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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
23%
 23%  [ 8 ]
2.14x
11%
 11%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
29%
 29%  [ 10 ]
Other: 2.14x only
35%
 35%  [ 12 ]
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 08:11    Post subject:  

hi clarf I found one that's really good, Just one thing its toooo big, lol
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 10:45    Post subject:  

Hi clarf I found another Filemanager that is half the size of the last one and will make a lot of people happy, lol It was a lot larger but I did my regular stuff to it, Now I have to figure out how theme it up. hmmmm But I'm not spilling the beans on which one it is.
lol I bet the suspense is driving you crazy, lol
ttuuxxx

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clarf


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 11:20    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi clarf I found another Filemanager that is half the size of the last one and will make a lot of people happy, lol It was a lot larger but I did my regular stuff to it, Now I have to figure out how theme it up. hmmmm But I'm not spilling the beans on which one it is.
lol I bet the suspense is driving you crazy, lol
ttuuxxx


Hi ttuuxxx, What´s the FileManager name???

I liked the last one (xplorer) it looks good, works fine without errors, all functions works, many view options, right click menu, handle file/directory permissions, etc. Also liked the ability to open and navigate inside .gz and .tar files something that I miss in Rox.

Although I can´t select multiple files with the mouse (open a select region) and it´s big.

Waiting for the next FileManager to try.

clarf
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan 2010, 19:25    Post subject:  

Quote:
Hugh :

Could you please post output when you try to manually load the PCI driver.

What a modprobe -r "driver" and the modprobe "driver" shows?. Could you please post your /tmp/bootkernel.log file.

Greetings,
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Got hammered by flu - still got a blade of grass in my grip to keep from fallin' off the face of the earth... Should be able to get some result for you in a day or two more if things get better...
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan 2010, 16:46    Post subject:  

^Hope you're better soon, flu sucks.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but I think this needs saying.

I've been impressed by Puppy Retro in nearly every way but I have had lockups when browsing in every version I've tried up to v X11, especially but not exclusively in Firefox. When this happens it often takes two or three reboots to make Gkdial useable again.

Has anyone any idea why this might be happening (and also often does in Puppies based on earlier versions, i.e. prior to 4.12), and yet doesn't in the version I use as my main Puppy (4.20 Deeper Thought)?

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 00:59    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
^Hope you're better soon, flu sucks.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but I think this needs saying.

I've been impressed by Puppy Retro in nearly every way but I have had lockups when browsing in every version I've tried up to v X11, especially but not exclusively in Firefox. When this happens it often takes two or three reboots to make Gkdial useable again.

Has anyone any idea why this might be happening (and also often does in Puppies based on earlier versions, i.e. prior to 4.12), and yet doesn't in the version I use as my main Puppy (4.20 Deeper Thought)?


Hi could you try this pupdial I took from 4.3.1, and see if that works.
gtkdial I did some homework on and it says its buggy, plus I can't find the original sources to recompile it, the newer one is full of gnome deps.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 01:57    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
^Hope you're better soon, flu sucks.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but I think this needs saying.

I've been impressed by Puppy Retro in nearly every way but I have had lockups when browsing in every version I've tried up to v X11, especially but not exclusively in Firefox. When this happens it often takes two or three reboots to make Gkdial useable again.

Has anyone any idea why this might be happening (and also often does in Puppies based on earlier versions, i.e. prior to 4.12), and yet doesn't in the version I use as my main Puppy (4.20 Deeper Thought)?


also there's wv, i compiled the latest version and added Barry's scripts. but Updating this would be a last resort due to the size of the library. Hmmm maybe just try it and see if the one in 2.14X works and then try this one if doesn't. also after both, uninstall the newer version and delete /etc/wvdial.conf and start over.
I really would like to remove wvdial if this is the actual size installed on 2.14X, so please try the pupdial first Smile

I don't have dialup so I can test these apps.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 03:09    Post subject:  

I dug my old amd K6-2 (501 mhz w/384 mb ram) off the shelf to try 2.14X rc2.At the moment it has a dual-boot of XP and Puppy 3.01 and 2.14 is a marked improvement, even running live.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 05:05    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
^Hope you're better soon, flu sucks.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works here, but I think this needs saying.

I've been impressed by Puppy Retro in nearly every way but I have had lockups when browsing in every version I've tried up to v X11, especially but not exclusively in Firefox. When this happens it often takes two or three reboots to make Gkdial useable again.

Has anyone any idea why this might be happening (and also often does in Puppies based on earlier versions, i.e. prior to 4.12), and yet doesn't in the version I use as my main Puppy (4.20 Deeper Thought)?


also there's wv, i compiled the latest version and added Barry's scripts. but Updating this would be a last resort due to the size of the library. Hmmm maybe just try it and see if the one in 2.14X works and then try this one if doesn't. also after both, uninstall the newer version and delete /etc/wvdial.conf and start over.
I really would like to remove wvdial if this is the actual size installed on 2.14X, so please try the pupdial first Smile

I don't have dialup so I can test these apps.
ttuuxxx


Thanks, I will.

I must stress that it isn't just in Puppy that I have this problem; the dialer in my other distro (Vector Linux 6) locks up as well. In fact, fewer and fewer distros still actively support dialup at all.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 05:23    Post subject:  

well I hope one of the packages will work, you can also probably use them on other Linux Distros, just rename the .pet to .tar.gz and extract them and place the folders in the responding directories.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 12:12    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx;

I´m surprised no one asked you to add Hiawatha. In this moment 214X does not have any web Server. I compiled it in less than 100KB...

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 12:26    Post subject:  

Hi guys I've spent about 2 days on trying to get Thunar configured, I need help or I'll toss it, Rox would still be default but then others could have Thunar,
The package is like 1MB but , its not actually that large.
the reason is this -
It comes with a full set of xfce gtk2 themes and theme engine which will replace the gtk2 themes in 2.14X, which takes up 892kb expanded plus There are extra for one off configuring.
So the actual size is around 600kb pet. I didn't add thunarVol because well that takes HAL5+ to actually work and its a bit of a stretch to install the latest HAL version on almost any puppy from about 4 series down.

Ok this is what I need desperate help with, When I associate a file say blinky.pet with /usr/sbin/petget it then lets me install pets like usual, but where does it save the changed settings to, I've spent 2 day reading hundreds of user responses looking in /etc/xdg /root /usr/ share usr/lib etc and for the life of me I can't find it. I can't install a filemanager that everyone has to set every time they bootup live, lol
Also how do I set icons to the applications ??? I couldn't figure that out either. well I'll start on 2.14X again tomorrow and by the time I'm finished building it if no fixes are found I'll toss it, have to keep moving forward Smile


this will update your mimes, open a terminal and type
/usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/

look int the usr/bin folder there a few bins that work via the terminal.
have fun
ttuuxxx

Note newer version next page Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 12:33    Post subject:  

Oh ya after install Thunar pet above, please set your GTK2 theme to one of the XFCE themes, The reason why is that it supplies some icons to thunar itself, that is why I'll be dumping the default gtk2 themes if we go with thunar as the backup Filemanager.
I also made the fonts larger to puppy standards to match the current fonts in the other gtk2 themes in 2.14X
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 19:04    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:

Also how do I set icons to the applications ???
ttuuxxx


Hi ttuuxxx, I could set mime icons, the trick is add a .png file or link to a external .png file (just to save space) in /user/share/pixmaps/

Of course there´s a standard name specification, you can look that standard here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.htm

I did some basic test for text files using /user/share/pixmaps/text-x-generic.png file, so I attach the results Wink Note: the magnifying glass icons..

Greetings,
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan 2010, 20:44    Post subject:  

hi clarf I managed to get it that far yesterday, actually I do have about 3/4 of the rox mimes working in its original location, but I need to know where it saves the changes, when I set .pet to execute earlier is an example, If I delete user/share/mimes and replace it with a default 2.14X. pets still execute, if delete, /root/.cache/Thunar, /etc/xdg/xfce4, they still execute, I need to know where the settings are being stored, The icons I can live with, but the file mime associations I need to transfer over to the iso. The closest I got was deleting /root/.config/Thunar, that controlled the single click vs double click on the apps. But the .pet's still worked.
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