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Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 08:12    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
HairyWill wrote:
The volume trayapp is an earlier revision than the one in 4.1.2. Ttuuxxx can you confirm that this works better for you?

Well Hairy yes and no, Usually when I click on any volume tray app it does a disappearing trick, poof its gone off the taskbar. But this one when I call it up on icewm it stays and works like a mute button, its either full or off, as soon as your say 2mm off the bottom of tray its on full. all the way to the top. But hey I can live with it. maybe I'll put it back on the taskbar on IceWm
thanks Hairy Smile
ttuuxxx


kind of like a log pot instead of a linear pot?

Or like that Big power switch in Frankenstein movies. Idea

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 08:16    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
01micko wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
HairyWill wrote:
The volume trayapp is an earlier revision than the one in 4.1.2. Ttuuxxx can you confirm that this works better for you?

Well Hairy yes and no, Usually when I click on any volume tray app it does a disappearing trick, poof its gone off the taskbar. But this one when I call it up on icewm it stays and works like a mute button, its either full or off, as soon as your say 2mm off the bottom of tray its on full. all the way to the top. But hey I can live with it. maybe I'll put it back on the taskbar on IceWm
thanks Hairy Smile
ttuuxxx


kind of like a log pot instead of a linear pot?

Or like that Big power switch in Frankenstein movies. Idea


Oooh, that bad!

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capoverde


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 09:24    Post subject:  

Just testing 4.2 alpha now. Download was very fast from puppyisos.org.

Cool splash screen, fast boot as (now) usual. My two cents here: wait 10 seconds or hit <Enter> for boot, any other key to stop countdown and show the Help screen.

Superb eye-candy overall! Please accept my compliments, all ye who worked it out. I like having the simple flat icons on the menu and the 3D ones on the desktop. The phantom drive icons getting "solid" when mounted are marvelous (let's hope noone has set a patent on that).

OK for Galculator + GMeasures only in the Calculators section; the "Add widget" and "Add icon" tabs seem to work OK - and were quite a pleasant surprise. The apostrophe key doesn't open the terminal if hit outside a directory window, otherwise works normally.

Not yet sure about the SeaMonkey vs. FirePup choice: the latter doesn't crash by hitting the <Insert> key when writing forms and has better control over Flash tabs & other time-wasters, but SM seems simpler to use - or maybe just got used to it.

GPicView seems to fill the bill nicely for a picture viewer, at last.
Will go on testing. As for what I've seen up to now, Puppy 4.2 alpha seems to be very promising, respecting BK's tradition in full -- at every new release one wondered how it could be better than that. Kudos to everyone in the team! Really great job.

* BTW, out of sheer curiosity two days ago I tested Milax, which is the OpenSolaris-version of DamnSmallLinux -- oh well, with due respect, it's become DamnSlowSolaris... and fully shows Puppy's power!
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 10:11    Post subject:  

Ok one thing that Bugsss me is that Pmount has Preferences for Mut and even Mut is included with 4.2, but Mut doesn't work, Last time I check in 3 series Mut was tcl/tk and we don't have tcl/tx in any of the 4.0 series, its not even in the 4 series repo, if you want tcl/tk you have to go to series 2&3 for the libs. So what I did was remove Mut from the Preferences and added some frames and a title, so its more pleasing to look at, I couldn't find the Pmount package in the 4 series repo at puppylinux.ca so basically this will replace you current Pmount with a non Mut version. what it looks like and updated Pmount is below.If anyone knows where the Pmount pet package is, I would like to repackage it? Well if WhoDo likes the idea ofcourse? I just find it silly and maybe frustrating for new users to try something that has no chance of working out of the box.
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Kal

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:10    Post subject: Tiny Blank Window  

Has anyone run into the tiny blank window over the home icon on the desktop of icewm, when started with "icewm-session". When in this state it crashed on Exit to Prompt. It was somewhat intermittent and I stopped it by starting with "icewm" and then loaded the startup file for icewm with .xinitrc. I don't plan on using JWM at all, because icewm is my preferred choice and gxine works better with it.

Except for that, most things that I used seem to work well, out of the box on icewm.

Good Luck, Kal, just an end user
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pa_mcclamrock


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:16    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
if you want tcl/tk you have to go to series 2&3 for the libs.


Which are out of date. You guys are more than welcome to include my up-to-date Tcl and Tk 8.5.5 PETs, derived from the Slackware 12.2 packages, in 4.2 Unleashed if you wish:

http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mcclamrock/tcl-8.5.5.pet

http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mcclamrock/tk-8.5.5.pet

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:43    Post subject: Re: alpha 1  

growler wrote:
The ftp server and personal didi-wiki - would get my vote to axe as well as hiawatha/PPLOG...


I agree--keep them in Unleashed, but don't foist them on all who get the standard Puppy.

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HairyWill


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:56    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
but Mut doesn't work

Code:
# mut --help
multi-call binary options are: (sym link or cmd line option)
  mut  mutd  mutdaemon  mutforeground  mutclient  probepart  probedisk  probedisk2  probepci  drivelist  guess_fstype  mounts  mediaplug
Meta Options are:
  --exit        : stops the mut 2 daemon
  --debug       : all log messages written, no threads
  --noserv      : scan hardware directly
  --version     : output version/build numbers
  --foreground  : run server in the foreground terminal
mut Options are:
  --timing  -t      : print out time to execute application
 sda:   40GB    disk    sata   6 partitions
# mut probedisk
/dev/sda|Direct-Access|ATA HTC426040G9AT00 00P4
# mut probepart
/dev/sda1|ntfs|18876312|OS/2 HPFS or NTFS
/dev/sda2|ext3|8385930|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sda3|ext3|20964825|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sda4|none|29913030|Extended (contains other slice)
/dev/sda5|ext3|26619642|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sda6|swap|3293262|Linux Swap
#
works fine for me
Jesse rewrote mut so that it could be used from the commandline Barry has included it as an option so that if pmount drive/partition detection fails then the probedisk and probepart implementations provided by mut can be used instead.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:21    Post subject: Re: alpha 1  

growler wrote:
The ftp server and personal didi-wiki - would get my vote to axe as well as hiawatha/PPLOG...
I think there should be some compromise between paring down to the minimum and giving some space to demonstrate examples of small well written packages that people may not otherwise encounter.

didiwiki-0.5-5.1-pup2.pet 20kB
pure_ftpd-1.0.22-2.pet 30kB
hiawatha-6.7.pet 94k

that is a whole lot of server for less than 150k.
Also kirks file sharing server depends on pure-ftpd.
Today I used PcurlFTP to connect to the puppylinux.org website
click on
Setup Sharing
Client OK
Manual OK
enter username, password and ip address of server

Bingo, this creates a rox appdir which will automatically mount the server filesystem when clicked on. Yes, I know this doesn't require putre_ftpd but it might not be in puppy without it.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 13:11    Post subject:  

When you click on the help icon, and click on the release notes for Puppy 4.2, you get "The file /usr/share/doc/release-4.2.htm cannot be found".
Must have been left out.
Also, I tried copying my frugal install pupsave file from 4.1.2 to the Puppy 4.2 frugal install directory and upon booting, it upgraded just fine with all my applications and additions intact.
This was after I had tried booting and pressing the space bar as Puppy 4.2 started to boot. When I did that, I was taken directly to the select keyboard screen, bypassing the select mouse one.
Needless to say, the mouse cursor did not respond and had to exit to the terminal to exit.
I picked DO NOT SAVE and rebooted. But it must have messed up something because even with loading my original pupsave the mouse still did not work.
Live and learn I guess.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 14:28    Post subject:  

Is Dougal's remaster script included in this alpha?
(unlike Barry's default script,this one allows for making a *TRUE* remastered CD,complete with all settings and user modifications)
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 15:51    Post subject:  

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
if you want tcl/tk you have to go to series 2&3 for the libs.


Which are out of date. You guys are more than welcome to include my up-to-date Tcl and Tk 8.5.5 PETs, derived from the Slackware 12.2 packages, in 4.2 Unleashed if you wish

Ok, that does it for me! I've got a shipload of tcl/tk games that I can't use in 4.2 as well, so that's a bonus! At 4Mb combined I'll find a way to shoehorn these libraries in somehow. Dropping hiawatha, PPLOG and a few other oddballs seems the obvious solution. We'll see.

@Hairywill - just saw your post and I agree; 150kb is worth keeping. I'll find somewhere else to pare things down.

Those who have been asking about a development environment for Deepthought, try tcl/tk and gnocl.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 16:19    Post subject: Frugal boot issue solved  

For some bizarre reason when I extracted the puppy iso using ISOMaster in PClinuxOS it extracted them all with names in CAPITALS.
Returned to lower case and it boots fine. Strange!
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 16:22    Post subject: Gxine Full screen mode not working  

Trying to play any video file and pressing "F" or using menus system results in a flash of the screen and then the window is back to the same size.

Otherwise very impressed so far.
FLAC Yes
DVD Yes
Avi Yes
BBCi video player Yes

That covers ninty percent of my needs...

Thanks to all.
Tony
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 16:43    Post subject: Boot Manager Blacklist problems.  

After blacklisting
parport_pc
lp
parport
snd_seq_midi_event

I rebooted and checked the blacklist again.
All these Items were shown in the black list but they are also shown in the left side currently loaded panel.

I have a feeling I have never seen this working from when it was introduced.
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