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PowerPup! A project to port Puppy to PPC macs!
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PowerPup


Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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Location: Washington, USA.
PostPosted: Sun 17 May 2009, 16:07    Post subject:  
Thanks Technosaurus! Very Happy It will still be awhile before I get something that resembles Puppy. Considering that there isn't any sources of Puppy 3, It's probably a better idea to get PowerPup based on Puppy 4/5 instead. Don't know if much is needed to revise the initrd. Probably won't take much. (I figured I'd have to use t2-dingo.tar somewhere along the line.) Razz

Anyway, thanks again for the resource links. I'll try to look over them later today. Wink


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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jun 2009, 02:29    Post subject:  
Hey all, just wanted to give an update.

I just got hired Sunday so I won't work on PowerPup as often as I had. But I still plan on working on it. Very Happy

Still haven't gotten around to checking what it would take to make PowerPup based on Puppy 4. Plan doing that next.

Puppy on!

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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Jun 2009, 04:55    Post subject:  
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I just got hired Sunday


Congratulations Smile

Why join the navy if you can be a pirate?
Steve Jobs

eh . . . Embarassed . . . not saying you are a pirate
(your CV is probably not required) Embarassed
just wanted a Steve Job quote . . .

Good Luck - oh Aaaahhhhh!!! Cool
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PowerPup


Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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Location: Washington, USA.
PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 14:13    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Quote:
I just got hired Sunday


Congratulations Smile

Why join the navy if you can be a pirate?
Steve Jobs

eh . . . Embarassed . . . not saying you are a pirate
(your CV is probably not required) Embarassed
just wanted a Steve Job quote . . .

Good Luck - oh Aaaahhhhh!!! Cool


Lol! Laughing Actually I think that's a good quote. I'm working at McDonald's.
No updates as of yet on PowerPup. Been busy with Summer. Razz
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 07:26    Post subject:  
Hi Powerpup

McDonalds.....Oh nooooo! Laughing

If ever you get back to your project, this gem from ttuuxxx may help with all that code...

ttuuxxx wrote:
hi Guys I just came across this really nice and small text editor, It can use 26 different languages and you can also configure the fonts and other things all located in the menus, If we ever needed something 1/3 the size of Geany I think this could be a good contender.
here's a quote "
Code Browser is a folding and outlining editor for Linux. The editor is between a traditional text editor, a smalltalk class browser and a web browser like mozilla. It displays a structured text file (marker-based folding) hierarchically using multiple panes.

Code Browser is especially designed to keep a good overview of the code of large projects. Ideal if you are fed up of having to scroll through thousands of lines of code.

Code Browser supports syntax highlighting for all major languages and custom highlighting can also be added. Although Code Browser was designed to write and maintain programs, it can be used for different tasks such as plain text outlining or understanding existing source code."

code-browser-3.6-i386|code-browser|3.6-i386||Document|384K|pet_packages-4|code-browser-3.6-i386.pet||Text editor|puppy|4|4|
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=19570
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=19564


Ref: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43921&start=15

Good Luck with your 'Job' [mind that your brain doesn't get fried, now Wink ]

Aitch Smile
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 12:15    Post subject:  
Lol! Laughing Don't worry, I've been keeping my head in my hat, so I'm "covered." Razz

Actually, Slackintosh 12.1 includes KDE. And it's text edit tools Kate and Kwrite have syntax highlighting. So don't worry, got that "covered" too. Wink
Although it looks like a nifty little program. Think I might try to include it in PowerPup.
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bru


Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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Location: Poland, Świętochłowice
PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 06:49    Post subject:  
Hey Mate!!

I try Your PowerPup_beta.iso on my ps3 and it works!!
1. i download Your .iso
2. mount & copy all to usb /powerpup
3. copy vmlinux from CELL-Linux-CL_20080609-ADDON.iso /powerpup/boot
4. make kboot.conf /powerpup/etc
5. plug usb to ps3 & boot powerpup with ps3-petitboot-09.06.09.bld

i dont know much how this should work but
i get this;)


I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!
cheers
p.s. sorry for mistakes, im not english
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 17:28    Post subject:  
Wow bru! Shocked Considering that I don't own a PS3, I never thought about running it on one. Razz That's so cool! Very Happy

It went as far as I have developed it so far. The error you get (same as on the PPC macs) is because there is no "pup_301.sfs" file with the PPC compiled programs. That is what I am currently trying to figure out how to do.
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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 19:04    Post subject:  
you can make an sfs using any directory tree... just copy your ppc tree to a folder that you can access from an x86 PC then make the sfs (using dir2sfs) from there and transfer it back over (assuming you used one of Barry's squashfs patched kernels with the same squashfs version)
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 20:45    Post subject:  
Well technosaurus. It's not really an issue of creating the sfs file. It's an issue of compiling Puppy from source to PPC. Or at least building a sfs file from slackintosh (meaning I would need to make a small installation on a hard disk. could use ubuntu.)
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bru


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jul 2009, 15:31    Post subject:  
I can't wait final version PowerPUP. Very Happy
I would like to help but i don't know much about compilng Embarassed
i've installed Debian Lenny on my ps3 but i can try to install Slackintosh if need.
Ps3 emulates ppc64 architecture.

Cheers!!
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nic2109

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jul 2009, 17:20    Post subject:  
Hey PowerPup; I do hope that you get the help you need. There are many of us with old macs that would be so super-cool to get Puppy running on. It's just SUCH an enticing prospect.

While there isn't anything like the same problem of perfectly good hardware going to landfill as with PCs, there'll be tens of thousands of obsolete macs doing nothing at all but whose owners cannot bare to discard. The development of a working Puppy for them could release these for active service again.

I can barely contain my excitement: as well as the Dell laptop mentioned in my signature I have an early all-in-one blueberry iMac sat in a box waiting for this! Razz Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jul 2009, 20:27    Post subject:  
bru wrote:
I can't wait final version PowerPUP. Very Happy
I would like to help but i don't know much about compilng Embarassed
i've installed Debian Lenny on my ps3 but i can try to install Slackintosh if need.
Ps3 emulates ppc64 architecture.

Cheers!!


Thanks bru! Wink Maybe someday when I learn to cross compile I'll make an optimized PPC64 version of PowerPup. Very Happy Actually, I'm in the same boat. Razz I need to learn more in order to compile everything. Rolling Eyes

nic2109 wrote:
Hey PowerPup; I do hope that you get the help you need. There are many of us with old macs that would be so super-cool to get Puppy running on. It's just SUCH an enticing prospect.

While there isn't anything like the same problem of perfectly good hardware going to landfill as with PCs, there'll be tens of thousands of obsolete macs doing nothing at all but whose owners cannot bare to discard. The development of a working Puppy for them could release these for active service again.

I can barely contain my excitement: as well as the Dell laptop mentioned in my signature I have an early all-in-one blueberry iMac sat in a box waiting for this! Razz Razz Razz


Thank you Nic2109! Yeah, that's kinda why I started this project. Because there are only a handful of PPC linux OSes out there. (around or under 12)
If you can't wait for something for your iMac you can always put Ubuntu, Slackintosh, or Debian on it. If you know you way around linux you can even use Finnix and just add X and KDE XFCE, or Gnome. (I had thought of remastering Finnix, maybe one day.)

As of lately I've been a little sidetracked. I setup my old PowerMac 6100 and finally figured out how to use my IBM SCSI drive in it. (Had to ResEdit DriveSetup) Now it has double the disk space. (4GB) I decide with this extra space I'd try to setup a duel boot for Mac OS 9 and Debian 3.1. Has to be an older version because the only stable kernel for the Nubus macs is 2.4. But I've been having some trouble getting one to work for my 6400. Razz So I'm going to try to compile my own kernel from their source code.

Reason why I'm messing with this stuff is because I hope to support these even older macs. Very Happy They are currently working on a 2.6 kernel, so I'm going to try to help them out, at least on testing. Very Happy So maybe one day PowerPup will support all PowerMacs. Very Happy (But that's not for a loooonnnnngggg time.)
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ChiJoan

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2009, 05:00    Post subject: What about the help from Novell's OpenSuse PowerPC version?
Subject description: They have that new program to help build and code...		  
Hello,

I have a G4 PowerPC tower in the closet waiting for a faster OS, too. When I know I had installed OpenSuse PPC version, then read about that program of they started, I thought about your project. Maybe you should look into it?

http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service
http://software.opensuse.org/

Ouch, OpenSuse only installs, but maybe they could change their minds. After all Ubuntu 6 was a Live CD.

Good luck with PowerPup and McDonalds,
ChiJoan
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PowerPup


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PostPosted: Tue 25 Aug 2009, 16:38    Post subject: Re: What about the help from Novell's OpenSuse PowerPC version?
Subject description: They have that new program to help build and code...		  
ChiJoan wrote:
Hello,

I have a G4 PowerPC tower in the closet waiting for a faster OS, too. When I know I had installed OpenSuse PPC version, then read about that program of they started, I thought about your project. Maybe you should look into it?

http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service
http://software.opensuse.org/

Ouch, OpenSuse only installs, but maybe they could change their minds. After all Ubuntu 6 was a Live CD.

Good luck with PowerPup and McDonalds,
ChiJoan


Thanks ChiJoan, my job at McDonald's has been going well. Though I haven't been really doing anything with PowerPup for a while. Took some of the ram out of the G4 for use in the family computer. So I want to get some more ram before I get back to working on the project.

What I am probably going to do next is a minimal installation of slackintosh or another linux os and turn that into a sfs file. which I'll test on the CD. And slowly over time turn that into something more like Puppy Linux's sfs file.
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