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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 10:08    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
pa_mcclamrock wrote:
Here's a little Tcl/Gnocl script to improve the looks (if you don't like purple, just substitute another GTK+ theme) and let the user select the exact number of seconds to wait.

I love it, pa ... well ... NOT the purple, but the script. I'll add it to RC3/Final. Thanks. Cool


Yes I don't like the purple/pink sorry, PA I'm more for black, grey, orange, more manly colours, The script on the other hand is really nice, I do like the new one already included in mtpaint, and if its replaced, I think it should be archived, in the repo, well If we due away with tcl/tk in the future like before scripts like the one we are now using will be lost, always handy to have around. even if it was a simple one, it was a good idea, and worked perfectly. Plus it gives a nice example how to script for new comers.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 10:13    Post subject:  

Cups working with my wireless HP6180. I chose the HP PhotoSmart 7150 driver and the test page printed fine. (socket://192.168.1.107)
Can I finally dump my HP6180 .ppd file and wireless driver for ndiswrapper?
YES!!!!!
Great work!

- Now, how do I get rid of this annoying mouse shadow?
- What window is the cups configuration using. I don't have right clicking options in it?
- BTW...Osmo does list the moon phases.
- Menu>Secure ssh telnet: "File not found" when using the "Help" button.
- Menu>System>Conky system monitor: Sits on top of Pwidgets when started. No easy way to shut it off for the noobie. killall conky didn't seem to help pwidgets much.
- Great job on streamtuner, But...shouldn't we include streamripper if it's an option in streamtuner? Or, get rid of the button?

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 10:13    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
pa_mcclamrock wrote:
Here's a little Tcl/Gnocl script to improve the looks (if you don't like purple, just substitute another GTK+ theme) and let the user select the exact number of seconds to wait.

I love it, pa ... well ... NOT the purple, but the script. I'll add it to RC3/Final. Thanks. Cool

Great! As for the purple . . . well, there are also five colorful GTK+ themes with no purple in my Clearlooks-Colorschemes .PET (only about 3 KB compressed), which I thought was going to be in RC2, but apparently wasn't. In case you misplaced it, overlooked it, or something, here it is again:
clearlooks-colorschemes-1.1.pet
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Filename  clearlooks-colorschemes-1.1.pet 
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 10:29    Post subject:  

trapster wrote:

- Now, how do I get rid of this annoying mouse shadow? /Menu/Desktop/PCursor you also might want to add new cursor themes also
- What window is the cups configuration using. I don't have right clicking options in it? Please explain clearer

- Great job on streamtuner, But...shouldn't we include streamripper if it's an option in streamtuner? Or, get rid of the button? Streamripper will be a addon in repo hopefully if WhoDo says its ok, So removing the button would stop the addon from working, if we had extra space it maybe would of been included. Or if zigbert would come onboard and help, he could modify his small script to work out of the box.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 10:35    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Yes I don't like the purple/pink sorry, PA I'm more for black, grey, orange, more manly colours [ . . . ]

Then you'll really hate "Clearlooks-MamaRose" (my wife's favorite), but try "Clearlooks-Autumnalia" (which my wife hates because she doesn't like orange). You don't have to like purple, but I believe it was considered quite a manly color in the days when kings wore purple robes (whence the name "Clearlooks-RoyalPurple2"). As for black and gray, I didn't see any need to reinvent the many existing black and gray wheels, I mean, GTK+ themes.

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The script on the other hand is really nice, I do like the new one already included in mtpaint, and if its replaced, I think it should be archived, in the repo, well If we due away with tcl/tk in the future like before scripts like the one we are now using will be lost, always handy to have around. even if it was a simple one, it was a good idea, and worked perfectly. Plus it gives a nice example how to script for new comers.

So does mine, I hope. Very Happy I thought the idea behind (temporarily) getting rid of Tcl/Tk was to standardize the GTK+ 2 look, which (on the whole) is better than what you're likely to get with Tk, and far better than what you can get with xdialog and the like. It turns out, I believe, that reinstituting Tcl with Gnocl actually helps to standardize the GTK+ look, as in this little script. So, um, if you (or anyone else) would like to discuss any remaining reasons for possibly dumping Tcl, maybe a new thread on that point could be started.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:06    Post subject:  

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What window is the cups configuration using. I don't have right clicking options in it? Please explain clearer


Found it...gtkmoz (defaulthtmlviewer).

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:13    Post subject:  

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Yes I don't like the purple/pink sorry, PA I'm more for black, grey, orange, more manly colours [ . . . ]

Then you'll really hate "Clearlooks-MamaRose" (my wife's favorite), but try "Clearlooks-Autumnalia" (which my wife hates because she doesn't like orange). You don't have to like purple, but I believe it was considered quite a manly color in the days when kings wore purple robes (whence the name "Clearlooks-RoyalPurple2"). As for black and gray, I didn't see any need to reinvent the many existing black and gray wheels, I mean, GTK+ themes.

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The script on the other hand is really nice, I do like the new one already included in mtpaint, and if its replaced, I think it should be archived, in the repo, well If we due away with tcl/tk in the future like before scripts like the one we are now using will be lost, always handy to have around. even if it was a simple one, it was a good idea, and worked perfectly. Plus it gives a nice example how to script for new comers.

So does mine, I hope. Very Happy I thought the idea behind (temporarily) getting rid of Tcl/Tk was to standardize the GTK+ 2 look, which (on the whole) is better than what you're likely to get with Tk, and far better than what you can get with xdialog and the like. It turns out, I believe, that reinstituting Tcl with Gnocl actually helps to standardize the GTK+ look, as in this little script. So, um, if you (or anyone else) would like to discuss any remaining reasons for possibly dumping Tcl, maybe a new thread on that point could be started.


Well the kings who wore purple did look a bit fruity,lol anyways to each their own on colours, No I like your script, i did say that, and I don't want tcl/tk removed, I was just say that we do have a new snapshot timer already that isn't tcl, and its only been used in the beta/rc1 releases to this point, I just think it should go to the repo, just because if we drop tcl/tk for some odd reason heaven forbid, we don't cripple puppy, we need to keep our current scripts archived somewhere. I'm happy to use your script, as long as its not purple/pink by default:)
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:18    Post subject:  

trapster,

Hadn't realised Osmo did moon phase. I'll drop that one then.

Conky on top is something I've not come across, conky is necessary for pwidgets to run.

WhoDo,

what on earth happened to shutoff menu. It's OK but yellow is my least favourite colour and the menu doesn't seem to follow themes.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:26    Post subject:  

- cpu running @ 100% with cupsd!!

- Pwidgets needs an option to shut it off if not (temporarily) wanted. The only thing I can find is "Clear list" but I don't really want to repopulate the list next time I want it.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:27    Post subject:  

tasmod wrote:

what on earth happened to shutoff menu. It's OK but yellow is my least favourite colour and the menu doesn't seem to follow themes.

feel free to change it when you install 4.2 on your pc Smile
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What on earth happened with Pwidgets slowing down refresh menus, and slowing down loading of the desktops, and messing up menus? What on earth, LOL
like you haven't seen the menu plastered like 20 times on here in icewm, and now that we are RC2!! you complain, maybe you should of done it say around alpha2 lol, Its ok if all goes well I'll be changing the theme also, I'm also tired of the flat look tooooooo.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:30    Post subject:  

trapster wrote:
- cpu running @ 100% with cupsd!!

- Pwidgets needs an option to shut it off if not (temporarily) wanted. The only thing I can find is "Clear list" but I don't really want to repopulate the list next time I want it.

Trapster If Zigbert doesn't give that option, I'll make a script to do. as for Cups at 100% I've been reading up on it and I'll look into it further. It has to do with cpu cycles.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:32    Post subject:
Subject description: laundrylist
 

Just a note before I go to the shed (offline) for some tetsing - thanks to all for 'things to watch out for' (keep'em on archived pp, lol but they add up a bit)

p3.2 - an idea struck (maybe PG or someone could look into) about perhaps automating an initial backup, normally I'm never a fan of automation unless it works faultlessly .. but this is one of those things that bites users who may not know or care how the filesystem or layers work. Plus the urge to personalize/'fix' is one of those things that can be a blessing or curse depending on the user and their expectations. Backups are something that's pretty much a given, but how to implement so it works and yet is simple enough to be effective for Joe User? There's almost always something that can make a long drawn-out complex fix a judgement call on whether it's worthwhile or time to walk away.

p3.14 - Good to see someone finally fixed that fuzzy prawn Smile but will Ice always have those odd _s in the mainmenu?

p4.6 - oya, a 'fig utility for Ice would be a considerable added value

fyi, 'blind operators' - http://www.prio.com/consumers/faq.cfm

p5.6 - @Lob', funny you mention that. Yep, there should be a toggle-off or 'tickler' for movies or other prolonged 'nonaction', but for most energy-conscious folk the default-off is a good thing. It's different for me on win32 since the .scr I use amuses the cat (priceless Very Happy: )

report - older ATI 9200 and Rage vidcards fine

p6.5 - Have to agree with Dinky on many widget points (but "sex sells", of course and only fitting that it should unless it turns out to be a date that's a bit more pricey than value received .. ahh, value - it's a pervasive thing). What works for me is to use widget-exec rather than fixwidgets .. this also tends to make the few widgets I use work well in other wms with their own unique background schemes (AS and a minimally duded-up Blackbox on the last rc, not sure just what all I used in the 1st alpha).

@ Widgets-Crew, great product and I'm sure it will continue to be further enhanced as to efficiency and useability with other wms

p7.1 - pprocess (what, you didn't make your own conky-widget, Trap? Shocked )

.. someday maybe a 'n00Bz guyD 2 Wbar, Conky & other good stuff' ..

another vote for the 'Cadillac' of wallpapers Smile

.. and now I shall retire to the shed for a bit - cya
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:37    Post subject:  

Still can't get my printer (Canon i965) working via the Windows machine. Thanks, TheBlackSheep (good beer, that) for the hints- I thought I knew them all, but I had not thought of the smb.conf permissions. Not that it made any difference- every time I go through the motions of setting up the Windows printer, cups tells me that it has installed Local Raw Printer, whatever that is.

By the way- cups takes 2 minutes and 15 seconds to start in this incarnation, on my 600MHz cpu.

And those ****** widgets that everyone spends so much time on- they use up 14% of my precious ram between them- they would have to go!

So I may join Tronkel in a holiday with Debian 'til I calm down- but I'll be back when I get bored.

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 11:53    Post subject:  

Whodo
I think we should delete conky from start menu apps..we already have pwidgets

Gerry
If you hate pwidgets so much, don't use it! Some people do actually like it. Want to turn it off, see below

Trapster
There is actually an option for turning pwidgets off and not loosing your list. Save your profile and clear up list. Next time you need pwidgets, call your saved profile

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 12:17    Post subject:  

trio wrote:
Whodo
I think we should delete conky from start menu apps..we already have pwidgets

Gerry
If you hate pwidgets so much, don't use it! Some people do actually like it. Want to turn it off, see below

Trapster
There is actually an option for turning pwidgets off and not loosing your list. Save your profile and clear up list. Next time you need pwidgets, call your saved profile

Thanks

Yes but thats not good enough, if people don't want anything thing to do with pwidgets, then its a bit more than turning them off, we should have a backup of the original fixmenus, which was a heck of a lot quicker, and anything else which is slowing down their PC's and have it replaced back to the original state. Why should they have to wait long than they should ? I always figure conky or pwidgets should be off completely and if a user wants it, they click a link on the menu and it installs from file located say in root. And then it does all the changes, It wouldn't really take anymore space either.
I think pwidgets is great Smile But I don't think everyone wants it and they shouldn't have wait for things like fixmenus.
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