Upup Alpha7

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Upup Alpha7

#1 Post by Lobster »

Woof Alpha7 released
http://www.puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00741

Press f2 within 5 secs (new boot up image and auto numbering)
and then puppy pfix=ram
that will give you a pristine boot up (not load or update other Puppy versions)

Download = OK
Bootup = OK

Is anyone getting (see enclosed drawing) a time bottom right that looks like that? If you do a snapshot it says AM as it should - but it displays weird. Mmm seems the whole right side of the image display is stretched out - so for example the vertical scrollbar in Seamonkey seems very fat - just about to change resolution - I did try adding Nvidia drivers from package manger - gonna try some stuff - will be back . . .

Also Mt paint has no jpg output?

Just hope it is not the Chronology Protection Agency :?
http://tmxxine.com/w/ChronologyProtectionAgency

OK was not the nvidia drivers but was specific to the 1024*768 res
I have upped the res, using xorgwizard and the effect is gone . . .
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Pnethood Samba Shares not showing shares

#2 Post by Martin »

My 2 cts worth:

* Pnethood Samba Shares is not finding any shares. The computers are found, but no shares.

Has worked flawlessly before with older Puppies. I have tested it on 3 machines (factory standard Compaqs D510 D530 D330) and as I'm running a mixed environment it's a real showstopper for me.

* After choosing and starting Xvesa, there is no option to choose the resolution. After choosing to reboot, X restarted. Second time Puppy rebooted Ok.

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#3 Post by tasmod »

Same problem as previous version. Unable to test it.

Wireless keyboard no longer functions once puppy pfix=ram stage is passed.

Compared to dialogue in 4.2 it appears it is not recognised as it doesn't show optical mouse, keyboard during 'recognising media devices' boot.
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#4 Post by tasmod »

OK, brought out a spare laptop. Boots fine and loads all OK.

Display good but dull in flat grey ( not a prob)

Seems very fast so far, I've further testing to do.

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#5 Post by tasmod »

Ok. So far clicking on 'Write' icon does nothing, all else works.

Same report on Paint as other poster, no jpg listed as save.
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#6 Post by Lobster »

tasmod wrote:Ok. So far clicking on 'Write' icon does nothing, all else works.
write works for me . . .
what happens if you type
# abiword
at the console?
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#7 Post by tasmod »

Works at console. :? Will link it.

Can't get PupTV to work in either mplayer or gxine by selecting station?
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#8 Post by tubby »

No xorg only low resolution vesa on a Dell Inspiron1150, this is the same with all upup releases so far.
Xorg ok on a Toshiba Portege but onboard wifi not recognised.
Same .config files in wrong location message.

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#9 Post by Lobster »

tasmod wrote:gxine by selecting station?
Mplyer was not working previously - known issue and I also have this problem but I managed to watch the news, Fox and BBC and the SF station with gxine (a giant computer robot was taking over a planet - things don't change much - except now we call it Google)

Try again because the first time I got nothing (blank screen for BBC but with sound . . .)
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#10 Post by janeee »

Swedish keyboard works with AltGr and 2 = @ right from the start of the Live CD in Upup Alpha 7, very good.

SeaMonkey Composer HTML editor works with the Swedish spell-checking in the SeaMonkey browser, very good.

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Re: Pnethood Samba Shares not showing shares

#11 Post by techtype »

Martin wrote:
* Pnethood Samba Shares is not finding any shares. The computers are found, but no shares.

Has worked flawlessly before with older Puppies. I have tested it on 3 machines (factory standard Compaqs D510 D530 D330) and as I'm running a mixed environment it's a real showstopper for me.
Confirmed by me also --- showstopper here too.

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#12 Post by ttuuxxx »

This Is just a help item for Upup, Barry's had tried getting the latest Mplayer working, and had issues, so I looked at the Ubuntu Jaunty version and removed what Upup has and this is the difference of missing libs. I couldn't post it on his forum because it exceeded his max limit of characters.
:) ttuuxxx

dep: libaa1 (>= 1.4p5)
ascii art library

dep: libaudio2
Network Audio System - shared libraries

dep: libcaca0 (>= 0.99.beta15-1)
colour ASCII art library

dep: libdv4
software library for DV format digital video (runtime lib)

dep: libenca0 (>= 1.9)
Extremely Naive Charset Analyser - shared library files

dep: libfaac0 (>= 1.26)
an AAC audio encoder - library files

dep: libggi2 (>= 1:2.2.2)
General Graphics Interface runtime libraries

dep: libjack0 (>= 0.116.1)
JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries)

dep: liblzo2-2
data compression library

dep: libmpcdec3
Musepack (MPC) format library

dep: libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3)
Ogg Bitstream Library

dep: libopenal1
Software implementation of the OpenAL API (libraries)

dep: libpulse0 (>= 0.9.14)
PulseAudio client libraries

dep: libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1)
Simple DirectMedia Layer

dep: libsmbclient (>= 3.0.24)
shared library for communication with SMB/CIFS servers

dep: libspeex1 (>= 1.2~beta3-1)
The Speex codec runtime library

dep: libsvga1
console SVGA display libraries
also a virtual package provided by svgalib1-libggi2

dep: libx264-65 (>= 1:0.svn20081230)
x264 video coding library

dep: libxvidcore4 (>= 1:1.0.0-0.0)
High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library

dep: libxvmc1
X11 Video extension library

dep: libxxf86dga1
X11 Direct Graphics Access extension library

dep: mplayer-skins
Skins for the Ubuntu mplayer Package

dep: ttf-bitstream-vera
The Bitstream Vera family of free TrueType fonts

dep: ttf-dejavu
Metapackage to pull in ttf-dejavu-core and ttf-dejavu-extra

dep: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
compression library - runtime

sug: ladspa-sdk
sample tools for linux-audio-dev plugin architecture

sug: mplayer-doc
The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux (Documentation)

sug: w32codecs
Package not available
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#13 Post by ARAN »

I am writing this here from UPUP 4.71.
The new release looks and feels great.

Mounting drives with PMount dont work.
The manual mount from the console "mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/data" works however.

I have a question about the woof build system.

If i want to remaster upup with the woof build system what for i file do i need to change to shrink the size of the new build .

Is this the File with the name "Packages-puppy-woof-official" ?

If i understand the "3builddistro" Script the variable "PKGS_SPECS_TABLE" in the file "DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-ubuntu" is only used for additional packages to be builded in ?

What i want also to know is if i decide to use the ubuntu database how many packages would be downloaded and compiled in woof.
All packages that are in the ubuntu database or only those packages that are selected for building upup ?

I am asking this becouse i want to try to build a barebone upup and i dont have interesst to download and compile hundreds of heavy weight packages that i dont need for this build !

Thanks for the answer
Greetings aran.

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#14 Post by Flash »

Barry, when you announce a new release on your blog, please include a URL of where you want the discussions and bug reports. There are already two threads in the Puppy Linux forum. I locked one. There are probably discussions and bugs being reported on other sites as well.

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#15 Post by ARAN »

I have booted with "puppy pfix=ram"
For some reason i cant reboot nor i can shutdown the pc from the menu !

The selected keyboard Locale "de-CH" is also not working somehow.
I am asking my self if this could be related to the fact that i have booted upup with xvesa and not with xorg.

What i dont understand is the fact that at the boot time
UPUP show only a small amount of keyboard layout.
But after this Dialog it come up with a new dialog for setting the locales and in this dialog it show all know and available locales.

Does it really need the first dialog anymore ?

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#16 Post by `f00 »

testing on: i686 machine
processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz
RAM - 512M
vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP
vidcard1 - not used (switched in BIOS), PCI
soundcard - emu10k1 (aka Creative Audigy 2 ZS or SB0350)
boot/save - liveCD(rw media)/.2fs on thumbdrive
limitations - no printer, no internet connection

090521______
Well, the 'delete-all-in-/tmp' workaround enabled real reboot/poweroff/save as well as a usual prompt-to-exit dropping out of X (which made for easy switching of wms). Stayed entirely in Xvesa since some complications (for me) almost always ensue on this machine with Xorg.

Some observations:
1) click un/mount of .sfs files fails in Rox - of course any pup won't normally do this with its own 'in-use'.sfs, but sometimes it's helpful to be able to look/access inside other sfs files. Not sure if it may work as a bootoption (that's still somewhat foreign territory for me as it's been iffy in the past with untried .sfs files that may have not been compatible).

2) installs and mods - generally work well.
a) Xvesa display came up reliably in my preferred 1024x768x24 (a note on that: it needs to be wizarded twice, once to set the change and again to "OK" it .. the OK dialog is not automatically presented after the change/re-X).
b) pet installs, font additions and general mods to icons, .desktop files and such all go as expected. Very nice to have it all working and comfy - having save work and being able to exit-to-prompt, etc did wonders for the 'gee, this might work for me after all' feeling. Even did a fresh mod of the flat-gray jwm theme so it made more sense to me (like to use highlight-bg rather than dim-bg active menu-items, etc), but that's just gui.
c) gedit became unstable for me (but medit is fine, as was an update to geany17 .. leafpad and zedit continue well as simple editors)

3) a few annoyances (some of which likely are my own fault²..)
a) driveicons (mountedstate) now give an initial 'safety(?)' orangesplashmssg rather than simply open Rox for that drive when clicked on - very minor but annoying (if I want to unmount I rightclick.. anyone else getting this new 'feature'splash?)
b) occasionally pmount pops up repeatedly when clicking on a driveicon. It wouldn't be so awful if pmount worked (the gui still disappears whenever any button pressed .. then pmount pops up again for that drive .. looks like that drive is inaccessable until it's not). Something wrong with the gtk? (I see symlinks for gtk3whatever in /tmp looks like relative to pmount)
c) trashicons revert to original
d) remaster fails still (gui disappears .. a gtk issue?)
e) somewhere along the way sound was lost - tried fiddling with /etc/modprobe.d dir .. moving *.conf files into and back from original /etc location and various cl mssgs at boot or prompt, "ignoring bad lines" when some .conf files are in /etc/modprobe.d dir and modprobe.conf seems to constantly be re-created in /etc ...

10X for workaround, @tubby!

090514 (earlier)______
Not much positive to say about upup-471 as yet. Burned both a 'normal' and a multi-session CD (normal burn-verified, multi didn't but was correct as to content).

Normal booted oki, chose Xvesa since Xorg a non-starter. About the same as I experienced with upup-461 testing in getting it semi-functional (as little as possible to 1st "Reboot"/re-X, driveicons and freememapp info appeared, then real Reboot and save-dialogue (saved to thumbdrive .2fs file since CD burned normal).

There was a fleeting 'WARNING Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf should belong in /etc/modprobe.d/' mssg that appeared towards end of reboots when they were happening.

Good news and progress is that for the first time ever for me, alsa works out-of-the-box and sound is audible without having to alsamixer run and set the sliders and unmute almost all.
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² - was still using the 090424'kludge' for static driveicons/PuppyPin, perhaps it's not needed any more (but generally it's worked oki for my purposes as I tend to prefer a static column rather than a more-or-less variable row :| 'cleaning' was a small disaster in upup-461 for me)
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#17 Post by tronkel »

Although ext4 partition is detected in Pmount, it cannot be mounted from there.

Tried to mount it from the command line, but no joy there either.
# mount -a /dev/sda4 /mnt/test
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4,
missing codepage or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail or so
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Doesnt Boot

#18 Post by Firefox »

I`m booting from cd untill I get an `unable to switch root` message - then `Kernel panic` and I`m locked out.

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#19 Post by Béèm »

After boot, I don't get the message 'loading kernel drivers ........' and I have a black screen.
Only way to get out is power off.
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#20 Post by Ledster »

UPUP alpha 7

Good news and bad news! I have tried it on two computers.
Computer 1:- MSI K7N2 mobo, Athlon xp 2500, 1024 meg memory, ATI Radeon 9800 pro graphics (128 meg memory)

Everything I have tried works fine. Even recognised my Canon MFP for printing and scanning.

Computer 2:- ASUS A7V8X-X mobo, Athlon xp 1833 MHz, 1024 meg memory, Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400 graphics (32 meg memory)
This computer runs all puppies up to and including 4.2 using XOrg or XVesa.

XOrg locks the computer completely with a black screen. Not even ctrl/alt/backspace works. Only way out is to use the power button to shut down the computer.
XVesa works BUT defaults to 640 x 480 res
a) drive icons sometimes appear
b) change the res to 1024 x 768 x 16 and the drive icons disappear never to be seen again. Desktop drive icons manager has no effect
c) PMount does not work. Click on any drive/partition (or the preferences button) and it just shuts down
d) once the resolution has been changed "reboot", "power off" and "restart X server" all restart X server. In other words I cannot shut down the computer (and so get no save file)

Looks like UPUP does not like old computers with old graphics cards!

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