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Candidates for inclusion in Puppy 4.2 Unleashed

#1 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

I sure hope these candidates haven't missed the filing deadline for this election . . . . If they haven't, I think they should be found worthy of seats in the House of Commons (I mean, Puppy 4.2 Unleashed), even though presumably they won't fit into the House of Lords (I mean, Puppy 4.2 final). Anyone else who wants to propose candidates for inclusion should probably speak up right about now!

gnocl-DOC-0.9.92 (http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mccla ... 0.9.92.pet): Companion to gnocl-0.9.92, which I hope can be squeezed into Puppy 4.2 as a version upgrade. If elected, this candidate will show and tell programmers how to use Gnocl to combine the ease and instant results of Tcl/Tk scripting with the good looks of GTK+ 2.0 or greater. This candidate should replace the incumbent (gnocl-DOC-0.9.91 from Puppy 3.x Unleashed) because it not only describes important new features of Gnocl 0.9.92, but it also has vastly improved and updated screenshots featuring my new Clearlooks themes and favorite IceWM window decorations. :D

NtEd 1.4.15 musical score editor (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 842#252842):
If elected, this candidate will give users a WYSIWYG "music processor" that produces pages on the screen that are identical to what you can export to PostScript/PDF, print on paper, etc. Plus, if you have TiMidity++ installed and your sound properly configured, you can easily play any music that appears in an NtEd score, including one imported from a MIDI file (NtEd does the import pretty quickly, and often pretty well). This candidate is part of a slate that also includes TiMidity++ 2.13 (http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mccla ... 3.2-tk.pet), MIDI player/file converter, and eawpatches 1.0 (http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mccla ... er-8.0.pet: This candidate is far too fat to fit through the door of the House of Lords, but can be relied upon to maintain greater dignity and decorum in the House of Commons than your average back-bench member, to say nothing of what detractions from dignity and decorum the equally fat G.K. Chesterton would likely have perpetrated in his time, had he been elected to office. If elected, this candidate promises to display and print, with perfect propriety, every PDF file that can possibly be displayed and printed. (Testimonial: ePDFview is a pretty good little PDF viewer, but it didn't properly print every page of some musical scores I got from the Choral Public Domain Library (http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page). Adobe Reader did.)

Free Classic Fonts (http://puppylinux.asia/members/pa_mccla ... ts-1.0.pet): If elected, this candidate will give users a good selection of free fonts, none of which are too weird for words:

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At least one more candidate is racing to meet the filing deadline: more_icewm_themes-420. This candidate still needs some touching up as far as existence is concerned, but promises to (1) exist and (2) give the user about 2 MB (compressed) full of (IMHO) great-looking IceWM themes, including the ones I still have to get done.

Anyone else with a candidate for inclusion must be sure to propose the candidate on or before the filing deadline! (Um, by the way . . . when is the filing deadline, anyway?)

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#2 Post by ttuuxxx »

Isn't your adobe reader like 47MB, who would want something like that to read a pdf? Thats way too big. The other things look good :) but 47MB wow, ouch
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#3 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ttuuxxx wrote:Isn't your adobe reader like 47MB, who would want something like that to read a pdf? Thats way too big. The other things look good :) but 47MB wow, ouch
Yes, 47 MB is pretty big by Puppy standards, but ePDFview didn't do everything I needed done. Quick, tell me about a PDF reader that doesn't take up 47 MB compressed and will do everything of importance that Abode Reader will do (if there is one).
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pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Isn't your adobe reader like 47MB, who would want something like that to read a pdf? Thats way too big. The other things look good :) but 47MB wow, ouch
Yes, 47 MB is pretty big by Puppy standards, but ePDFview didn't do everything I needed done. Quick, tell me about a PDF reader that doesn't take up 47 MB compressed and will do everything of importance that Abode Reader will do (if there is one).
epdfview does everything thing I need, it opens and reads pdfs, hey a smaller and far better way is get the latest wine around 18MB. Then install adobe reader 6.0, which does the same as the latest bloated version, http://www.oldapps.com/adobe_reader.php?old_reader=18
that will give you around 25.6 MB roughly 22MB saving and yes it still can use passwords. Acrobat must be the biggest bloated single application known to man, The first version which opened ummmm pdf files was like 1MB the last version which yes still only opens pdf files is like 50MB. If pdf's are so unsecured why the heck do we even support them, Actually tell you the truth I would use foxit, pdf viewer over adobe any day. 3.69MB for windows.
We have a old version of OpenOffice in the repo for 2 series that is 44MB, doesn't that open pdf files, and something like that is worth 44MB.
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#5 Post by ttuuxxx »

Have you tried Foxit Viewer, I found out that there is a linux version, I always used Foxit on windows due to size difference, Its only 1.8MB pet here's a link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 262#278262

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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#6 Post by showdownmetal »

yes!!!! nted!!!! im a music performance major with a minor in production, and i have to say, that is a must have for me... the laptop im currently running has no hard drive so i run from a puppy live cd and save everything to a flashdrive. having nted preinstalled would make life really easy. please keep it for the final!!!

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There are two web sites that we may want to let people use to download items if we can make it Puppy Frendly for them:
Fonts: http://www.openfontlibrary.org/
Clipart: http://www.openclipart.org/

For business users programs like:
Open Project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/
Scribus Desktop Publishing: http://www.scribus.net/

And data like:
Open Street Map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/

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#8 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

showdownmetal wrote:yes!!!! nted!!!! im a music performance major with a minor in production, and i have to say, that is a must have for me... the laptop im currently running has no hard drive so i run from a puppy live cd and save everything to a flashdrive. having nted preinstalled would make life really easy. please keep it for the final!!!
I don't think NtEd will be preinstalled in Puppy 4.2, but if you've got a pup_save file on the flash drive it should be just as easy for you to install NtEd, Timidity++, and eawpatches on the flash drive as it was for me to install them in pup_save on my hard drive. As far as I know, this is the best combination for music composition and playback on Puppy in terms of compactness and ease of use--I really hope all these packages will get into the next version of Puppy Unleashed, even if it's too late for 4.2!
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Re: Candidates for inclusion in Puppy 4.2 Unleashed

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pa_mcclamrock wrote:Anyone else with a candidate for inclusion must be sure to propose the candidate on or before the filing deadline! (Um, by the way . . . when is the filing deadline, anyway?)
If you don't know then you've probably missed it! :P

We're on the home stretch. I'm looking to get the major tasks before Final out of the way this weekend, and I may release RC2 later today as well.

In the meantime I have to build 0pkgs_db-4.20, resolve some niggling wireless issues, sort out icon themes so they don't trash the menus or get mixed in together when changed, finalise packages.txt to take account of a couple of late inclusions (CUPS, Icewm, Pwidgets), and do a general cleanup of the menu systems' .desktop files among other things before building the dotpets for uploading to ibiblio.org for mirroring.

gnocl-DOC-0.9.92.pet is in, and I'm also considering the Font's package, but everything else will have to wait I'm afraid. Some things just don't belong in the official Unleashed tree and I don't want to overload Barry's account at ibiblio.org with stuff that has less than widespread appeal.

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#10 Post by technosaurus »

Feel free to continue posting packages here - I will add the best of the best to the Web Desktop
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].

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#11 Post by scheck.r »

Hello,

I tries out 4.2RC2 and was really impressed. I noticed that Gnumeric was updated to 1.8.4 but not abiword still at version 2.6.3.
Can we update abiword to version 2.6.7 and include the patch to get subscript shortcut key ?
Many bugs were fixed since then, icons toolbar were rearranged, memory leaks were fixed, better import/export filters

Patch:
In abiword-2.6.7/src/wp/ap/xp/ap_LB_Default
Line 481 should look like this
{0x2c, /* , */ { "insertData", "toggleSub", "", "" }},

Many thanks

Congratulations for the great work

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