PowerPup! A project to port Puppy to PPC macs!
Remember to save money on that RAM
Hi,
When I sent that info to one of the Linux Mac reporters, he was very grateful, because Apple charges so much for parts and RAM. I hope that helps defray costs and helps get you back on track with PowerPup.
Take care,
ChiJoan
When I sent that info to one of the Linux Mac reporters, he was very grateful, because Apple charges so much for parts and RAM. I hope that helps defray costs and helps get you back on track with PowerPup.
Take care,
ChiJoan
Hi, PowerPupPowerPup wrote:What I am probably going to do next is a minimal installation of slackintosh or another linux os and turn that into a sfs file. which I'll test on the CD. And slowly over time turn that into something more like Puppy Linux's sfs file.
Glad to hear the job's going OK, & that you haven't started squawking....
Have you considered big_bass's slaxer_pup as a sort of stepping stone between the two?
It's based on slackware 12.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41298
Maybe that and slackintosh would provide a good solid base....
....when you get time, of course...nudge, nudge....
Aitch
Thanks for the advise Aitch, but from what I've read all big_bass really did was change the kernel and inird.gz files. Which I've already done. It uses the original puppy 412 base .sfs file. Which I need to recreate from scratch, hopefully using some of the pre-compiled packages from slackintosh and some of my own compiling. I won't need all of the puppy programs because PPC macs are more generic.Aitch wrote:Hi, PowerPupPowerPup wrote:What I am probably going to do next is a minimal installation of slackintosh or another linux os and turn that into a sfs file. which I'll test on the CD. And slowly over time turn that into something more like Puppy Linux's sfs file.
Glad to hear the job's going OK, & that you haven't started squawking....
Have you considered big_bass's slaxer_pup as a sort of stepping stone between the two?
It's based on slackware 12.2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41298
Maybe that and slackintosh would provide a good solid base....
....when you get time, of course...nudge, nudge....
Aitch
It works on a PS3? Did I read that right?
Could Puppy be the first LiveCD for a games console? It would essentially turn a stupifying device into a tool for education (and homework!)
Could Puppy be the first LiveCD for a games console? It would essentially turn a stupifying device into a tool for education (and homework!)
Puppy Linux's [url=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=296352#296352]Mission[/url]
Sorry, my server is down atm!
Sorry, my server is down atm!
More Puppy please!
I have a G3 iBook I will gladly test Puppy on! I am an avid Linux fan and have wished for a PPC Linux distro that will work. Keep working on it and good luck with the new kernel!
Just to let you all know I going to start working on that PPC sfs now. I decided what I'd do is what technosaurus had said in his New Puppy based on the best parts of many distros topic. "using Kernel 2.6.29+, busybox, minimal X, JWM ." Once I have that, I'll use it as a building block to work my way up to something that hopefully look something similar to what we have for x86 pcs.
But before I do any of this, I'm going to try to get that ram for my G4 today.
Puppy on!
But before I do any of this, I'm going to try to get that ram for my G4 today.
Puppy on!
Hi PowerPup
Perhaps it's time to re-read the whole of this thread, to put all the tips & links in order, and make sure all the info is still applicable/relevant
- there's been quite a bit, eh?
Let me know when it's time to dig out and dust off the G3, and make some benchspace available
.....damn, I was going to sort the dual xeon processor mobo SCSI booting out, too, and the mini-itx car PC
I keep running out of room, and I'm still due to do a 8/10 day narrowboat trip, testing & running-in a rebuilt Mercedes engine
I seem to have less time now I'm retired than before....did the clocks go back or something.....?
good luck with it!
Aitch
Perhaps it's time to re-read the whole of this thread, to put all the tips & links in order, and make sure all the info is still applicable/relevant
- there's been quite a bit, eh?
Let me know when it's time to dig out and dust off the G3, and make some benchspace available
.....damn, I was going to sort the dual xeon processor mobo SCSI booting out, too, and the mini-itx car PC
I keep running out of room, and I'm still due to do a 8/10 day narrowboat trip, testing & running-in a rebuilt Mercedes engine
I seem to have less time now I'm retired than before....did the clocks go back or something.....?
good luck with it!
Aitch
Hey Aitch,
Thanks for the idea, I was aware that the first post was getting a little out dated. (Though not by much. )
It has been fixed accordingly.
Little update on the Nubus mac Kernel project. They released a 2.6.31 test kernel, I'm going to try it out on some of my old macs. (They noted the PDM type (6100/7100/8100) machines weren't supported yet.)
But when they have a stable version I'll be able to bring PowerPup to even older Macs!!! (An even further dream coming to possibility!)
Thanks for the idea, I was aware that the first post was getting a little out dated. (Though not by much. )
It has been fixed accordingly.
Little update on the Nubus mac Kernel project. They released a 2.6.31 test kernel, I'm going to try it out on some of my old macs. (They noted the PDM type (6100/7100/8100) machines weren't supported yet.)
But when they have a stable version I'll be able to bring PowerPup to even older Macs!!! (An even further dream coming to possibility!)
more news
see amigo's comment, posted here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 828#353828
HTH
Aitch
see amigo's comment, posted here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 828#353828
seems amigo's already worked some magic for slackware, too, I believeMost srcpkg users just use it in the simplest of fashions and it will work without problems for at least 80% of anything you throw at it. But for more complex builds, it can use build scripts which guarantee the repeatability of your builds and the scripts are arch-independent. You can use the same script to compile on other arches -even multi-lib distros. So when you have the hang of using it, you can easily copy over your build scripts to that puppy-ppc or puppy-x86_64 machine and rebuild every package with the same ease. there are example scripts included and even group-build scripts which show how to rebuild a whole tree full of many sources with a single command.
HTH
Aitch
Darn Me!!! Why did it take me so long to find this??
If it helps[hope it does] I have been fighting w/ linux on a mac for quite some time off and on.
Recently I had alot of luck with a Wallstreet Powerbook, because it is new enough to run most kernels ported for the mac's [note that newer kernels bork stuff like pcmcia support] yet old enough to boot from pcmcia/zip/cd, drive, as well as hdd. I feel that this is important because bootX is so very easy to use and OS9 fits even onto a 100M zip w/ it. Now the entire hdd is "dedicated " to Linux. Important to me because more than once I have removed the hard drive from the macs [used an imac, and a g4 agp for this also] and put it into a Pee Cee, running a puppy cd to edit the hdd, successfuly!
Don't know if this is any help at all but... to me it works wonders to the point that I now also have a PB1400 [newbus/old world rom] running debian.
Best of luck to you, and sure wish I knew more about this stuff... but if you want something tried on a certain Mac, I may just have the thing around this clutter, since our business has run on Mac since '85!
RP
If it helps[hope it does] I have been fighting w/ linux on a mac for quite some time off and on.
Recently I had alot of luck with a Wallstreet Powerbook, because it is new enough to run most kernels ported for the mac's [note that newer kernels bork stuff like pcmcia support] yet old enough to boot from pcmcia/zip/cd, drive, as well as hdd. I feel that this is important because bootX is so very easy to use and OS9 fits even onto a 100M zip w/ it. Now the entire hdd is "dedicated " to Linux. Important to me because more than once I have removed the hard drive from the macs [used an imac, and a g4 agp for this also] and put it into a Pee Cee, running a puppy cd to edit the hdd, successfuly!
Don't know if this is any help at all but... to me it works wonders to the point that I now also have a PB1400 [newbus/old world rom] running debian.
Best of luck to you, and sure wish I knew more about this stuff... but if you want something tried on a certain Mac, I may just have the thing around this clutter, since our business has run on Mac since '85!
RP
Great to hear your success with Linux on Macs, Racepres.
Though the 2.6.31 nubus kernel is still in testing, there has been two (if I remember right) successes reported in the mailing list on running Debian Lenny on the PB1400.
Yes I wish I knew more too. Hence why this is taking so long. (Plus I have only one monitor for my PC and Mac. Trying to Look for a cheap LCD.)
And thanks for all the encouragement guys, it does help.
Though the 2.6.31 nubus kernel is still in testing, there has been two (if I remember right) successes reported in the mailing list on running Debian Lenny on the PB1400.
Yes I wish I knew more too. Hence why this is taking so long. (Plus I have only one monitor for my PC and Mac. Trying to Look for a cheap LCD.)
And thanks for all the encouragement guys, it does help.
- Lobster
- Official Crustacean
- Posts: 15522
- Joined: Wed 04 May 2005, 06:06
- Location: Paradox Realm
- Contact:
I have given CRT monitors and other stuff to these guysTrying to Look for a cheap LCD.
http://www.freecycle.org/
and got one old but working LCD monitor for my Mac (which I also got from them)
In fact CRT monitors are often left out in the London streets.
Appreciate things may be different where you are.
Where in the states are you? Maybe a local Mac Puppian can help you out?
I live in the state of Washington. I'll probably look around on the local freecycle group.racepres wrote:Like Me for instance... I travel the I65 corridor regularly.Lobster wrote:Where in the states are you? Maybe a local Mac Puppian can help you out?Trying to Look for a cheap LCD.
RP
The problem isn't where it's looking for the pup_301.sfs file. (Because I used a test file on one of my G4's hard drive and it worked.)racepres wrote:Hey PowerPup;
Where do you suppose the PowerPuppy Kernel is looking for the pup_301.sfs to be at anyway??? Could it be on hdd/usbdrive/cd??? Just curious where it would be "looking"
RP
The problem is I need to create a pup_301.sfs file with PPC compiled programs and such. It uses the original puppy scripts, so it technically should be able to locate the sfs file on any media puppy supports.
Yea I found that out this A.M. Took the sfs from "WhiteFang" and just dropped it onto my debian hdd and then booted into your CD. It sure does try to get into it! But eventually had a [expected] kernel panic! Certainly looks as if it will eventually work.PowerPup wrote: The problem isn't where it's looking for the pup_301.sfs file. (Because I used a test file on one of my G4's hard drive and it worked.)
The problem is I need to create a pup_301.sfs file with PPC compiled programs and such. It uses the original puppy scripts, so it technically should be able to locate the sfs file on any media puppy supports.
Again anything you want tested.... just give a yell...
RP