Why does Firefox 3.06 keep crashing on Puppy Linux 4.1?

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mikeb · #31 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 17 Mar 2009, 18:39

Ok feedback time after my usual unscientific testing.

Found a repeatable crash on firefox 3.0.7 from mozilla...flash 10.0.15...puppy 4.12
Basically involved browsing back between videos on you tube....kill and restart same session gave the same freeze.

Dropped in your glib 1.800 libs (no libgio) , restarted firefox...no freeze...continued to abuse it on you tube with no hiccups.
In fact the whole performance was much snappier on my 700mhz machine...with the old glibc was like wading through custard.
Definatly seems like a good fix for now...I will install this setup for the family to test out

mike

tazoc · #32 Post by **tazoc** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 05:16

Techtype found this one: Open http://my.yahoo.com and move your pointer to a news link, hold to activate the javascript, then up and down a few more links and then away. Crashes every time for me. I'm using Lighthouse 4.1.2-b5.

I tried the glib-2.18.4-i486 unzipping into / the tar.gz posted earlier. Still crashing but not sure if I did it correctly. Firefox 3.0.7 and 3.1beta3 also crash. I understand FF 2.x does not exhibit this behavior but I prefer the latest versions.

I haven't tried it in Puppy 4.1.2 yet, but I did try a clean install of Firefox 3 in Newyearspup 02. It does not crash--rock solid.
-TazOC

drummachine · #33 Post by **drummachine** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 08:13

@tazoc

try the first pet.

mikeb · #34 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 14:21

I tried the glib-2.18.4-i486 unzipping into / the tar.gz posted earlier. Still crashing but not sure if I did it correctly.

Well the theory that is forming is that a joyous combination of ff / gtk / glib / flash brings forth stability so using glib 1.800 on 4.12 helps in that case only so your test seems to support that. I suspect good ol seamonkey fares better as version matching/compilation (in puppy ) is better .

So perhaps when offering say a firefox(or seamonkey) pet it should be a full , stable combination for particular puppy version(s)...packages are usually a case of app plus needed dependancies which in this case does not guarantee stability in itself

I noticed opera has been supplied as an all in one compilation with built in qt which may contribute quite heavily for its reputation for stability.

mike

tazoc · #35 Post by **tazoc** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 20:44

@drummachine,
Thank you for the pet. I tried the first one, installed fine, but FF still crashes on my.yahoo.com. Thought maybe it was because of LighthousePup, so I switched to a clean frugal install of Puppy 4.1.2 and FF 3.0.7, with no SFS files. Installed your first pet and rebooted. FF still crashes. The only thing that prevents the crashing is to disable Javascript in FF Preferences | Content.

In a terminal:

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# cd /usr/lib/firefox
# ./firefox
/usr/lib/firefox/crashreporter: error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Should I try installing gtk+-2.12.1 with PetGet?

@mikeb,
Yes SeaMonkey and Opera are stable for me. I may try the SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 3 to see if the addons I use with FF will work.
-TazOC

mikeb · #36 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 23:52

error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4

now there's a novelty. I wonder what's calling that...I assume the console output is from the javascript crash rather than initial launch.

ff 3.07...from mozilla tar.bz2?

I tested without including libgio....and full install, though aufs usually behaves better than union in that respect.....just trying to find differences

mike

drummachine · #37 Post by **drummachine** » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 01:06

@ tazoc

tried my.yahoo.com and had also crashes.
Had to update complete gtk-core to stop it crashing.
You can try this:

For Puppy 4.1x:
gtk-core-update

For Puppy 4.2 (without libjasper dependency):
gtk-core-update-p42

ONLY FOR TESTING PURPOSES!!

(contains glib-2.18.4, pango-1.22.4, pixman-0.14.0, cairo-1.8.6, gtk+-2.14.7)

UPDATE 26. March 2009: smaller pet (dropped the large unnecessary locales folder)

UPDATE 02. April 2009: updated libpangocairo was missing

And the development part (for the sake of completeness):
gtk-core-update-dev

I use this update on a full install since 2 weeks without any problems!!!!

HyerMan · #38 Post by **HyerMan** » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 17:15

I never thought this thread would grow like this. I would contribute more if I was experienced with compiling things on Linux (I guess I'll have to learn).

One thing that almost always causes a crash on FF (and on Bon Echo) is when there is video or something that will cause gxine 0.5.9 to launch. My daughter on facebook will actually get puppy to crash that way.

In reading through this thread it has become clear to me that THE key app for puppy to have work great is Firefox. The number one thing that people do with a computer is surf the web. The browsers are continuing to compete and improve. Sites are taking advantage of the latest scripting and media features. FF is really the standard bearer. Notice how IE8 is going to match the standard. I think there is value in supporting the latest web browser features even if it impacts the size of puppy. At least have a fatpuppy version that has a rock solid browsing experience.

Just my 2 cents. I guess I need to learn how to compile FF in order to contribute more.

tazoc · #39 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 22:27

@drummachine,
Yes, gtk-core-update.pet works! Amazing!

It works in LighthousePup as well as Puppy 4.1.2. If this proves stable I think many FF users will appreciate it.

I extracted the pet after testing it and I'm wondering if removing the gtk.desktop and the big locale folder (inside the pet, not Puppy) would be a problem. Can't resist trying to prune it for Lighthouse...

Well done!
-TazOC

mikeb · #40 Post by **mikeb** » Sat 21 Mar 2009, 22:46

One thing that almost always causes a crash on FF (and on Bon Echo) is when there is video or something that will cause gxine 0.5.9 to launch.

Yep I wold confirm that gxine plugin and firefox don't love each other...I simply removed it. I wonder if the gtk/glib update would help with that. Otherwise the mediaplayer connectivity extension does basically the same function.

mike

jkasten · #41 Post by **jkasten** » Thu 26 Mar 2009, 05:36

Thanks drummachine for the gtk-core-update.pet file. It fixed my problem with facebook crashing in firefox 3.0.7 when entering anything in the search box in facebook. I was wondering if anyone knows why the text in the menu and URL on looks like kinda of smashed together in the firefox GUI. For example on the History in the menu the H and i are touching. Kinda reminds me of what happens when you have a an lcd monitor not in native resolution with no sub-pixel settings like clear type in windows turned on.

drummachine · #42 Post by **drummachine** » Thu 26 Mar 2009, 22:27

you can set a gtk-system-font inside puppy with the "gtk theme chooser".
The menu and URL fonts in Firefox 3 will look much better afterwards.

#43 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 15:01

missing libjasper.so.1 in puppy 4.2 when installed your latest version.
Please provide the package if possible with dev's.
ttuuxxx

#44 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 15:19

still runs slow with FF 3.0.6 with 4,2 using your latest package. Sorry

try this page and move your scrollbars up and down
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox
works perfect in dpup.
ttuuxxx

big_bass · #45 Post by **big_bass** » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 16:22

HyerMan
At least have a fatpuppy version that has a rock solid browsing experience.

My main focus is stability
I don't care about new version numbers I stick to what works
I can't aford to lose time and work caused by a browser crash
since the browser gets heavily abused by me everyday

don't upgrade to firefox 3.00 when it asks for an update

I built this one
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/big_bass/firef ... .124.0.pet

just a note: even on Slackware (with full lib packages )firefox 3+ has problems after it upgrades

there are other options
pick the one that works

big_bass

#46 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 17:19

big_bass wrote:
HyerMan
At least have a fatpuppy version that has a rock solid browsing experience.

My main focus is stability
I don't care about new version numbers I stick to what works
I can't aford to lose time and work caused by a browser crash
since the browser gets heavily abused by me everyday

don't upgrade to firefox 3.00 when it asks for an update

I built this one
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/big_bass/firef ... .124.0.pet

just a note: even on Slackware (with full lib packages )firefox 3+ has problems after it upgrades

there are other options
pick the one that works

big_bass

Yes I agree with that fully,

Like FirePup on series 4.0+

or ff3 on Dpup
ttuuxxx

big_bass · #47 Post by **big_bass** » Thu 02 Apr 2009, 18:30

ttuuxxx

good to hear that firefox3+
works on a Debian base

I am working on a "build" so I'll be busy for quite ahwile
*won't have time to mess with the latest firefox 3+*
and like I said above I only care to have a solid system
at this point in time I don't even care about the final size
of the ISO

just want it solid

that means there is something on the Debiian base that is needed
for puppy and slackware

the bad part is when firefox version 3+
crashes it does a total lock up frozen solid
which makes it more difficult to debug

big_bass

#48 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 07:21

FF3 runs just as fast as FirePup on Debian/Dpup, very responsive. Thats the real reason why I'm working with Dpup now, because Firefox is the most sought after browser, and not to be able to offer the latest version is somewhat DSL job,lol not puppy

But I still like Firepup the best

But at least I'll be able to make a new version for Dpup

Thats the best part where as with series 4 I was really stick with 1.5 or 2 series which are basically the same minus spellcheck, but I managed to get that working in 1.5

ttuuxxx

Colonel Panic · #49 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 14:21

This probably needs a new thread, but has anyone tried using Flock in Puppy? It's based on Firefox but with a few extras built in to make blogging, sharing photos online etc. easier. Looks quite attractive too IMO.

#50 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 14:40

Colonel Panic wrote:This probably needs a new thread, but has anyone tried using Flock in Puppy? It's based on Firefox but with a few extras built in to make blogging, sharing photos online etc. easier. Looks quite attractive too IMO.

Yes I've tried flock in the past, same with icecat, iceweasel. etc Its just that puppy is missing something or there's a bug in a library it was also a gradual thing, The first firepup I built was on 1.0 and then the regular based on 1.5, when series 2.0 came out everybody noticed a bit of a slowdown, then with each FF release it was slower and slower and slower, Finally series 3 was released and even when I compiled on puppy a couple of times, even tried the latest glib,gtk, cario, pango, and then compiled it, and it still was the slowest version yet. Thats when I gave up on compiling it, until dpup happened and I tried Iceweasel which is FF 3.0.6 that ran perfect. I then tried it on puppy, it said not missing anything and I also had that update from this thread installed, and once again it was a crap version, Its just series 4.0 just doesn't work right with FF3.
ttuuxxx
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Why does Firefox 3.06 keep crashing on Puppy Linux 4.1?

Firefox 3.07 crashes on my.yahoo.com

thanks drummachine