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pCD 1.5 - CD-audio player
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 09:18    Post subject:  

1. "Does boxpup use the standard puppy event management system?"
As a newbie, this is all unknown to me, but I did manage to find "Menu->System->Puppy event manager".
Don't see any way in there to make configuration changes so that pCD would autoplay rather than Xfmedia player.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 09:47    Post subject:  

please look at the picture below. that's the event-manager (version in 4.10).

activate both items might do the trick.

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 12:11    Post subject:  

Both of those boxes are already ticked. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 13:45    Post subject:  

my guess would be to edit /usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer like this

Code:
 #!/bin/sh
#exec gxineshell "$@"
exec pCD "$@"


Don't really know till you try.
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aragon

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 15:32    Post subject:  

yes but 4.2 has also defaultmusicplayer (maybe defaultaudioplayer) which is set to pmusic i think.

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 15:58    Post subject:  

1 Searched for files with default in their name.

2. No file found named defaultaudioplayer, or anything similar.

3. Only /usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer found.
Made the suggested changes, but all that did was result in NO autoplay of ANY audio/media player.

4. Put things back as they had been and Xfmedia player now autoplays as previously.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 17:46    Post subject:  

Maybe we should have defaultcdplayer, defaultcdripper, defaultcdburner and defaultdvdplayer as well.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 18:50    Post subject:  

Sylvander, thank you for your support. About 70% of people I introduce Puppy Linux to return to Windows OS. I ask them why. Once of the constant replies I get is "I just want the damn thing to play a cd when I put one in, is that too much to ask?"....amongst several others.

01micko wrote:
I think our efforts would be better spent on other issues


If our aim is to be "friendly to Linux Newbies", then we should not expect them to embark on learning curves for them to be able to be able to do the things Windows did for them automatically. They see "Plays CD's without needing to read a manual" as a "feature". Smile

I think our efforts as Linux Developers are best spent making a Linux Starter Distro as immediately easy to use as Windows....and leave manual-reading to those who have an interest in knowing how Linux works (and they eventually will) to read the manual.

The thing is....I dont personally care a jot whether it plays CD automatically or not...I just Ive seen a lot of new Linux users that do. Any "Product", free or commercial, is doomed to failure if it does not listen to its "target market".

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disciple

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Jun 2009, 23:13    Post subject:  

We could really do without the hyperbole.
"Menu->Multimedia->pCD CD-audio player" involves reading a menu, not a manual.
You're not asking for Puppy to be made easier, you're either asking for him to be made more automatic, or more like Windows, either of which is OK.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 02:01    Post subject:  

Okay, so I:
1. Changed the event manager settings to automatically run the handler when a disk is inserted, as described above.
2. Opened /usr/local/bin/drive_all and changed line 137 (I'm in Puppy 4.1.1, but my event manager is probably not stock) to start pcd
Code:
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  1) #audio
   ln -snf /dev/${ONEDRVNAME} /dev/cdrom
   exec pcd
   ;;

3. Inserted an audio CD. It didn't work.
4. Restarted my computer in case it made my (probably non stock) event manager actually respect the automatically run handler setting.
5. Inserted an audio CD, and pCD opened.

So it should be very straightforward - you just need to write a new handler dialogue to give you the choice of what to do instead.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 03:58    Post subject:  

a. Not sure I follow instructions in step 1, but the correct boxes are ticked in the "Event Manager".

b. Carried out steps 2 through 5, but all that happens is that there is now NO autoplay of ANY audio/media player.

c. Now restoring copy of previous /usr/local/bin/drive_all file.

d. Restarted xwin ["Ctrl+Alt+backstep" then xwin], and Xfmedia now autoplays as originally.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 04:06    Post subject:  

I presume in step 2 you found the place in the file that looked the same as the fragment I posted except it didn't run pcd?
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 08:51    Post subject:  

Almost [but not quite] perfect success! Very Happy

1. Found the following 3 lines [129 to 131] in the old copy of /usr/local/bin/drive_all file.
Code:
1) #audio
   ln -snf /dev/${ONEDRVNAME} /dev/cdrom
   exec defaultmediaplayer cdda://


2. Replaced those 3 lines with:
Code:
1) #audio
   ln -snf /dev/${ONEDRVNAME} /dev/cdrom
   exec pcd


3. Now when I close the drawer with an audio CD in...
pCD opens, but doesn't play.
It's necessary to click on the play button, and then the 1st track plays.
Would be better if it autoplayed the 1st track, followed by all the others.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 14:06    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
pCD opens, but doesn't play.
It's necessary to click on the play button, and then the 1st track plays.
Would be better if it autoplayed the 1st track, followed by all the others.

I'll put it to the todo-list


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 17:06    Post subject:  

I am of the opinion, if playing an audio cd is to be the default action when a cd is inserted, that it should be an option. I don't always want to play my cd. I may want to rip it with pcdripper or ripoff or copy it with Pburn.

Rob, maybe I should have said that earlier Smile . I feel many people would would echo my opinion. This is why I said that it wouldn't be worth pursuing.

Just my 2 cents.

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