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pCD 1.5 - CD-audio player
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alex12

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jun 2009, 20:52    Post_subject:  

Wow! There has been a lot of progress since .2.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2009, 08:44    Post_subject:  

Well Done Sylvander/Zigbert! Smile A significant contribution to "just works", and another reason for people not to throw away an old P.C. It can now be used as a simple CD player, by those with *no previous linux knowledge*. Very Happy

Im actually on a clients machine now with only puppy 2.15ce (without hotplug), so I cannot test. 01Micko, yes I see that there is a case for people that wish to customize their system or use particular apps for playing/ripping. pCD has a "rip" function included now, so this covers the two main functions that are possible/desired by users when they insert a CD. For someone new to linux, with no previous knowledge, finding out how to do that would involve many hours of research (especially if it involves editing BASH scripts).

Overall I believe having pcd open and play the cd (with the rip button visible) would at least do the most commonly desired option (to play the cd) and the audio from it would act at least as a confirmation to the user that the correct disk was entered before they pressed the "rip" button if so desired.

Doing nothing is not an option Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2009, 09:43    Post_subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
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If our aim is to be "friendly to Linux Newbies", then we should not expect them to embark on learning curves for them to be able to be able to do the things Windows did for them automatically.


Yes, let's leave learning and thinking out of it.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2009, 10:43    Post_subject:  

1. "let's leave learning and thinking out of it"
Ever since I 1st got a PC at Xmas 2006. I've been thinking and learning on that topic EVERY SINGLE DAY.
But that's a necessity as dictated by NEED, NOT the object of the exercise.
And my wife and 3 "kids" [born 1975, 1979, 1984] refuse to expend the effort that I do in learning about PC's.
They are ordinary PC users; I'm an "enthusiast".
I'm struggling to get them to take an interest in Puppy Linux, making backups, etc, so I need additional difficulties on things that aught to be simple, like I need a hole in the head.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 03:29    Post_subject:  

Can somebody please explain to me what on earth learning and thinking have to do with it?
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For someone new to linux, with no previous knowledge, finding out how to do that would involve many hours of research

?
Or 30 seconds of reading the menu?

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 05:33    Post_subject:  

I asked my wife if she knew how to rip and burn an audio CD.

She said: "What's rip and burn?"

Would you mind thinking about it, and learning how to do it?

She said: "No thanks!", and got on with more important things. Very Happy

By-the-way, she's an ex-policewoman, who now helps people who have Multiple Sclerosis.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 07:38    Post_subject:  

Version 0.9
See main post

changelog
- read disc without rerendering gui
- gui cleanup
- autoplay 1. track after reading disc. (thanks to Sylvander)
- Buttons 'read disc' and 'eject' are now always reachable.
- Bugfix: improved compatibility with manually added cd-text info in Pburn.
- Bugfix: Faster disc-read without internet.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 10:39    Post_subject:  

When I run from the command line in 4.2.1 I get this, repeating on a roughly one second interval... (this is from a legal CDR of some of my friends music he gave me). Although it picks up the track listing I it does not autoplay, plus the "play" button does not start the track, with no notification

Code:

/dev/cdrom:
setting cdrom speed to 2
setting dvd streaming speed to 2
 dvd speed setting failed: Input/output error
aplay: main:564: audio open error: Device or resource busy
Type: ROM, Vendor 'SONY    ' Model 'CD-ROM CDU311   ' Revision '3.0i' MMC+CDDA
569344 bytes buffer memory requested, 4 buffers, 55 sectors
#icedax version 1.1.6, real time sched., soundcard, libparanoia support
AUDIOtrack pre-emphasis  copy-permitted tracktype channels
      1- 5           no             yes     audio    2
Table o
/dev/cdrom:
setting cdrom speed to 2
setting dvd streaming speed to 2
 dvd speed setting failed: Input/output error
aplay: main:564: audio open error: Device or resource busy
Type: ROM, Vendor 'SONY    ' Model 'CD-ROM CDU311   ' Revision '3.0i' MMC+CDDA
569344 bytes buffer memory requested, 4 buffers, 55 sectors
#icedax version 1.1.6, real time sched., soundcard, libparanoia support
AUDIOtrack pre-emphasis  copy-permitted tracktype channels
      1- 5           no             yes     audio    2
Table of Contents: total tracks:5, (total time 25:06.07)
  1.( 6:48.37),  2.( 3:33.28),  3.( 5:25.35),  4.( 4:34.00),  5.( 4:44.57),

Table of Contents: starting sectors
  1.(       0),  2.(   30637),  3.(   46640),  4.(   71050),  5.(   91600),
 lead-out(  112957)
CDINDEX discid: 9P7.UzsQIEw7i7.C3HzDU9fSu5E-
CDDB discid: 0x3005e205
CD-Text: not detected
CD-Extra: not detected
Incorrect start track setting: 14
Please use -help or consult the man page for help.
f Contents: total tracks:5, (total time 25:06.07)
  1.( 6:48.37),  2.( 3:33.28),  3.( 5:25.35),  4.( 4:34.00),  5.( 4:44.57),

Table of Contents: starting sectors
  1.(       0),  2.(   30637),  3.(   46640),  4.(   71050),  5.(   91600),
 lead-out(  112957)
CDINDEX discid: 9P7.UzsQIEw7i7.C3HzDU9fSu5E-
CDDB discid: 0x3005e205
CD-Text: not detected
CD-Extra: not detected
Incorrect start track setting: 14
Please use -help or consult the man page for help.


I have tested the cd and it plays fine on a stock dedicated CD player.

Using a legal factory burnt cd (not a CDR) I get

Code:
aplay: main:564: audio open error: Device or resource busy
Type: ROM, Vendor 'SONY    ' Model 'CD-ROM CDU311   ' Revision '3.0i' MMC+CDDA
569344 bytes buffer memory requested, 4 buffers, 55 sectors
#icedax version 1.1.6, real time sched., soundcard, libparanoia support
AUDIOtrack pre-emphasis  copy-permitted tracktype channels
      1-16           no              no     audio    2
Table of Contents: total tracks:16, (total time 77:29.63)
  1.( 7:31.04),  2.( 5:11.58),  3.( 3:29.66),  4.( 4:11.64),  5.( 5:05.11),
  6.( 4:25.53),  7.( 3:57.57),  8.( 4:43.02),  9.( 5:38.49), 10.( 4:59.74),
 11.( 4:38.61), 12.( 4:52.45), 13.( 3:22.67), 14.( 4:15.70), 15.( 5:46.13),
 16.( 5:18.44)

Table of Contents: starting sectors
  1.(       0),  2.(   33829),  3.(   57212),  4.(   72953),  5.(   91842),
  6.(  114728),  7.(  134656),  8.(  152488),  9.(  173715), 10.(  199114),
 11.(  221613), 12.(  242524), 13.(  264469), 14.(  279686), 15.(  298881),
 16.(  324844), lead-out(  348738)
CDINDEX discid: 0dfqq.yaBIBrAW.aIgjY1KOv0hU-
CDDB discid: 0xf6122910
CD-Text: not detected
CD-Extra: not detected
Incorrect start track setting: 89
Please use -help or consult the man page for help.


The CD is "The very best of tried and tested Euphoria Mixed by Judge Jules" Which I would expect to be in the ccdb (this machine is internet connected). I would like to point out this CD is definetly not mine (I prefer music with real instruments in it!).

With regard output from puppy 2.15ce. there is not command line output with 0.9. Just the "PCD Audio Player .... Reading Disk" splash screen appears and does not disappear. There is no activity on the drive according to the indicator light on the CD. I dont know how to check the GTK version in 2.15CE sorry.

Update:-

Have taken a quick look into the code on 2.15ce. I see that the /usr/local/pcd/pcd script calls /usr/local/pcd/func with the "-probe" parameter on line 22. So I tried just typing "./func -probe" while in the same directory and got...

Code:
./func: line 23:  /box_splash: No such file or directory
./func: line 25: /func: No such file or directory





Many thanks for your continued work zigbert.

@ Sylvander, Ive seen exactly the same thing. People use a computer because of the time it saves them. If they have to take a productivity drop and go on a lurning curve when switching to linux then thats something that will keep them using Windows. I donated a few computers to the local Multiple Sclerosis group...your wifes is correct, her time is better spent using the computer to help these people than to learn computer terminology.

Someone I know who tried puppy recently (who is a computer enthusiast) and went back to windows said...puppy is great in that its fast and its free, its just you have to tell it to do every single little thing and that gets annoying, and its time consuming to learn too....the "Just works" mission objective is still obviously a "work in progress" Laughing

Of course the computer enthusiasts hold different personal preferences on how their computer should work, and they should be available as a customisation (this is Linux not Windows!), but the default setup should "just work" for the lowest common denominator (that would be the people in my town lol).[/code]

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 11:36    Post_subject:  

Ecomoney
Are your problems only in version 0.9?
I need to know if I have bugged something......


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 12:57    Post_subject:  

Yes, tested pCD version 0.9, on puppy 4.2.1 and 2.15ce.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 17:17    Post_subject:  

ecomoney
It could be my terrible english, but you didn't answer my question.

Are your problems only in version 0.9, or did they also occur in older versions?
I need to know if I have bugged something......


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2009, 07:22    Post_subject:  

I dont believe so, but I would like to double check. Where can your previous versions be downloaded (we have to do something about that mirror!).
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2009, 08:44    Post_subject:  

Ok

First time I tried pCD (0.9) on my laptop... IBM R31 Thinkpad, celeron 1066, 512ram... works fine as in I can hear the CD but no info... it has a LG cdrom drive... curious that... remember when I had problems on my Dino? ... LG CDrom drive... as soon as I installed a burner there were no problems...

It seems in 2 cases of LG cdrom drives (not burners) I have problems. Yes, weird.

Works fine on the Dino with a different drive, I will try a different drive on the laptop.

Oh, btw, works ok in Barry's 415... latest alpha Wink on my P3 600... NOT an LG drive! (BTC BCC 1610IM)??? (whatever that is!) CD recorder. Rolling Eyes

Rob.. I do not get your errors. Strange. However, I do agree with one thing.

Quote:
I prefer music with real instruments in it!


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2009, 14:21    Post_subject:  

Here's 0.8
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul 2009, 06:33    Post_subject:  

If you ever write a "help" for pCD it would be worth mentioning that it can't play mixed-mode CDs (or whatever they are - the ones that are an audio CD and a CD ROM) if they are mounted. cdda2wav seems to want exclusive access to the device.
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