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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 15:28    Post subject:  

now thats just plain freaky man, lol
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markofkane


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 15:31    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy
@markofkane,
Try here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/test/woof-alpha9/


Thanks, it's only 7 mb? Or will it be a lot bigger after decompression?
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 15:35    Post subject:  

markofkane wrote:
puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy
@markofkane,
Try here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/test/woof-alpha9/


Thanks, it's only 7 mb? Or will it be a lot bigger after decompression?

Thats to build it, it will download around 400 packages if you use that,
If your looking for the just the Upup iso to try, then download
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/test/woof-alpha9/upup-476.iso
109MB
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 15:41    Post subject:  

Thanks, I am not much on building it from scratch. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 16:03    Post subject:  

bugman wrote:

[boo]


Don't do that! You'll scare the kids off!

(Originally I said, "You'll give a bloke heart failure!"... bugman was too quick for me... must be the beard...)

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 16:09    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
bugman wrote:

[boo]


Don't do that! You'll give a bloke heart failure!


wot, a slayer fan?

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 16:14    Post subject:  

"Reign in Blood"... now there's a theme!
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 16:28    Post subject:  

Since where was it we were designing an operating system aimed at semi-retired people with an interest in linux internals who remember black and white TV? Puppy Linux should not just be intellectual exercise for computer experts (with beards). If we want Puppy Linux to be a useful and beneficial piece of technology to as many people as possible (which Im ASSUMING is the case) then it needs to appeal to as many people as possible, of all ages/races/social backgrounds.

Sophie is no academic computer graduate, or the most elequent writer....but neither is she stupid or a child. She has an interest in working computers, but no interest in how computers work. Why should she face agism when she is coming on here (for free) to give the feedback from her testing? WhoDo, youve shown a great many various prejudices on here which hold you back when co-ordinating large voluntary inclusive project. It makes me very proud that you cite me as one of the reasons that you will not be continuing the overall co-ordination of the Puppy Linux project.

@Bugman,
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as regards boring, a long time ago a good friend said she thought there were two types of people in the world, boring people and stupid people


Ive never met anyone so stupid I cant learn anything from them...

You make a good point about the "no wallpaper"....when you wish to sell your house for the best price, you would paint it in attractive, but fairly neutral colours, without undue "personalisation".

Back to the issue of the colourscheme, to attract the most users...Puppy should have a default theme of neutral colours....and the wallpaper should be plain with relatively little pattern/design so as not to detract from the functions (icons).

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 16:45    Post subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
WhoDo, youve shown a great many various prejudices on here which hold you back when co-ordinating large voluntary inclusive project.


Never miss a chance to be a sh*t do you!

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 19:13    Post subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
Since where was it we were designing an operating system aimed at semi-retired people with an interest in linux internals who remember black and white TV?

To quote Tonto in the ageless joke about the Lone Ranger, "Who 'we' white man?" We is meant to be an inclusive term, but you don't seem to want to include anyone who isn't in your immediate field of vision! Since when were YOU "designing" anything? Is that your latest claim to "fame"; that you helped "design" Puppy Linux? Thank goodness your web site went down to remove the blasphemy it was still proclaiming - that you were the "Project Manager" for the Puppy Talking Stick project. Take it down yourself out of sheer embarrassment, did you? The world is not Scunny and Scunny is not the world!

ecomoney wrote:
Puppy Linux should not just be intellectual exercise for computer experts (with beards). If we want Puppy Linux to be a useful and beneficial piece of technology to as many people as possible (which Im ASSUMING is the case) then it needs to appeal to as many people as possible, of all ages/races/social backgrounds.

So having a beard makes one an "intellectual" and a computer expert with an "interest in Linux internals"? Hmmmmm...AFAIK until recently Bugman hadn't ventured beyond his much beloved Puppy 1.07! Yeah, you're right, he's REALLY into "experimenting" with computers and Linux internals! He is certainly an expert,though; at squeezing the most value he can out of something before even considering moving on!

ecomoney wrote:
Sophie is no academic computer graduate, or the most elequent writer....but neither is she stupid or a child. She has an interest in working computers, but no interest in how computers work. Why should she face agism when she is coming on here (for free) to give the feedback from her testing?

Agism? Oh, you mean Ageism! Since when is asking someone how old they are "stereotyping" or "discrimination". Actually I was taking my lead on Sophie's age from her somewhat juvenile alias - sophiebabi - and her insistance on what "kids" might want. I was merely attempting to confirm that.

I like to try to understand a person's social source of reference before responding to them; it helps to AVOID addressing them in discriminatory terms and either talking above their heads or talking down to them. If Sophie wants to be taken seriously, she should stop talking, and acting, like a child. Only children make selfish demands without genuine concern for anyone but themselves. I want bright colours ... wah ... I'm bored ... wah ... I want facebook chat ... wah... you're boring ... brrrttttt .... speaks volumes, doesn't it?

ecomoney wrote:
WhoDo, youve shown a great many various prejudices on here which hold you back when co-ordinating large voluntary inclusive project. It makes me very proud that you cite me as one of the reasons that you will not be continuing the overall co-ordination of the Puppy Linux project.

Ah, pride! I take pride in building things up, not tearing them down. But then I'm not a lazy "foreman"-type with a giant sized chip on my shoulder and no ambitions beyond self agrandisement! I'm sure your "work" in Scunny and surrounds makes you feel like a "big man on campus", Rob. If that's the extent of your ambition you've made it, man!

ecomoney wrote:
Back to the issue of the colourscheme, to attract the most users...Puppy should have a default theme of neutral colours....and the wallpaper should be plain with relatively little pattern/design so as not to detract from the functions (icons).

...and back to business as usual for ecomoney - telling other people what will and won't do/be/happen blah blah. How can you get that giant ego of yours in out of the rain? I tried to tell you nicely; people who develop voluntarily for Puppy don't like being told what to do! If you want something different than you're getting, do it yourself! Now to tell you again, not so nicely ... ttuuxxx has you pegged IMO. What words did he use...nob, tool, ... something like that? Good call, ttuuxxx!

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 19:31    Post subject: Re: my reply  

sophiebabi wrote:
For you information 'WhoDo' Rob is not not my uncle or my 'Daddy' as you put it I am the babysitter.

You should never ask a female how old they are that is just damn right rude.

Ah, the babysitter! I knew there was a direct connection there. Thank you for confirming it!

"Never", dear Sophie, is an absolute. Speaking in absolutes gives others the impression that you have some special knowledge or expertise on a subject. I seldom use them. As for asking your age, I had no choice, really. You were "behaving" in a somewhat childish manner, and since I cannot see you (from your avatar) and have no detail in your profile here, I have no choice but to ask to avoid embarrassment for both of us!

BTW, the expression is "downright rude" not "damn right rude", ok? Just thought you'd like to know. Now, if you'd like to continue expressing your OPINION of what young people might like in an interface, please feel free to do so, but be sure to identify it as an OPINION and not a fact. IMO (In My Opinion) or IMHO (In My Humble Opinion) are two good shortcut ways for doing that in a text-based forum. And please, dear Sophie, stop making apparent DEMANDS about things like Facebook Chat, and instead be polite enough to ASK for your requests to be considered along with everyone else's.

Have a nice day, Sophie.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 21:54    Post subject:  

egomoney wrote:
Puppy Linux should not just be intellectual exercise for computer experts (with beards).


i didn't realize you might be addressing me with this pearl, but it's funny, i AM the newbie you are always whining about, never able to figure out linux until i stumbled onto puppy

while i have learned a mountain in the last couple of years, i still am not enough of an 'expert' to help with development, and remain a simple user, like those you claim to champion

egomoney wrote:
Ive never met anyone so stupid I cant learn anything from them...


oh now i am REALLY laughing . . .

[perhaps this is the source of the problem?]

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 21:59    Post subject:  

Hmmm, I have a beard.... Laughing

Maybe we could have a "bearded" theme...

edit; (Kerry King also has a beard, lead guitar, Slayer: at last pic, BarryK had a beard; Santa has a beard)

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 22:01    Post subject:  

up against the wall, 'expert'!
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 22:07    Post subject:  

I also have a beard... well ,gotee .....
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