Puppy 4.2Beta Seamonkey Bugs & Fixes

[ttuuxxx]

think these are links used by Zigbert's icon2desk application but I could be wrong. I believe he is changing them from hard to soft links.

Correct. I guess you've already got the updated script.


Sigmund

You could of picked a background? Blue or white???
I don't want to pick the wrong one and make 3 packages just to do it all again.

also what do you think of libburn, cdrkit, libisofs and replacing Pburns dependencies with them ? From what I've read they produce less errors and work better in general.
ttuuxxx

[Flash]

From Aragon's post here and my post here, I guess that someone's decision to change rxvt's letter color from black to white is causing unanticipated trouble.

[ttuuxxx]

From Aragon's post here and my post here, I guess that someone's decision to change rxvt's letter color from black to white is causing unanticipated trouble.

yes thats true, and I'm trying to fix each application that you can't read, but I'm just wondering on the backgrounds for the applications, did you like the Blue or White that I posted, ?
ttuuxxx

[trapster]

Ok, ok, I'll go first!

I don't like either. Too much contrast hurts my eyes.
My opinion...light gray background, with black font.

[Lobster]

light gray background, with black font

agreed - most readable

[ttuuxxx]

hows this?

[Lobster]

hows this?

Even better . . .

[aragon]

@ whodo

- ADDED 19.02.09: libpng 1.2.35

here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518

@ ttuxxx
it's nice!

aragon

[ttuuxxx]

@ whodo

- ADDED 19.02.09: libpng 1.2.35

here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518

@ ttuxxx
it's nice!

aragon

Thank aragon

I think whodo is using my png, The one I apatched with apng, so firefox3+ users can have animated apng viewing, apng is a new format of png, it doesn't come by default, you have to find a patch and patch the sources first for it to work, then compile , it works a lot nicer than gif images, water actually flows, etc. So I wouldn't upgrade to your version unless you've patched it first.
ttuuxxx

[aragon]

@ whodo

i'm getting a little confused with the packages...

did you allready get mtr-0.75?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=273925

if so, forgive me...

@ whodo + ttuxxx
libpng => use the advanced

aragon

[ttuuxxx]

Added fixed fonts and backgrounds in
-pwget-0.1-2-1.pet
-Pawdioconverter-1.2-v1.pet
located on Page 1 of this thread

[zigbert]

also what do you think of libburn, cdrkit, libisofs and replacing Pburns dependencies with them ? From what I've read they produce less errors and work better in general.

ttuuxxx
Puppy includes today cdrkit (794kb). Cdrkit is a fork of cdrtools maintained by debian. Barry replaced cdrtools with cdrkit during the development of Puppy4. It fixed some issues like cddb info. It could be that libburn is more stable than cdrkit, I don't know. What is the weak sides of cdrkit?

Changing Pburns dependency to libburn won't help mush in the big picture. A quick brainstorm of Puppy apps using cdrkit are:
- Puppy core (multisession handling)
- Pdvdrsab
- Pbackup
- Remaster script
- Pcdripper (optional)
- Pburn

Your Xfburn package are impressive, but your comparison of dependecies are a bit out of line (Xfburn 500kb and Pburn 2.3mb). Pburn mostly uses Puppy builtin packages. The only additions are vcdimager (72kb) and normalize (26kb). Pburn itself is 64kb.

When better alternatives shows up, we should switch to those, but in most cases, there is no need to rush. In this case, Xfburn is a newcomer, and should get time to grow up first. Compared to Pburn it lack features as:
- Burning Video DVD/CD
- Copy disc
- Support of blu-ray
- Verfying
- Md5sum
- Normalizing audio


Sigmund

[jcoder24]

Providing a smp enable puppy is relatively simple and could be provided as a xdelta package. I did a test a while back and I think my xdelta (to convert a standard puppy to smp) was around 18M. The complete iso with smp was surprisingly smaller by a few MBs (maybe some modules were missing).

The biggest issue would be producing a devx and providing extra kernel modules for it like kqemu, lirc, vmplayer etc.


As for gnumeric, I find that I use spreadsheets more often than word-processors. In fact I prefer to use gnumeric rather than a calculator.

[rcrsn51]

I did a test of Xfburn and found that it did not work properly on my 800x600 Xvesa screen.

[WhoDo]

i'm getting a little confused with the packages...

did you allready get mtr-0.75?

You're getting confused?! I've got three prolific packagers all producing newer versions quicker than I can download them!

Yes, aragon. I already have mtr-0.75 thank you.

[WhoDo]

Aesthetics. Looks ok on LCD display. Haven't checked on CRT yet.

sorry, no aesthetics, bad eyes. if you change it to the little lighter blue of the 'other' text it would be ok.

Ok, ok, I'll have a look when I get the chance.

Ok, I've had a look. Here is where the text color is being set for the boot screen. (boot.msg)

Code: Select all

logo.16
                                   0f4.2 Alpha0b

For a list of boot options, press the <F2> key.
Puppy will boot automatically in 5 seconds...

Pizzasgood gives a good explanation of what to change to fix your problem. The relevant hex codes are either side of the 4.2 Alpha text in the above example. I suggest you play with it on your own install and then let me know what colours work best for you. Note that they will have to be colours from the palette of the included image as PG explains.

The colors in those files are defined by the 'SI'-looking symbols. The first letter after one of those is a hexidecimal digit (0-9,a-f) and defines the background color. The second letter is for the forground. Normally they set the normal colors you'd see in a 16-color terminal environment, but when an image has been loaded they'll get the colors from that image's pallet instead. So on the boot.msg screen, all text is some shade of blue. On the help.msg screen, there is no image, so they're normal.

Hope that helps

[aragon]

You're getting confused?!

i see your point but sorry, NO MERCY

aragon

[ttuuxxx]

Hey WhoDO

I've been working on the icewm package, To start with I reduced all my themes in size, the largest is 95kb LOL, I had to remove your theme because it was too large weighing in at 289kb when you add up my themes the size is 315kb for 7 themes, yes 7 themes including a new one I made last night called 'Sand' its a light theme,lol and when compress the themes directory into a pet its 79kb, and when we compress your 1 theme its 77kb, do you see where I'm going with this?
I remade 3 of my themes out of system links and 3 or 4 images, the smallest theme, probably the smallest theme ever for icewm is, 8192B
and the other one is 10kb linked to Odelite. So my updated icewm package will be a lot smaller, I might make one or 2 more linked themes before repackaging it, Hows that sound? I'll look at the icewm themes and try to find a few light ones where I'll reuse a few images.
ttuuxxx
Can you believe 'Sand' is so small and System linked on Odelite???

[ttuuxxx]

Now its 7 themes at a total of 79kb compressed pet.
updated above
ttuuxxx

[Flash]

some more bugs:
- using pwget rxvt-output is 'not' readable (no aesthetics;-) )

pwget is Lobster's creation. I have no idea why the call to rxvt is producing white-on-white with wget. Sorry.

All I have to say to that statement 'Lightbulb goes off'
WhoDo you are the one to blame for this error and also Pawdioconverter, woooooo I can see the clock wheels spinning now, lol ok I'll stop being pricky now, (long day with the wife, )
The problem is when you changed the background on rxvt from white to black, some programs like rxvt and pawdioconverter were only using half of rxvt default settings,
pawdioconverter had a light orange default background with a black rxvt text colour, which looked great when it was developed but they never figured WhoDo whould go and change the font colour to white on light orange, hence nono #1,lol
nono#2 lobster and his creation he sets the background to almost white colour and uses rxvt's default black, and once again WhoDo colour change to white font, messed that up also.

So when you say WhoDO 'I have no idea why the call to rxvt is producing white-on-white with wget. Sorry. ' Really the lightbulb hasn't been turned on , or has it now? Lol ttuuxxx
Sorry WhoDo it was fun, I like it when ever its not just me with a blond moment.
I also fixed pwget, But I might spend a bit more time on both of them and see if I can change the font permanently.
ttuuxxx

Ttuuxxx, if you change all the applications that use rxvt's default text color, then I go and change rxvt's text color to black and the background to white so I can read it, how's that going to mess up what you did?

Perhaps an easier solution would be to leave those applications alone and instead make it easy to change rxvt's text and background colors, for instance from an entry in the System or Utility part of the main menu. Just open the rxvt color menu, choose a color for the text and one for the background, and walla, problem solved.

By the way, I tinkered with the background color a bit after you said where the setting is. I tried "light blue" and it worked. Is there a list somewhere of the color commands that rxvt will recognize?