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Woof alpha8 iso uploaded
These are quick bugfixes of alpha7. There are three fixes:

1. The "black desktop" on slow PCs.
2. 'localedef' causes hang at bootup on 64MB PCs.
3. Busybox 'mkswap' dumped in favour of full utility.

If you have these problems download and please test again
Anyone stitching together and hosting complete iso please let us know

I have the black screen again just after the initrd where the message 'loading drivers to access disks' should be.
Comment made in Barry's log

Below my config.

UPUP alpha 8

Identical problems to my previous post on alpha 7. Post repeated below:-

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Computer 1:- MSI K7N2 mobo, Athlon xp 2500, 1024 meg memory, ATI Radeon 9800 pro graphics (128 meg memory)

Everything I have tried works fine. Even recognised my Canon MFP for printing and scanning.

Computer 2:- ASUS A7V8X-X mobo, Athlon xp 1833 MHz, 1024 meg memory, Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400 graphics (32 meg memory)
This computer runs all puppies up to and including 4.2 using XOrg or XVesa.

XOrg locks the computer completely with a black screen. Not even ctrl/alt/backspace works. Only way out is to use the power button to shut down the computer.
XVesa works BUT defaults to 640 x 480 res
a) drive icons sometimes appear
b) change the res to 1024 x 768 x 16 and the drive icons disappear never to be seen again. Desktop drive icons manager has no effect
c) PMount does not work. Click on any drive/partition (or the preferences button) and it just shuts down
d) once the resolution has been changed "reboot", "power off" and "restart X server" all restart X server. In other words I cannot shut down the computer (and so get no save file)
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Ledster

Lobster, please see my post in Cutting Edge, thanks.

Same set of problems I reported for upup-471
BS

I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found

Before puplets were the only linuxes booting up on that machine without any problems (yay for puppy linux). I hope that won't change for the 5.x series
Checked the live-cds with md5 and on another machine; that one found the sfs (got later problem, i'll do a second bug report )

Any ideas? Anything I should/could try out?

that machine is a Gericom Blockbuster N251S1 laptop;
Pentium 4 (not mobile), 512 MB RAM
no harddisk
broken PCMCIA
broken ethernet ( I'm using a usb ethernet adapter with the kaweth driver )
CD/DVD-RW

p.s.:
basically no OS is good on that machine, just puppy does the trick (usually); i use it mostly for going to the web with a ultra-clean system, but would love to integrate it into my sound infrastructure via pulseaudio (i hope that would work on a upup or dpup)

Update on my earlier post above.

Dug around in my spares box and found another agp video card - an Abit Siluro gf2 mx/mx400 (16 or 32 meg ram. Not sure which and don't know how to find out in linux).
Anyway, fitted it and now upup alpha 8 runs fine, so must have been a video hardware incompatibility. Although why a geforce 2 mx 400 won't run and a gf2 mx/mx400 will I can't think.

Posting this from alpha 8 running xorg at 1024 x 768.

Ledster

flugwelpe wrote:I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found

Before puplets were the only linuxes booting up on that machine without any problems (yay for puppy linux). I hope that won't change for the 5.x series
Checked the live-cds with md5 and on another machine; that one found the sfs (got later problem, i'll do a second bug report )

Any ideas? Anything I should/could try out?

that machine is a Gericom Blockbuster N251S1 laptop;
Pentium 4 (not mobile), 512 MB RAM
no harddisk
broken PCMCIA
broken ethernet ( I'm using a usb ethernet adapter with the kaweth driver )
CD/DVD-RW

p.s.:
basically no OS is good on that machine, just puppy does the trick (usually); i use it mostly for going to the web with a ultra-clean system, but would love to integrate it into my sound infrastructure via pulseaudio (i hope that would work on a upup or dpup)

I alwase copy the upup-xxx.sfs to /mnt/home first.

Béèm wrote:

flugwelpe wrote:I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found

...
no harddisk
...

I alwase copy the upup-xxx.sfs to /mnt/home first.

Hm, that machine doesn't have a harddisk and isn't supposed to keep data (ensuring that I always start with an untouched system). So I'm not sure, how I could manually copy the sfs *scratch-head*.

Baf!

Showstopper dPup bug.

Managed to get a bootable build of dPup - but, on re-booting and selecting a partition for storing the pup_save, an error message-box pops up "error - you have not selected a partition for saving the the pup_save". The only choice there is to press ESC and exit without saving.

There were some non-existent packages flagged by the 0setup script - missing libfaac and libdrm_intel1 plus libdrm-nouveau1. I had a second shot at it after downloading these packages from Ubuntu, but did not successfully alter the package list file so that the error-message got suppressed. I then just ignored that and proceeded anyway without touching the package list file.

The 1download script seemed to run and exit OK

The 2createpackages script reported one error about a missing xorg_xserver package. I downloaded that separately from packages.debian .org whereupon the script ran and terminated OK.

The ISO booted and then configured and started X OK.
Again the dPup versions seem faster than the others. Pity about the pup_save problem.

I reckon this would make an ideal base for building a puplet for netbooks, Asus eeepc etc

Maybe the Ubuntu netbook-launcher front-end could be cut down and/or adapted for Puppy Woof series. I've already had a go at this, but I can't get the desktop to start. Or maybe a complete rewrite is in order here.

Ttuuxxx could maybe help here with chopping down the size and making a nicer icon set. A custom-designed splash screen for eeepc plus even more bling would help to "sell" it.

Here's hoping that dPup will eventually build successfully, so that a start can be made on this.

I found that Samba shares were not available, so I copied across the Samba folder from 420 and rebooted, now they work.

I made a small pet to try for the problem.

It should create a folder in opt called Samba.

NOTE: First version wouldn't install correctly, should be fixed now.

flugwelpe wrote:

Béèm wrote:

flugwelpe wrote:I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found

...
no harddisk
...

I alwase copy the upup-xxx.sfs to /mnt/home first.

Hm, that machine doesn't have a harddisk and isn't supposed to keep data (ensuring that I always start with an untouched system). So I'm not sure, how I could manually copy the sfs *scratch-head*.

Did you do an installation to some media, or do you only boot from CD?

Béèm wrote:

flugwelpe wrote:I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found
...
Hm, that machine doesn't have a harddisk and isn't supposed to keep data (ensuring that I always start with an untouched system)...

Did you do an installation to some media, or do you only boot from CD?

No installation whatsoever. Boot from CD.

flugwelpe wrote:

Béèm wrote:

flugwelpe wrote:I didn't have luck with the 'wooflets' so far..
Tried alpha 6 to 8 and all of them dropped out of the booting process when trying to find the sfs; e.g. :

upup-471.sfs not found
...
Hm, that machine doesn't have a harddisk and isn't supposed to keep data (ensuring that I always start with an untouched system)...

Did you do an installation to some media, or do you only boot from CD?

No installation whatsoever. Boot from CD.

At the 5 second prompt type puppy pmedia=cd
Maybe this helps.

As the 473 didn't boot on my desktop, I tried on the laptop (IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 1,4Ghz)
It boots and I could make a upupsave file.
Did the network wizard to configure my ipw2100 WiFi device.
Connection went well.
At next boot I didn't have connection.
The profile I saved is still available, but not loaded. I have to do it by hand. After that I get via dhcp the IP

This is the first time I have this on this machine with all the puppy's I tried before, 3.x, 4.x and Woof up to 473
Is there a change in the network setup?

Béèm wrote:

flugwelpe wrote:

Béèm wrote:Did you do an installation to some media, or do you only boot from CD?

No installation whatsoever. Boot from CD.

At the 5 second prompt type puppy pmedia=cd
Maybe this helps.

nope...
also tried with pfix=ram and pfix=copy combinations; boot debug also didnt show anything helpful.
downloading alpha-9 right now, but i suppose that won't change much.

In the context of a pfix=ram boot, the message 'Searching fo Puppy files in computer disk drives...' strikes me as a bit odd.

Is there a way to mount the cdrom on that console?
Tried mounting via /dev/hd... and /dev/scd0

ok, woof alpha 9 didn't help; but maybe I have a bigger problem on that machine;
seems like >4.1 only works with the retro kernel.

thanks for the help so far, you are great
4.2.1 retro freezes my keyboard though, so i'll try to fix that first and after that reopen my woof issues in the to-be-current woof thread

update: reopened at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=45

if somebody could comment on these, i would be glad:

flugwelpe wrote: In the context of a pfix=ram boot, the message 'Searching fo Puppy files in computer disk drives...' strikes me as a bit odd.

Is there a way to mount the cdrom on that boot console?
Tried mounting via /dev/hd... and /dev/scd0