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PowerPup! A project to port Puppy to PPC macs!
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PowerPup


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Location: Washington, USA.

PostPosted: Mon 29 Mar 2010, 16:59    Post_subject:  

Well, so far there is no update, working on my schooling. Wink And I still haven't been able to set aside money for large hard drive for which I'd do the porting on. I'll probably start working again on this around the start of summer. Cool
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Mon 03 May 2010, 03:34    Post_subject:  

Hey all, just wanted to give an update. I received a donation towards buying that bigger hard drive. Today I purchased a 60gb drive. Very Happy

So once I get it in the mail I'll be able to try the T2 method for porting Puppy to PowerPC. Wink


Puppy on!
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Mon 03 May 2010, 04:57    Post_subject:  

That would be cool if you could get that done.. I've had so many requests to make Puppy Arcade work on PS3... Your work would be a step in the right direction, for sure.. Good luck!
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rafa1215


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Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Sat 08 May 2010, 15:13    Post_subject: testing  

I can help you test this. I have a ibook g4 running 10.5.8 / 1.2Ghz / 1.25Gb of ram
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ArneBab

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PostPosted: Sun 09 May 2010, 05:19    Post_subject:  

PowerPup wrote:
So once I get it in the mail I'll be able to try the T2 method for porting Puppy to PowerPC. Wink


Cool! Many thanks!
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 01:39    Post_subject:  

New update: I tried messing both with the T2-method and a bit will Woof (by modifying the woof script to use the Ubuntu PPC repositories,) and.....

Well, this isn't going to be easy. Razz

Using the T2-method (which will be the most likely route,) something wasn't working right in the download script. it was going through it and saying it was complete (with a few download errors,) but as I looked in the download folder it was clear not everything had been downloaded. Going to need look into that.

I really want to be able to use the Woof scripts because it makes more sense to use pre-compiled packages (Like Ubuntu's PPC ones,) I'd rather just compile the Puppy specific packages for PPC than compiling ALL of them.

So apparently this is going to take a little script work in order to start working for PPC... Meaning it will take longer than I was hoping.
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ArneBab

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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 09:16    Post_subject:  

Many thanks for the update! I wish you bood luck!
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racepres


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PostPosted: Sat 22 May 2010, 10:32    Post_subject:  

Good luck w/ it... Glad someone is doing it!
After my season winds down a bit I will try to help.
BTW, I would think that the Debian repository is more extensive than Ubuntu... Which dropped PPC support long ago... $0.02
RP
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Tester

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jun 2010, 19:33    Post_subject: power pc  

just want to keep up aney progeress.
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jul 2010, 02:16    Post_subject:  

I'd been meaning to post this earlier this month, but never got around to it. Razz

Anyway, things are getting a little tight financially so I'm going to need to find a summer job this year. So that probably means no time for working on the PowerPup project this summer. Which makes me really sad because others have donated to this and I still don't have anything yet. Sad

The skills and knowledge required to get this accomplished is more than what I have at this moment. I really don't know if the "learn as you go" is the right way to approach this. I may just decide to put this off until I get some classes on Linux programming/building. (Whatever it's called. Razz) Dunno if I'll go this way yet but I probably need consider it in order to get PowerPup working.

Anyway, hope all you PuppyLinux fans have a great summer!
Ben.
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ChiJoan

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 00:24    Post_subject: PowerPC Live CD...ARM for Puppy too?
Sub_title: Saw something that might make it easy...?
 

I was looking on Distrowatch's links for floppy based or smaller distros for someone who had a question in this DW's Monday Newsletter replies...Anyway when I got to ttyLinux and saw it has an ARM and PPC version, I thought of all those G3 and G4 PowerPC laptops out there. True it's a far cry from Puppy, but maybe someone could use it.

http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/

Good luck to all of us trying to make ends meet these days...

Joan in Reno
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 20:20    Post_subject:  

Thanks for the link ChiJoan. It will come in handy very much. Very Happy

Well I guess I should give a little update. I've been thinking some more on exactly how I should approach building PowerPup.

And I think I've come to the conclusion that I can't exactly make (at least not easily with my skill,) a PPC port of Puppy Linux. Puppy Linux was designed for PCs in mind, emphasizing on old hardware support, and with the latest Puppy 5, being able to build Puppy with packages from x86 distros.

Until the Puppy's building environment is improved for cross-platform support (Which would require Puppy Experts getting PPC hardware or something,) I think I should approach more of a "Puppy inspired OS for PPC."

Thanks to the discovery of ttylinux posted by ChiJoan, I now have a candidate base OS to try to build PowerPup on. Very Happy
For those interested in trying ttylinux out, I've remastered the CD so it will boot. http://powerpup.yi.org/ttylinux-powerpc-11.2.iso.gz (I've emailed the iso to Douglas, the maker of ttylinux, so he can put it on his site.)

I might try some other distro as well, one that has caught my attention is Frugalware Linux, which at first was based on Slackware, but now they maintain their own repository of packages built straight from original sources. (The structure is still based on Slackware I think.)
Plus they maintain PPC binaries. Which will make my job easier. Very Happy (Somewhat, I still need to learn how to make a minimal linux.) Razz

I might even reconsider Finnix, which is Debian based. Although Finnix is somewhat "pudgy." Razz

I even thought about Yellow Dog Linux 5.0.2, since it was their last version to support G3s. Not sure about this one because it's somewhat outdated.

Anyway, hope you all enjoyed your summer, I'll be heading to college in about a week. So I'm not too sure when I'll start working on PowerPup, but I have a feeling I'm moving in the right direction. Very Happy

Ben.
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ChiJoan

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 20:55    Post_subject: What about CruxPPC for further research...
Sub_title: They mention NewWorld PowerPC G3/G4, etc.
 

Good luck in school, but may be someone will keep the ball rolling...

http://cruxppc.org/

Joan in Reno
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 21:56    Post_subject:  

Thanks. Very Happy

Yeah, I kinda forgot about CruxPPC, I'm sure there is a link on some former page. Rolling Eyes

Nice to see they came out with an update. I will take CruxPPC into consideration as well. Very Happy
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mmmrr


Joined: 03 Mar 2009
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Location: vancouver island, canada

PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 18:41    Post_subject: long way round, virtual puppy in debian base mint on ppc-g4
Sub_title: tried qemu, virtualbox-ose, both nogo, still looking
 

i posted this in the virtualization forum so please reply there.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65573

hello folks,

i tried qemu but without acceleration which is not available for ppc
it was slow: click to close window, count to three, window closes

virtualbox ose [open source edition] has me still scrambling to get it installed, hours and hours. just learned virtualbox won't go on ppc.

so it seemed like a good time to see if anybody has a suggestion. i'm going to take a look at other vm's,,xen,
lxc, user mode linux, schroot. also maybe try installing
virtualbox onto a pc machine to see how it goes when it is
installed.

cheers, mm
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