. We can wait until Sigmund has a look. He's gonna wish he had another two weeks off! Laughing

At least we got the font! So he will be happy on one font.. er... front... Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 09:10    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:

4. I still haven't tested CUPS successfully and I have no comprehensive reports about the later version supplied by ttuuxxx with respect to adding printers, managing queues, deleting jobs, etc. Does it all work as expected, at least for local printers? Like I said I put a heck of a lot of work into this package, Hacked some of Barry's scripts etc, It wasn't a just compile job. I don't have any way of testing it but any others that would like to test it, download link below. Its also not cutdown what so ever, Because I didn't want to break anything. Printers aren't my calling but atleast I tried, And from what I seen it worked, becuase I had to login and it came up on a url with all the options.
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/alphatesting/cups-1.4b2-i386.pet


@ttuuxxx I know you're working hard on browsers for Deepthought. Please don't be offended if the final choice is to go back to the old stalwart Seamonkey. Firepup will be in the PETget repository no matter what, for those who prefer that and don't mind the extra weight.
Razz


Hey WhoDo I'm one step ahead of you Smile I've been compiling Seamonkey all night and I'm getting close, won't be long Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 09:25    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
Also Pweather's new font looks great except that the night versions have a box that encrouches on the text description of the conditions below it. I can't see how to increase the line separation so I guess the night characters will need to be modified somehow.

Noticed that and am onto it, it'll be right for beta. Wink

EDIT: Simple fix is to open the 'weather' config file and reduce (on line 52)
Code:
{font pweather:size=36}
whereas the default is 'size=62', dunno how it will look for daytime though...
EDIT LATER: Daytime appears a little small, I'll get Sigmund to take a look when he returns.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 11:17    Post subject:  

Well I finally have the latest Seamonkey compiled 1.14, the only thing that didn't compile right was the Chrome Folder, So I borrowed one from one of Barry's Previous versions and it worked:) So it has the latest gecko
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20090129 SeaMonkey/1.1.14
But the top of the screen says 1.11 because of the reused Chrome folder, I'll fix that No problem, might not get it finished tonight 2am, but I'll get it done for sure tomorrow, Plus I'll change the theme to the one WhoDo wanted as default, by removing the original theme and replacing most of it: The size of it is 8.9MB and it has Composer but I compiled without mail to save 2MB, Like Barry explained before Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 11:51    Post subject:  

I Have the Seamonkey.Composer pet down to 8.5MB now, The Chrome folder had lots of E-mail parts, So I used a different Seamonkey Chrome folder from Barry's repo without the Email, and it dropped down to 8.5MB not bad at all:)
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 12:53    Post subject:  

Hey WhoDO, I took the SeaHawke 3D theme which was 585kb or 2220kb extracted it and just used the icons for the navigation and css for it, which was 220kb and replaced almost the same amount, and this is what it looks like, plus the pet is down to 8487KB, If you have a different theme please supply the link asap Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 16:34    Post subject: Cusp
Subject description: Testing
 

Sad Downloaded cups-1.4b2-i386.pet

Booted Puppy 4.2 Alpha from CD -

ran pet,,, obviously a different format than before.

OK...found and selected ADD printer... screen shows Local, Network, Other network.... NO BOXES or area to put in anything... just the continue box.

Pressed continue........no response... back to same screen.

Tried small entry box near the top of the screen... which is unlabeled by the way....still no action.

HOW do I get to add a printer????

I AM NOT ON LINE... is that the issue?

Not to be picky, but as I read the instructions it said routine would be located in Utility menu item.. found it in SYSTEM.

Next step please? Sad

Rebooted and ran CD live again.... the old routine found my printer and allowed me to print on a canon 4300 no problem.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 17:47    Post subject:  

Hi that printer package I made to use with a full browser, because this release of puppy wasn't going to have Seamonkey which came with a small type of browser, So if you used it on a release with Seamonkey, Seamonkey doesn't usually come with java script enabled, To enable it. click
Edit/Preferences/
then click
Advanced and tick 'enable java script'

Then try that, Like I said, I don't have a way of testing the package, and Have 1 report that it works, But I don't mind finding out if it works out of the box, If the java is the problem, Thats easily fixed.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 18:41    Post subject:  

'Update on the Seamonkey Browser'
Well I've been testing it and its runs very nicely Smile By far its the browser of choice, well kind of equal to FirePup, FirePup is faster than any Seamonkey I've seen but they both have there good and bads, But anyways Seamonkey is smaller and has Composer, But here's the thing, I remembered that print preview doesn't work on this model of GTK we are using, its a well known problem and has been patched with updated version, So I started looking around and Then I found the problem, if I removed the bindings 'Print Preview' actually worked and didn't crash the browser, yahooo I made a fix for Seamonkey and Firefox, Ok it was luck, but nether the less it works.
Also if you press the insert key this Browser doesn't crash.
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 19:13    Post subject:  

Attached pic....sorry still no go on Cups with Java enabled....GREG Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 19:28    Post subject:  

I notice that your screenshot has two copies of Seamonkey running. Did you make sure all copies were shut down after enabling java?
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 21:05    Post subject:  

Sad

Booted 4.2 Alpha
Enabled Jave in Seamonkey
Closed Seamonkey
Ran Pet from stick
Restarted x
Ran Manage Printers from System Menu
Selected Administration Tab
Clicked Add printer button
....normal warning...
SCREEN THE SAME....

Pressed CONTINUE.
Goes back to DONE...see oic on last post

If you click fast several times.. it reads in the Lower Left infor bar...
"....w...something for local host.. Waiting?"

So same results.

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan 2009, 00:50    Post subject:  

Hey WhoDOOOOOOOO , I Got the Goods !!!!!!!!
Here's your Seamonkey+Composer+Firefox Theme+MonkeyMenu +my 5 search engines 8.6MB pet, already setup and working
Make sure you don't have any previous seamonkey's installed
usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.11
/root/.mozilla/ <--- delete everything in that folder, keep only the firefox folder if there is one, Thats if you have firefox installed.
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan 2009, 02:02    Post subject:  

Minnesota wrote:
Sad

Booted 4.2 Alpha
Enabled Jave in Seamonkey
Closed Seamonkey
Ran Pet from stick
Restarted x
Ran Manage Printers from System Menu
Selected Administration Tab
Clicked Add printer button
....normal warning...
SCREEN THE SAME....

Pressed CONTINUE.
Goes back to DONE...see oic on last post

If you click fast several times.. it reads in the Lower Left infor bar...
"....w...something for local host.. Waiting?"

So same results.

Sad


Hi I got it going again Smile
the reason why it isn't working as soon as you install it is, that the original version is still running and you have to first kill cups. I used Pprocess to kill it, then you go to
/etc/init.d/cups
right click anywhere in white space and select /window/Terminal Here
then type
./cups restart
then it should give you a response 'cups: restarted scheduler.'
then tr it Smile via the menu
So if this version was default it would of been started first up and would of worked out of the box.
ttuuxxx

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