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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
24%
 24%  [ 8 ]
2.14x
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
30%
 30%  [ 10 ]
Other: 2.14x only
33%
 33%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 33

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ljfr

Joined: 23 Apr 2009
Posts: 176

PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 13:08    Post subject: feedback  

Hi,

I tested the RC1 today, except a slight disappointement with icons theme (desktop and rox),working well on a amd-k6, with speed improvement compared to a puppy 4.1.2 kernel 2.6.21.7.

Is this http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/testing/devx_214-4.pet
file the right devx for the 214 RC1?
Is there a source repository somewhere?

you will find a more detailed feedback bellow,

regards,


General feedbacks:
-With Pfix=ram, an empty dillo window opens at startup
-The default text editor is geany and the default view of geany is development oriented (with too many editors? leafpad, geany, tcl/tk editors, mp, e3).
-A menu entry for "Setup a firewall" would be nice, otherwise few user will try to set something up with firelog...
-The help file /usr/share/doc/index.html doesn't help much.
-No partition icons on desktop in Xvesa - but they appear with Xorg.
-Sheeppool herd game is slow on old computer.
-It lacks a keyboard wizard at startup.
-The high number of posts in this thread makes it difficult to find relevant information.

And on appearance
-No desktop icon switcher, and applications/name are customized so it seems usual themes are not applicable anymore.
-In Rox-filer, no button for small icons in the toolbar, and when you add it and switch to small icons, A small red vertical line appears when the file/folder name is truncated.
-In Rox-filer, in Options>>Types>>Themes>>Icon Theme, I cannot switch this theme - I just tried with JQ8flat-lite which I installed thinking it should be lighter that the current one.
-with 800x600 resolution the desktop trash icon desk is hidden by the tray.


NB: I had some issues:
-I need the param root=/dev/ram0 in the grub kernel line to boot,
-using Xvesa, each time X restarted with a new resolution settings window,
shutdown / reboot / exit to prompt did not worked, Ctrl alt backspace restarted X automatically, ... but seems ok now, not sure why.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 14:51    Post subject: Re: feedback  

ljfr wrote:
Hi,

I tested the RC1 today, except a slight disappointement with icons theme (desktop and rox),working well on a amd-k6, with speed improvement compared to a puppy 4.1.2 kernel 2.6.21.7.

Is this http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/testing/devx_214-4.pet
file the right devx for the 214 RC1?
Is there a source repository somewhere?

you will find a more detailed feedback bellow,

regards,


General feedbacks:
-With Pfix=ram, an empty dillo window opens at startup
-The default text editor is geany and the default view of geany is development oriented (with too many editors? leafpad, geany, tcl/tk editors, mp, e3).
-A menu entry for "Setup a firewall" would be nice, otherwise few user will try to set something up with firelog...
-The help file /usr/share/doc/index.html doesn't help much.
-No partition icons on desktop in Xvesa - but they appear with Xorg.
-Sheeppool herd game is slow on old computer.
-It lacks a keyboard wizard at startup.
-The high number of posts in this thread makes it difficult to find relevant information.

And on appearance
-No desktop icon switcher, and applications/name are customized so it seems usual themes are not applicable anymore.
-In Rox-filer, no button for small icons in the toolbar, and when you add it and switch to small icons, A small red vertical line appears when the file/folder name is truncated.
-In Rox-filer, in Options>>Types>>Themes>>Icon Theme, I cannot switch this theme - I just tried with JQ8flat-lite which I installed thinking it should be lighter that the current one.
-with 800x600 resolution the desktop trash icon desk is hidden by the [url]tray.


NB: I had some issues:
-I need the param root=/dev/ram0 in the grub kernel line to boot,
-using Xvesa, each time X restarted with a new resolution settings window,
shutdown / reboot / exit to prompt did not worked, Ctrl alt backspace restarted X automatically, ... but seems ok now, not sure why.


most of you issue have fixes if you look back 10 or so pages.

Icon switcher
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=369302#369302

help file update
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=370606#370606

power off
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=371417#371417

xvesa
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=367884#367884

ttuuxxx

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clarf


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 23:19    Post subject:  

Hi ljfr,

Thanks for using and testing 214X... As ttuuxxx says most issues have fixes that will be added to the next release.

For Setup wizards and other entries a Control Panel will be added too. About Rox-Filer the toolbar is fully functional, you must use left and right click over "Change icon Size" button in toolbar (I think the autosize button is not really needed).

Just wait for the next release please.

clarf
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 23:54    Post subject:  

I was playing with deb packages today, some for dpup and others for 214X.

I could install evilvte 0.4.5 in 214X, it´s a good terminal emulator with many features but I had to install many libraries and debian packages. I also could install it in Dpup, the installation was easier but I had to use and older evilvte version.

I used dpkg and dpkg-deb in 214X to get the needed libraries, but first to get dpkg to work I had to create some files in 214X. I had to create an empty file called "status" and a directory called "info" in /var/lib/dpkg/

ttuuxxx, How could i call those app just clicking a .deb package in ROX?. Would like to add one click installation functionality here, but I don´t know how to add MIME-types or associate files in Rox.

I liked evilvte it just 36 KB, but I have to find the absolute minimal libraries to make it work in 214X (the deb packages are big). Dpup already had many needed dependencies, but certainly old for the latest version of evilvte...

Greetings,

clarf

UPDATE: evilvte like sakura or lilyterm needs the libvte9 libraries, the additional weight is just 700KB. 214X is amazing, it already has the latest updates for many libraries needed by VTE like libpango, libcairo, libgtk, etc.

The size of those terminals vary from 30kB (evilvte) to 100KB (lilyterm), sadly evilvte don´t use a configuration file so each configuration change needs a recompile, runtime configuration will not be supported soon:( .

I didn´t try the latest sakura version because I don´t know how to compile or customize configuration options using cmake. Then the best option for now seems to be lilyterm, although Rox-term already has the same features in a bigger package.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 18:16    Post subject:  

Hey ttuuxxx, I haven't followed develoment but I just grabbed latest RC version to put on an old laptop I bought, it's a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo D Series laptop with 1 Ghz intel III processor and 345 MB RAM and I must tell you it works very good, well done! Sound works out of the box, graphics work solid on 1024x768 xorg resolution, youtube flash is sluggish but it doesn't crash ff so far. Very nice choice of apps, seems like everythin fits together. Touchpad tap doesn't work though. I did a frugal install on 8 GB ext2 partition and made also a 512 MB swap.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Dec 2009, 18:29    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 02:05    Post subject:  

dejan555 wrote:
Touchpad tap doesn't work though.
I did post an idea on that maybe 15 or so pages back for another user, but they never responded back,grrr If anyone could figure out a "touchpad tap fix", I'll include it, there are lots of examples, but I don't have a laptop hardware to test them. Better if someone else figures it out.
here's a list of pages http://www.google.com/search?q=Touchpad+tap&sitesearch=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 03:12    Post subject:  

I'll see if I can find something that works and report back. Moving cursor works fine though and buttons also work, oh and my PS/2 mouse scroll wheel doesn't work too but middleclick does (clicking on wheel)
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 12:45    Post subject:  

Hey ttuuxxx I just fixed touchpad tap, no extra software was needed, I just changed values in xorg.conf as suggested in this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=117807#117807

Now just to fix scroll wheel Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 12:49    Post subject:  

Ehm, another thing I noticed is that there's no default password specified for root, when I ran passwd and entered new password first time it reported segmentation fault, then second time it said that password is succesfully set.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 15:10    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx,

I´m getting many erros in Xerrs.log when I open Ipinfo from Internet Wizard Connection.

I tried to fix it with BarryK suggestion for close window, but the error remains present. http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01279

What could be wrong?
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 15:22    Post subject:  

BTW, is there a way to save gamma calibration settings?
Display is too bright by default, I adjust gamma from xorgwizard in setup menu but settings are not saved after reboot/X restart

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 18:06    Post subject:  

dejan555 wrote:
BTW, is there a way to save gamma calibration settings?
Display is too bright by default, I adjust gamma from xorgwizard in setup menu but settings are not saved after reboot/X restart


Hi dejan555, Monitor gamma calibration is working for you?. I think those settings could be saved from the gama GUI application and later used by Xorgwizard.

Meanwhile you could add this section to your xorg.conf file:

Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
        Gamma           2.0
EndSection


Use the correct Gamma setting for you. I´m sure xorgwizard will reset this value after a reboot.

Also you can put this code in /root/.jwmrc :

Code:
<StartupCommand>xgamma -quiet -gamma 2.0</StartupCommand>


But I´m not sure if .jwmrc file is recreated at boot, if so then you should add the same code to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc

Please test and feedback.

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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 18:30    Post subject:  

Oh goodie, it can be done /w xgamma command, I can put script in ~/Startup, haven't tried xorg.conf but will next time. it's more like 0.6 here Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Dec 2009, 23:39    Post subject:  

well Finally I had enough of that polyview 19" LCD and the power button/built in screensaver issue, So basically for the past 2 days i've been trying to find a new 19" LCD 4:3 square monitor, I don't like widescreen for computers, My home tv is a large widescreen LCD, but for my pc's just a square one is good enough.
Anyways I found one for like $220 for a 19LCD 4:3 which is getting very rare to find this format, compared with a 19"LCD widescreen $120 delivered. So I figure I'll have a look at the local markets, and sure enough on a top shelf was a new dusty box with a 19" viewsonic. The lady didn't know how much, so she called her husband and said $119, I said sure got any others? she said no we are no longer dealing with computers, moving strictly to car audio. Anyway I'm really happy with the new monitor. Also never buy polyview monitors they are terrible quality and workmanship, Just like how I only buy Seagate hard drives, WD is crap and there warranty is crap.
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