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ecomoney

Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 2183 Location: Lincolnshire, England
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Posted: Mon 17 Jul 2006, 22:54 Post subject:
just upgrade |
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Quote: | Send all spammers to hell, to burn in agony forever |
But who gets to decide who is a spammer and who is just posting informtion that relevant to them
Automated signups would of course be discouraged by a upgrade to the latest phpbb, which includes a graphical code checker the user must enter. Yes PHPBB IS AN OPEN_SOURCE PRODUCT TOO!!! It has responded to the comments on its forum and evolved since this forum was installed.
This is a just a matter of the .php replacing .php files on the severs as this is a standard, unmodified phpbb install (Ecomoney is my company -100% puppy powered - that specialises in creating and customizing them!)
After the poll on this forum Im just about to go ahead and start work on a demo of a skin for a forum especially for puppy linux and I will be showing the demo soon on a fresh install of phpbb (althouh all of the 2.xx series boards are skin-compatable). It will be relatively easy job to transfer the post and user data across given a recent backup.
I want people to contrubute to the forum design in true GPL/OS fashion. I know there are lots of features in the new PHPBB boards that would be useful to Puppy Linux, and I am frustrated that Im such a newb with puppy linux (and spend an hour trying to set the time) This I believe is the best way my business can contribute to the development of Puppy Linux, as Puppy Linux has helped the development of mine!!!
Demo URL Coming Soon...
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 13653 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Tue 18 Jul 2006, 00:27 Post subject:
Re: just upgrade |
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ecomoney wrote: | But who gets to decide who is a spammer and who is just posting informtion that relevant to them  |
Me, that's who. (Until they pry my cold dead fingers from the trigger.)
Quote: | Automated signups would of course be discouraged by a upgrade to the latest phpbb, which includes a graphical code checker the user must enter. |
Discouraged, perhaps, but not prevented. I recently read an article describing the newest spam-generating software (a phrase that makes me doubt my own sanity.) It is capable of defeating at least some if not most graphical code checkers.
Quote: | After the poll on this forum Im just about to go ahead and start work on a demo of a skin for a forum especially for puppy linux and I will be showing the demo soon on a fresh install of phpbb ... It will be relatively easy job to transfer the post and user data across given a recent backup.
I want people to contrubute to the forum design in true GPL/OS fashion. I know there are lots of features in the new PHPBB boards that would be useful to Puppy Linux... |
John Murga might be glad for the help. You should contact him.
If you're disappointed in the response to your poll, I can tell you that I didn't reply because you only gave a choice between an unkown (or undefined) skin and the one we have. In other words, I might have answered yes if you had said "If the new skin looks better, would you be willing to change?"
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 13653 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Tue 18 Jul 2006, 00:28 Post subject:
Re: just upgrade |
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ecomoney wrote: | But who gets to decide who is a spammer and who is just posting informtion that relevant to them  |
Me, that's who. (Until they pry my cold dead finger from the trigger.)
Quote: | Automated signups would of course be discouraged by a upgrade to the latest phpbb, which includes a graphical code checker the user must enter. |
Discouraged, perhaps, but not prevented. I recently read an article describing the newest spam-generating software (a phrase that makes me doubt my own sanity.) It is capable of defeating at least some if not most graphical code checkers.
Quote: | After the poll on this forum Im just about to go ahead and start work on a demo of a skin for a forum especially for puppy linux and I will be showing the demo soon on a fresh install of phpbb ... It will be relatively easy job to transfer the post and user data across given a recent backup.
I want people to contrubute to the forum design in true GPL/OS fashion. I know there are lots of features in the new PHPBB boards that would be useful to Puppy Linux... |
John Murga might be glad for the help. You should contact him.
If you're disappointed in the response to your poll, I can tell you that I didn't reply because you only gave a choice between an unkown (or undefined) skin and the one we have. In other words, I might have answered yes if you had said "If the new skin looks better, would you be willing to change?"
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ecomoney

Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 2183 Location: Lincolnshire, England
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Posted: Tue 18 Jul 2006, 04:24 Post subject:
New Forum Demo |
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http://ecomoney.eu/pupdemo/
Heres a mock up of how a puppy forum might look, with some suggestions of possible themes and MODS that would make it easier to use. Its the latest stable phpbb Release.
Ive contacted John the main "top ten" forum users by PM, told them about the demo and offered my assistance. Although Im a fairly experienced programmer and phpbb creator Im new to contributing to open source. I have no idea of the 'right' way to do it so please set me straight if Im going about things in the wrong way. As you can tell by some of my other posts Im pretty green when it comes to configuring Puppy, so I think this is the best way I can add to the project, which I would dearly like to do more of. I have had a some experience in running a board and I know that people dont like having changes imposed upon them without being asked.
Heres one of your earlier quotes Flash
Quote: | I'm sure we all agree with Getnikar. The problem is, what can each of us to do about it? Maybe we can't all contribute code or how-tos or manuals, but each of us can contribute something, even if it's only to neaten up the grammar or spelling of a wiki entry so it reads better.
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from here
Ive set up the Demo totally as that. If it gets used then I will be glad, if it doesnt then I wont go back to using Windows! The forums great and I can only imagine the amount of work it takes to keep it as such a useful resource. I hope I can make it easier for you and harder for the spammers.
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ecomoney

Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 2183 Location: Lincolnshire, England
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2006, 08:53 Post subject:
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Would it be possible to have the puppy logo in the top left hand corner of the board like standard phpbb forums?
Apart from the "Branding" it also means that there is a convenient link to get back to the index page. Cheers
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jus407
Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 177 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue 12 Sep 2006, 01:28 Post subject:
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this would really help the website in my opinion, but stop letting the website (murga.org) host files to be downlaoded (im not talking about your personal files murga in no way am i saying take your own pics down off your own site) im just saying dont allow an attachments section and if you do make it host the file on puptrix.org they say they have plenty of bandwith.
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 13653 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Tue 12 Sep 2006, 10:45 Post subject:
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Spreading the forum database around doesn't sound like a good idea to me. That's just a personal preference.
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Pizzasgood

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6266 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
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Posted: Thu 12 Oct 2006, 00:56 Post subject:
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Several people have commented on not being able to delete their own posts when the forum acts up and causes duplicates. Would it be possible to activate this, or is there some reason against it?
_________________ Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. --Muad'Dib

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Lobster
Official Crustacean

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15588 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Sat 14 Oct 2006, 23:32 Post subject:
The forum does not work |
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I am concerned.
The forum does not work.
Day after day I can not get to it. Information I need to access or provide is not available. This situation has been worsening.
Why is this? What is the solution?
I know *having tried to run two forums now' how difficult it is to avoid spammers (just to mention one problem). So I know how hard this is . . .
In the past we have moved to new solutions. Is this required now? As we are using hosted forums would one of those be a solution?
I believe the forum has reached a critical point. Even though I value what has been done. This needs to be stated quite clearly.
The forum does not work
Can it be fixed? (that seems to have been tried for months now)
Do we need to start afresh?
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Wolfen

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: Behind you..
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 04:33 Post subject:
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Well, if we are going to make a new forum, I think it would be useful to take some posts with us to the new one, at least the more important ones. I don't know if this is possible, but it might help to not have to post all the info about Megapup, KDE, OpenOffice, and so on again.
This is just me, but I think the demo Todd has put up is quite nice, with some tweaks. I don't know much about php and the likes, but what I do know is a little HTML and CSS, so if it is needed, I am glad to help.
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pakt

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 1156 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 04:55 Post subject:
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I agree with Lobster that the forum no longer works. Perhaps it has reached a critical point - maximum posts? maximum database size? who knows...
Perhaps a solution would be to keep this forum but make it read-only so the valuable information contained within it can be referenced, and a new empty forum (Puppy Forum II ?) started.
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Béèm

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 513 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 05:53 Post subject:
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Yes we all suffer from the forum behavior these last month.
To extend on Wolfen's comment, the important info about KDE, OOo etc etc.. could be brought over to wikki pages maybe.
Also I experienced the closing of the developer forum and the Puppy2 forum. At that time I was anxious too about the info in there and access to it, but now some time later, I don't even think about those old posts anymore.
A new Puppy II forum could probably develop the same symptoms over time, but ala in the beginning it would be a relieve.
But it has always been my preference to use nntp based newsgroups in stead of this http based forums.
It couls be that nntp based newsgroups are more difficult to maintain, I don't know.
Anyhow, let's hope for a solution shortly.
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GuestToo
Puppy Master
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 09:42 Post subject:
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one thing that should be done anyway, is to move all of the older dotpup packages from the forum to file servers (like MU's http://dotpups.de/dotpups/)
i don't know if the attachements are having any affect on the performance of the forum (there are over 3000 attachments) ... the attachments may not be a problem at all, but it is at least a possibility
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GuestToo
Puppy Master
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 09:59 Post subject:
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another alternative to forums is a mailing list
whether a mailing list would be useful or practical, it is easy to set one up
jmarsden has already set one up here:
http://www.freelists.org/list/puppy-devel
but it seems to have been abandoned ... anyway, there are no recent messages that are archived
jmarsden's email list had a specific goal of developing a Puppy base like Linux-From-Scratch, so that all the source code to compile all the compiled kernel and drivers and applications would be all in one place. I think that T2 has already done much the same thing
i think MU prefers a forum to an email list ... i think i would too
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MU

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 13647 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
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Posted: Sun 15 Oct 2006, 10:20 Post subject:
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yes, I prefer a forum.
dotpups.de is running out of space, so we would have to use puptrix.org.
Is there a folder, where all dotpups could be downloaded from?
It would be good to save them in their original name.
wget saves them as "download.php?id=3085", so it is not good to be used in a script to download all
Mark
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