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himajin


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:56    Post_subject:  Puppy 4.2 Deep Thought Development ja_JP.UTF-8
Sub_title: Japanese localization
 


ime化+α 日本語化しすぎかも
Anthy G-HAL Patch 13
scim
scim-anthy
M+1P+IPAG font
その他アプリの日本語リソース
スクリプトの日本語化(4.1.2から移植)

menu was not localized
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/puppy420rc3_ime.pet
full localized
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/puppy-420rc3-j-hima.iso

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:35    Post_subject: Re: Puppy 4.2 Deep Thought Development ja_JP.UTF-8
Sub_title: Japanese localization
 

himajin wrote:
menu was not localized
This needs extra lines in the .desktop files for each language and then fixmenus should pick it up automatically.

I think MU wrote a utility for translating rox pinboard item descriptions.

I think it is great to be running a translation whilst we are in alpha/beta rather than just after the release. It might be more work for you but hopefully it will help to solve many of the issues surrounding translation before the final release.

If you can translate this
/root/my-roxapps/Rox-Right-Clicks/locale/english.po
and post it here, , roxrightclicksI will include it.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2009, 13:57    Post_subject:  

Yes,we know.
"fixmenus" command make ".jwmrc" from /usr/share/applications and others.
We have localized them.(need some works)
and PuppyPin (from Japanese 4.xx)

"menu was not localized" is my choice.

Thank you.

/root/my-roxapps/Rox-Right-Clicks/locale/japanese.po
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/japanese.po

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jan 2009, 09:46    Post_subject:  

i have a question

where did the icons in the menu come from?

i like them very much

thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jan 2009, 10:17    Post_subject:  

@himajin
Thank you japanese will be included in the 0.8.2 release. Just click on /root/my-roxapps/Rox-Right-Clicks and it should rebuild the menus for you. If you then want to remaster with the links included you should include everything in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith in your new release.

I am new to this localising stuff. Please can you confirm that this code detects your locale properly
Code:
ENVIRONMENT_LANG=`echo $LANG | sed "s/\(..\).*/\1/"` #detect environment language
case $ENVIRONMENT_LANG in
   jp)   export LANGUAGE="japanese" ;;
   *)   export LANGUAGE="english" ;; #english for contries without translation
esac


@Bugman
I think the icons came from zigbert and they were included in the first 4.2 alpha by default

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan 2009, 01:19    Post_subject:  

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I think the icons came from zigbert and they were included in the first 4.2 alpha by default


Yes. I did nothing for menu.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan 2009, 03:43    Post_subject:  


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan 2009, 05:07    Post_subject:  

Hey Bugman,

You can make any 4 series dingo puppy look like deepthought 4.2 if you go here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34331

Menu icons included.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan 2009, 05:10    Post_subject:  

wow
you have been busy

I think I can guess why "Open With" is displayed in english.
In the official ROX-Filer release I think this item is called "Send To" and it has been changed in the version used in puppy to "Open With". My guess is that whoever did the hack didn't update the internationalisation.

I notice that you have translated pnethood. I intend to do some more work on pnethood and will include internationalisation stubs when I do, though it probably won't be before 4.2 is released.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jan 2009, 14:24    Post_subject: Rox localized
Sub_title: ja_JP.UTF-8
 

Quote:
I think I can guess why "Open With" is displayed in english.
In the official ROX-Filer release I think this item is called "Send To" and it has been changed in the version used in puppy to "Open With". My guess is that whoever did the hack didn't update the internationalisation.


OK.

/usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/ja.gmo
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/ja.gmo

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2009, 07:37    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
Hey Bugman,

You can make any 4 series dingo puppy look like deepthought 4.2 if you go here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34331

Menu icons included.


yeah, i did some of that

messed up my 4.12 a bit, when i uninstalled it lost fixmenus, something else

wound up using the flat gray icons though, i like those best, made a special minimalist/modern 3-tone gray desktop wally too!
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2009, 07:44    Post_subject: Re: Rox localized
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himajin wrote:

OK.

/usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/ja.gmo
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/ja.gmo

that is great but I don't know what to do with it

Should it get packaged with ROX-Filer itself or is there an NLS pet that you use?

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2009, 16:43    Post_subject: Re: Rox localized
Sub_title: ja_JP.UTF-8
 

HairyWill wrote:
himajin wrote:

OK.

/usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/ja.gmo
http://nami4.dyndns.org/p_blog/resources/ja.gmo

that is great but I don't know what to do with it

Should it get packaged with ROX-Filer itself or is there an NLS pet that you use?

...and will you save all localisation changes to Japanese localisation sfs file so in future you only need to mount the localisation file for all the updates to take effect?

If would be great to have an nls.sfs file that offered localisation options for ALL languages, but one for each language would be sufficient.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2009, 17:14    Post_subject:  

Bugman,
We are waaaayyy off topic here! This is a good thread for the Japanese puppians out there. Neat desktop though! Maybe you can post it in the "my puppy is more gorgeous" thread. I like it!

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jan 2009, 19:06    Post_subject:  

HairyWill wrote:

Should it get packaged with ROX-Filer itself or is there an NLS pet that you use?

Almost form hear and modefied.
http://add10.hp.infoseek.co.jp/rox/
(japanese only)
WhoDo wrote:

...and will you save all localisation changes to Japanese localisation sfs file so in future you only need to mount the localisation file for all the updates to take effect?

If would be great to have an nls.sfs file that offered localisation options for ALL languages, but one for each language would be sufficient.


うん、sfs file で実現しようと思ったこともあるんだけど、効率が悪いような気がして止めてしまった。
通常、日本語化すればそのままなので、取り外し可にする必要性がさほど感じられない。
今回のpet fileも最終的に日本語版 iso cd を作るための一段階に過ぎないわけで。
むしろ、開発者向きに、個別の日本語化に必要なfileの詰め合わせ(localiz kit)zipのほうが有用な気がする。
なによりsfsは3つしか枠が無いのでもったいない。
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