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Puppy 4.2 Alpha3 Seamonkey Bugs & Fixes
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 10:52    Post subject:  
WhoDo your version of pburn you were going to include and is dated, the newer version has some nice options,
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
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aragon

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 11:06    Post subject:  
@ whodo

reading a post in the fluxpup-thread, there is one more question, we also had several times in the past:

do we have xdelta in 4.2? it would help to reduce the download size in the future and espacially in beta-phase!

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 12:26    Post subject:  
tempestuous wrote:
Please plug in your wifi dongle and run this command
Code:
cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
and report the "Vendor" and "ProdID" values for your wifi device.


I know I'm not straypup but my dongle, also rtl8187b, returns
Code:
Vendor=050d ProdID=705e
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 12:45    Post subject:  
xdelta is very easy to use so i think that would be no problems
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 12:46    Post subject: SCSI-disks missing!  
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tasmod


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 14:47    Post subject:  
As a recent convert I'm puzzled as to why two wm are included in the distro? Please don't slap me down, it just seems odd.

Is it historical? Seems some features are sacrificed to keep it below 100mb.
I know pets can be added.

Would more room be gained for features if it was one wm but two releases. i.e one icewm and one jwm?
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 15:37    Post subject:  
Thanks for the announcement of alpha 3 with seamonkey.
I was on the point, after quite a stay away, to say some nasty Wink things about the absence of SeaMonkey, but all is well now.

Just a question tho.
I have a pup_save of 4.12.
I didn't dare to use/migrate it in alpha 2.
Is it advisable to migrate it to alpha 3 or is it still a bit too early?

However I will do a migration of the alpha 2 pup_save to alpha 3 to test.

In any case a word of praise. The duality JWM/ICEWM is nicely implemented in alpha 2.

Oh yes another thing. Didn't see the alpha 3 yet, but is notecase in again?
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:25    Post subject:  
aragon wrote:
before the feature-freeze, here are some more recommendations:

Thanks, aragon. Cool I picked up most of the smaller ones. I'm trying to leave some room for CUPS, if you guys can get it working on Alpha4 which has no CUPS material installed as requested.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:29    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
ok WhoDo rounded corners added v5 uploaded, Hope everything passes the grade now Smile

I'm sure it will, Jeff! Razz Rounded corners would enhance the look of those excellent task bar buttons, too, but that's for another day! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:32    Post subject:  
aragon wrote:
do we have xdelta in 4.2? it would help to reduce the download size in the future and espacially in beta-phase!

No, it was overlooked. Shocked Pizzasgood is a great devotee of xdelta patches too, so it should be in there. Can you locate a .pet and upload or link please? I'm pressed for time and can't go looking myself or I wouldn't ask. Thanks, aragon. Idea
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:36    Post subject:  
Hi Warren,

This is a bit older but it's what was used to do xdelta for some of the people.

http://puppylinux.ca/members/xdelta/


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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:41    Post subject:  
tasmod wrote:
As a recent convert I'm puzzled as to why two wm are included in the distro? Please don't slap me down, it just seems odd.

Is it historical? Seems some features are sacrificed to keep it below 100mb.
I know pets can be added.

Would more room be gained for features if it was one wm but two releases. i.e one icewm and one jwm?

A fair question, tasmod.

There are historical precedents in Puppy - JWM & Fvwm for example - but that isn't the reason we have two wm's in Puppy-4.2. JWM is not being well maintained; so much so that BarryK is toying with the Puppy community taking it over. OTOH we have about a 50:50 split of users who prefer either JWM or Icewm. Since ttuuxxx's latest Icewm is under 600kb, I figured it was worth giving our users the easy choice in the standard edition.

Icewm suits the themers much better. It is graphically-based and easy to make imitate things like Mac or XP. JWM themes are text-based and it is much harder to make those mimic other looks, but it is very light as a result.

Because of the sizes of both wm's it is WAY easier to build one release with both rather than offer two separate releases. I used to build EZpup to give the Icewm themers a choice, but with Puppy-4.2 that will be pretty much unnecessary and we can supply theme packs in dotpet format instead.

I hope that explains the logic.
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:42    Post subject:  
This is one from tombh..it may be the same xdelta

http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/wNOP/xdelta.pet

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:49    Post subject:  
Béèm wrote:
Oh yes another thing. Didn't see the alpha 3 yet, but is notecase in again?

No notecase is not in Alpha4, but I'm always open to arguments either way. Wink

When you try Alpha4 it would be a good time to do a test upgrade of your pup_save.2fs file as well, but use a COPY to be safe. I have stuck pretty much to the underpinning framework of Puppy-4.1.2 so there should be no real problems, but you never know.

I'm starting to get excited myself. Alpha4 is nearly beta or maybe even RC quality, but we'll see what you guys think after it uploads tonight. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Feb 2009, 17:51    Post subject:  
Caneri wrote:
This is a bit older but it's what was used to do xdelta for some of the people.

Thanks Eric. Cool If no-one puts forward a later version I've downloaded the one you linked for inclusion.

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