Xorg won't but Xvesa will...

[SteveK]

Hello,

I'm having a problem with Xorg. Although Xvesa works, I'd like to get Xorg running. Details are:

Puppy 4.1.2Retro-k2.6.21.7 seamonkey - Running from USB Stick.
Nvidia 6800GS Card.
Acer P193W LCD Monitor - 1440x900 @60Hz.

Originally running the Xorg Wizard (1440x900 and lower) with TEST I got an "Input not supported" message from the monitor and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace locked everything up with some pretty patterns on the screen. The only way out was a hard reset.

I then tried installing the NVIDIA-964301-k2.6.21.7.pet from here with a slightly different result - The monitor was reported as having no pixel resolution with both horizontal and refresh frequencies also of 0. Tweaking made no difference, and strangely the video card is recognised as a 6600GS not 6800GS. At least there was no lock-up this time and I tried various settings with the same result.

If anyone can help, I'd be grateful.

Steve

[MU]

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/L ... dix-a.html

according to that, the 6800 is supported by the 173 driver.
Also by newer drivers:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_disp ... 80.22.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
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If you try the free xorg driver of Puppy, look up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
It should have driver "nv" or driver "vesa", not driver "nvidia".
Mark

[SteveK]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the links. I also thought that my card is supported by this driver (173). I tried the newer driver from your link, but got an error following Nvidia's installation instructions - "unable to find system utility "idconfig"".

As I said before, the built-in driver was worse and I don't have the log from that any longer.

This is the Xorg0.log

_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/puppypc:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
Current Operating System: Linux puppypc 2.6.21.7 #1 Sat Aug 30 18:33:20 GMT-8 2008 i686
Build Date: 28 November 2007
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Feb 6 15:56:14 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Option "RandR" "on"
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x81d4520
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
X.Org Video Driver: 1.2
X.Org XInput driver : 0.7
X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(--) using VT number 3

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,3189 card 1458,5000 rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,b168 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 1106,3038 card 1458,5004 rev 80 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:10:1: chip 1106,3038 card 1458,5004 rev 80 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:10:2: chip 1106,3038 card 1458,5004 rev 80 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:10:3: chip 1106,3104 card 1458,5004 rev 82 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1106,3177 card 1458,5001 rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:11:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1458,5002 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:5: chip 1106,3059 card 1458,a002 rev 50 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:13:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 10ec,8139 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,00f6 card 10b0,0801 rev a2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xeaffffff (0x3000000) MX
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:17:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GS] rev 162, Mem @ 0xe8000000/24, 0xd0000000/28, 0xe9000000/24
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MXE(B)
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0000000 from 0xe7ffffff to 0xdfffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xec006000 - 0xec0060ff (0x100) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0xec005000 - 0xec0050ff (0x100) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[3] -1 0 0xe9000000 - 0xe9ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
[5] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d40f (0x10) IX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000cc1f (0x20) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c81f (0x20) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0xec006000 - 0xec0060ff (0x100) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0xec005000 - 0xec0050ff (0x100) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[3] -1 0 0xe9000000 - 0xe9ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
[5] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[6] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]
[7] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d40f (0x10) IX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000cc1f (0x20) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c81f (0x20) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xec006000 - 0xec0060ff (0x100) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec005000 - 0xec0050ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[7] -1 0 0xe9000000 - 0xe9ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[10] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[12] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d40f (0x10) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000cc1f (0x20) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c81f (0x20) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so
(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.2
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 2.1.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "xtrap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so
(II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module 96.43.01 Wed Sep 5 19:47:01 PDT 2007
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri
(II) UnloadModule: "dri"
(EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.3
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.2.2
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.7
(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 96.43.01 Wed Sep 5 19:14:11 PDT 2007
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"(II) Module already built-in
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xec006000 - 0xec0060ff (0x100) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec005000 - 0xec0050ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[7] -1 0 0xe9000000 - 0xe9ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[10] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[12] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d40f (0x10) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000cc1f (0x20) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c81f (0x20) IX[B]
(II) resource ranges after probing:
[0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0xec006000 - 0xec0060ff (0x100) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec005000 - 0xec0050ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[7] -1 0 0xe9000000 - 0xe9ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe8ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
[10] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
[11] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
[12] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
[13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d40f (0x10) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000cc1f (0x20) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c81f (0x20) IX[B]
[21] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
[22] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
(EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(II) UnloadModule: "fb"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

I see lots of warnings and errors.

Steve

[MU]

it can't load the kernelmodule, as your chip is not supported by the 96 driver.

Without kernelmodule, X refuses to start.
You still had luck - when I run versions not matching my 7050, I just get a black screen, and must reboot with ctrl-alt-del or a hard reset.

ldconfig:
I attach it, extract it to /sbin/.

It is usually included in devx_4xx.sfs.

I first would try the NVIDIA-177.82-k2.6.25.16.pet from:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34001

If the pet still fails, try to use the installer from nvidia.com:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Download it e.g. to /root/.
You also need the devx_412.sfs and the Kernelsource.sfs:
http://puppyisos.org/files/sfs/Puppy-4. ... 16_410.sfs
http://puppyisos.org/files/sfs/Puppy-4. ... fs-md5.txt
(user: puppy, password: linux).
It includes the original Puppy ".config", if I remember well, not the smp version.
So you could use it without changes in a standard Pupppy 4.1x.

Then exit X, and type:
cd /root
chmod 755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run
./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run

If you get an error, that the kernelmodule cannot be compiled, then type:

cd /usr/src/linux
make oldconfig
make modules_prepare

Then run the installer again.
Mark

[MU]

I just see that you use the retro-Puppy:

Current Operating System: Linux puppypc 2.6.21.7 #1 Sat Aug 30 18:33:20 GMT-8 2008 i686

So you need the kernelsource sfs for that kernel of course :
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... modules-4/

Or the pet:
NVIDIA-100.14.19-k2.6.21.7.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22272
There seems to be no newer one, but the 6800 should be supported by it.
But kernel 2.6.21.7 in Puppy 3 was compiled different than in Puppy 4x-retro, so the kernelmodule might not load.
You could check that by typing:
modprobe nvidia

If you get an error concerning unresolved symbols, it is incompatible, and you had to use Nvidias current installer to compile a new one.

This anyway would certainly give best results, as it includes a lot of bugfixes.

Mark

[SteveK]

Hi,

OK I think it's probably best to just try to go ahead with installing the latest Nvidia driver and recompile the kernel.

I have a question though.

I have downloaded devx_412.sfs and kernel-src-2.6.21.7-patched-puppy4.1retro.sfs

What do I do with them?

Steve

[MU]

No, you do not need to recompile the whole kernel.
The nvidia installer needs only the kernel sourcefiles in the sfs.
Like this it can compile the required kernelmodule.
The installer does this automatically.
You place both sfs in /mnt/home/.
Then run from puppys menu the bootmanager.
In it, add them to the list of SFS that shall be loaded at startup.
Then reboot, and use the instructions I posted above to use the nvidia installer.

Mark

[SteveK]

Mark,

Thank you very much for the detailed instructions. Everything worked perfectly and looks beautiful as well.

Steve

[MU]

cool, congratulations
Mark