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ttuuxxx wrote:hey WhoDo this is one for your personal notes about abiword, out of the box Barry's included these extra plugins
libAbiAikSaurus.so
libAbiAikSaurus.so.0
libAbiGrammar.so
libAbiPalmDoc.so
libAbiScriptHappy.so
Thats what I get when I compared the plugins you showed me and what puppy can provide without any extra packages,
Plus this version will have openXML, which I didn't see on your list and a couple extra, too bad we did have more space I compiled the microsoft works but didn't install it, I just wanted see the size of the library, it was 4400kb lib then I stripped it and it ended up around 450kb,lol thats not bad to support all all versions of microsoft works. Anyways it won't be a part of the package, same with WordPerfect is another set which could of been handy, oh well off to find these missing libs and trying to figure out that image thing, must be a missing plugin.

That image crash isn't there in 2.6.6, but there are a couple of other "glitches".

• In either version the spellcheck doesn't work, despite the presence of an appropriate dictionary (at 2.1Mb approx).
• Clipart is there but can't be accessed from the clipart manager. You can get to it manually through Rox but that's not the point.
• Pressing the "Add plugin" button with no plug-ins in window crashes whole program

Otherwise the newer version performs better than the old. Certainly the image > right click crash is gone from this compile.

Cheers

in rc1 I was able to download and install this plug in
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1568

rc2 I get the message Install script not found
what has changed?

trio wrote:Just reminding you of this..maybe you put the "theme-switcher" fix..but not along with blinkydelayed line in .jwmrc-tray? ... I am not using rc2 ...you know..cannot get my wireless to work correctly (even with rc1 pup_save)...I'll wait for rc3 instead..

I can't repeat Rob's problem. blinkydelayed line (with -bg parameter) is definitely in .jwmrc-tray in RC2. Blinky is sometimes a bit slow to reappear, but always does even after a change of theme (JWM or Gtk) and a change of desktop configuration.

I'm pretty sure that the wireless problems are solved in RC3, so your Puppy experience should be a whole lot better, trio.

Lobster wrote:in rc1 I was able to download and install this plug in
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/1568

rc2 I get the message Install script not found
what has changed?

Is this a clean install or are you trying to update with an existing pup_save.2fs file? I have noticed that aufs doesn't like to overwrite a file if it is the same name, regardless of content. For that reason, in all later builds from Unleashed, I've had to delete the entire rootfs-complete directory before running createpuppy, just to be sure there were no "leftovers". Maybe you got a good leftover?

WhoDo wrote:

ttuuxxx wrote:hey WhoDo this is one for your personal notes about abiword, out of the box Barry's included these extra plugins
libAbiAikSaurus.so
libAbiAikSaurus.so.0
libAbiGrammar.so
libAbiPalmDoc.so
libAbiScriptHappy.so
Thats what I get when I compared the plugins you showed me and what puppy can provide without any extra packages,
Plus this version will have openXML, which I didn't see on your list and a couple extra, too bad we did have more space I compiled the microsoft works but didn't install it, I just wanted see the size of the library, it was 4400kb lib then I stripped it and it ended up around 450kb,lol thats not bad to support all all versions of microsoft works. Anyways it won't be a part of the package, same with WordPerfect is another set which could of been handy, oh well off to find these missing libs and trying to figure out that image thing, must be a missing plugin.

That image crash isn't there in 2.6.6, but there are a couple of other "glitches".

• In either version the spellcheck doesn't work, despite the presence of an appropriate dictionary (at 2.1Mb approx).
• Clipart is there but can't be accessed from the clipart manager. You can get to it manually through Rox but that's not the point.
• Pressing the "Add plugin" button with no plug-ins in window crashes whole program

Otherwise the newer version performs better than the old. Certainly the image > right click crash is gone from this compile.

Cheers

Its probably crashing when you click plugins because it doesn't have any plugins yet also aiksaurus in puppy by default, if so I made the package a bit smaller, but found out something about it:)
its a working gtk English language thesaurus, thats installed in puppy and we don't have a menu .desktop for??
you can run it by clicking /usr/bin/gaiksaurus
or open a prompt and type
gaiksaurus
When I package it up, I'll add .desktop file so it can be ran from the menu, like it should be. How strange to overlook something like that. The gtk bin file I have stripped to 7bk extracted so no since and deleting the bin. I removed the commandline ones.
ttuuxxx

Is this a clean install or are you trying to update with an existing pup_save.2fs file?

It is an update - that could well be the problem.

The other day the forum was unavailable for several hours.
Because of that and as we move into rc3
and to allow real time chat I have set up a Deep Thought Chat room

http://www.chatmaker.net/chatap/rooms/DeepThought/

WhoDo spell checking works in my version you just have to enable it
/Edit/Preferences/Spell Checking and tick 'check spelling as you type'
then try it, works fine
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx wrote:WhoDo spell checking works in my version you just have to enable it
/Edit/Preferences/Spell Checking and tick 'check spelling as you type'
then try it, works fine

BTDT, ttuuxxx. No joy. Even downloading a new dictionary and installing makes no difference. Appropriate preferences are selected but spell check icon on toolbar remains inoperative and spell as you go doesn't. All of my tests are on a brand new RC version with no pup_save file to be sure there are no cross-contaminations. I even went back and rebuilt Abiword with the old spell checker added. Nada.

WhoDo wrote:

ttuuxxx wrote:WhoDo spell checking works in my version you just have to enable it
/Edit/Preferences/Spell Checking and tick 'check spelling as you type'
then try it, works fine

BTDT, ttuuxxx. No joy. Even downloading a new dictionary and installing makes no difference. Appropriate preferences are selected but spell check icon on toolbar remains inoperative and spell as you go doesn't. All of my tests are on a brand new RC version with no pup_save file to be sure there are no cross-contaminations. I even went back and rebuilt Abiword with the old spell checker added. Nada.

Its working fine on my system, did you install the version I compiled and added the other addon package?
I can give you a screenshot

If you don't rush to rc3 I'll have it working out of the box Like below
ttuuxxx

Booted rc2, from the CD, changed preferences for "check spelling as you type..."

Works....

Personally should be the default, my opinion, as a notorious bad speller.

))

SeaMonkey has spell checking for quite some time now.
Works out of the box in rc2.
I can load other language modules when needed.
(For my purpose, Dutch, French and German)

Good
Gxine browser plugin from a link in Seamonkey works fine

There is a show desktop icon just to the right of the "menu/Puppy 4.2" button in both jwm and icewm

Less good

Clicking on a playlist (on my Samba LAN disk) at /mnt/network/MAPOWER-NAS/Music_mp3/Abba/Arrival/playlist.m3u opens Alsaplayer but nothing happens with "no stream" indicated in the players title bar.

Using "Open with" from Rox, gxine also does not work on my playlist (see screen shot attachment)

My playlist looks like:

When I Kissed The Teacher.mp3
Dancing Queen.mp3
etc .i.e. no path in the m3u file (as I play these from more than computer and OS)

So I installed bmp-0.9.7.1.pet as I use this in 4.1.2 and this still works fine with 4.2RC2 with my same playlist with no paths on my Samba LAN disk. Maybe something still could be optimised with gxine's mimes?

As a side line the final dialogue on on the bmp-0.9.7.1.pet installation looks like this!

See screen shot attachment

It looks to me like it reports its in multiple JWM submenus although its actually only under Multimedia.

Oh no! Just noticed the Eee's fan is not working (wondered why my lap was getting hot). CPU temperature has shot up to 66C. So will have to abandon testing.unfortunately. Pity I was just getting going. Guess I need all those pets from tempestuous 's thread "Extra drivers for Puppy 4.1 with 2.6.25.16 kernel"

Mike

On my p3 900 MHz 256MB thinkpad t22, the pwidgets program makes the Puppy 4.2 desktop significantly less responsive. and the responsive desktop is the thing I have always loved about Puppy. Am I right that it is entirely deactivated with no processes left running by Menu -> Desktop -> pwidgets and removing all 4 items?

I would also like to cleanly remove ptray. I had some trouble and I think I had to restart the X server to get it to go away. What is the procedure for deactivating it cleanly with no processes left running. Will the option Hide tray in Menu -> Desktop -> ptray utility bar do that or does that leave something running? Is there a distinct process that is responsible for ptray?

Another reason for removing the pwidgets is that only the pwidgets wallpaper looks good with the widgets running; with any other wallpaper the widgets all have a gray rectangular background around them. Is that right???

thanks.

It would be really nice if someone can modify Pmount or MUT to allow for read-only mounting of partitions.
It's very useful for safe mounting of NTFS or UDF partitions/media where you don't want to modify anything.

Hey WhoDo I have the Abiword Plugins compiled, What a mess of packages, Goffice still doesn't show up for some odd reason, never the less it doesn't matter, I used the goffice-dev from the repo, which by the way is useless because the dev's are cutback way too much, so I went to compile the latest and well thats no good either because it now uses gio as a dependence, plus 3 other packages that are outdate on puppy, it would of really bloated up, so then I downloaded the same version as puppy and compiled that one, Which compiled fine but still didn't find it, but anyways I managed to trim it down somewhat so that a bonus, around 200k expanded but every bit counts
Anyways I needed libBoost to compile the plugins, wow what a big set of libraries that is. 81MB expanded, I haven't compressed it yet, did you want it for the repo? If so I'll upload it, took about 30mins to compile. Its handy for the packagers. I didn't bother with jam.
Ok now for the goodstuff
I managed to strip the plugins and now the abiword plugins is 715kb pet. 2832kb expanded and now when you open abiword and select plugins it doesn't crash. caugh caugh like I figure:) lol
I'll upload in a bit once I figure out everything. But overall it should be a good savings in size compared to using goffice 7.0, plus added libs etc. Plus stabler and with the added extra bonus of OpenXml
ttuuxxx

Update
made it smaller now 715kb, I could of saved another 32kb by deleting the glade xsl stuff, like Barry has in the past, but I think its needed.
could lead to making it unstable? anyone have a clue on it?

playdayz wrote: Another reason for removing the pwidgets is that only the pwidgets wallpaper looks good with the widgets running; with any other wallpaper the widgets all have a gray rectangular background around them. Is that right???

thanks.

1. Remove show_widgets from /root/startup to turn off pwidgets
2. Update your wallpaper setter - link in main post of pwidgets thread (I forget the link)
3. DO NOT SAY "remove", if you want to remove it from your system, please do. Your opinion is NOT always the SAME with others..Ok?

@ trio,

3. DO NOT SAY "remove", if you want to remove it from your system, please do. Your opinion is NOT always the SAME with others..Ok?

Oh, excuse me, I must have mistakenly thought this thread was devoted to feedback on Puppy 4.2 rc2.

playdayz wrote:@ trio,

3. DO NOT SAY "remove", if you want to remove it from your system, please do. Your opinion is NOT always the SAME with others..Ok?

Oh, excuse me, I must have mistakenly thought this thread was devoted to feedback on Puppy 4.2 rc2.

feedback? please do...asking how to turn off is ok...but removing? hmmm...you must know what I meant..anyway..if you feel differently than what I meant...up to you..

playdayz wrote:@ trio,

3. DO NOT SAY "remove", if you want to remove it from your system, please do. Your opinion is NOT always the SAME with others..Ok?

Oh, excuse me, I must have mistakenly thought this thread was devoted to feedback on Puppy 4.2 rc2.

I'm kind of with you on that one Playdayz, I would like to see pwidgets as a addon pet package, maybe included with a puppy pin icon link to the desktop, so you click the link it opens a pet , install conky, fixmenus, pwidgets, etc. and if a user don't want all that stuff installed they could delete the pet and be done with it all. I never liked any system monitor, conky etc, it was nice for about 5 minutes but after that I didn't have any use for it, I never look at the desktop, and to have so many extra things running in the background, making tons of extra links, man I would be happy with 4.12 with the 2 Window managers, new icon themes, and thats it as bling goes, actually It wouldn't bug me if JWM took a one way ride out the door also
ttuuxxx

And don't tell me it can't be done as pet, I was the first to make the devx compiler as a pet, for like puppy series 3,4, if you can make that as a pet and it works then you can do that with anything.
ttuuxxx