Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[James C]

Yup, thanks Ttuuxxx! I figured it out on my own

James C - Good to know that it's certainly just my case...I know IBM mobos and software back from the time this box was manufactured used some pretty unique-to-IBM structures and the like (I'm thinking the Mwave stuff here as an example). Hopefully I can get it to work!

I added the "ide=nodma" and "acpi-off" (without the quotes of course) and the Floppy icon is still not showing up on my desktop, nor is it mounting by double clicking on it in /mnt, nor is it showing up in Pmount, or Mut2. Oddly enough, in the Mountpoint settings, it is set to show the icon all the time, even when there is no floppy inserted or mounted...would Puppy just not be showing it because it isn't detecting the drive in the first place? (Btw, I checked the Sysinfo program, it doesn't list the floppy there at all! But, like I said, I know the drive physically works and I use it all the time on the system for booting from CD when testing potential Puppy LiveCDs!)

In other news, all is now well on the CD-ROM front, aside from that persistent CDROM-icon-keeps-copying-itself-on-X-start issue! Props to you on that one! It is detected and mounts fine from double-clicking on the icon on the desktop, or the one in the /mnt folder, as well as through Mut2 or PMount.

For now, however, I am off to bed, thanks for your help and I shall see if I can look at it any more in the morning, if not, I will be posting here again for any more suggestions Cheers and g'night until then!

EDIT - I should also mention that the one USB 1.0 port has always worked flawlessly in terms of storage...mind you I've only tested it with Flash drives (particularly a cheapy 512mb affair I had been given for free awhile back, never any devices like a webcam or all that jazz.)

I have a full install of 214x on my old P3 test box with no floppy drive.Just booted into 214x and no floppy icon and nothing in Pmount , as expected.All of the mountpoint settings, etc. are at default....haven't needed to touch them. HTH.

[darkstrike]

Thanks James C.....so, I guess we can safely say that Puppy isn't detecting my floppy drive if yours doesn't have one, period, and it's doing the same thing mine is - now that I think of it, this might've happened before a long time ago, although I don't remember how I fixed it (or if I did for that matter).

There would never be a way to manually add it to a configuration somewhere...sortof force it to "detect" one, if that makes any sense? Sorry for my high level of n00bosity here, haha!

Also - new symptom, since I added acpi=off and ide=nodma, I have have a problem that every so many starts of X, the Menu at the bottom left on the tray will open and be blank without me clicking or typing anything, seems to happen the second I move the mouse for the first time (see attached screenshot). It will be covering up part of my screen...and for a few seconds at first, it will be a working menu where if I were to move the mouse over there, lists would show up from the options in the menu, even though I can't see them...then, after a few seconds, it basically stops working and becomes a big black rectangle blocking my view. I can't get rid of it no matter how hard I try, and I also can't click "through it" to the icons or windows behind. Once it stops working, the tray seems to work as normal again, because I can go down and click on the Menu and it will function properly, but the black rectangle will still be there...Bizarre!

I tried removing "acpi=off" and it hasn't done anything to solve the floppy problem or the Menu glitch. I could try removing ide=nodma, but I know that would just bring back the CD-Rom problem, and that is working flawlessly now. Any thoughts?

I HAD commented out Blinky, FreememApp and wmpower from starting in the jwmrc-tray file to save some memory as they're not necessary, but I can't see how that would cause the Menu problem? Sorry for my long posts !

[sinc]

Also - new symptom, since I added acpi=off and ide=nodma, I have have a problem that every so many starts of X, the Menu at the bottom left on the tray will open and be blank without me clicking or typing anything, seems to happen the second I move the mouse for the first time

i have always had this issue using xvesa with 214x also and have never reported it. but it happens to me also. i just simply restart X and then don't touch the mouse until everything is fully booted.

[darkstrike]

Well, good to know I am not the only one Sinc!

I have still not managed to solve my Floppy Drive problem...and I have personally run out of ideas, which is unfortunate. I am glad, at least, that I have the CD-Rom working now. If I make any more headway, I will mention it here.

I've thought about giving TurboPup a test as well, considering the limited hardware of this machine, just to see which runs better.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi guys I was working on a abiword.desktop file and the command I used made rox open a slim panel on the left side of the desktop, It contained 2 folders, I clicked the folders and it opened, I then right clicked on it and it asked where I wanted the panel place, so I selected the top and the I dragged all the desktop icons into it, Including hotpup drives, so I tested the drives, If I unmounted a drive at the bottom of the screen it would unmount up top on the slim panel.as well
below is the actual .desktop if others might want to try this hidden flaw/feature
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[ttuuxxx]

actually if you just a open a terminal and type /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer -launch it will open the panel up
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[James C]

Very cool discovery.........................

[ttuuxxx]

New version with a new window manager and taskbar Using Metacity and xfce taskbar/panel
Page 1 !!
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[darkstrike]

Awesome Ttuuxxx, looks great! I've never tried Metacity before...curious if this update will use any more system resources than JWM?

[sinc]

unbelievable!!!! I'm on it...

[ttuuxxx]

It does take a bit more resources, but nothing really that much, I always try to keep it lite, That's why the 3 apps combined together, Rox for the desktop, Xfce for the taskbar and metacity for the window decorations. Oh ya I made a new Shutdown/logout screen for it also

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[darkstrike]

Sounds like I will have to give it a whirl on the old Aptiva

Maybe it'll fix that menu glitch that Sinc and I mentioned we periodically had!

[ttuuxxx]

Sounds like I will have to give it a whirl on the old Aptiva

Maybe it'll fix that menu glitch that Sinc and I mentioned we periodically had!

Well its a totally different menu, Which is nice because when refresh the menus now after installing or removing a program, it only refreshes the taskbar, where as before it would refresh the whole window manager JWM. That way you can safely refresh the menus and do other thing like compiling or cd burning and not have to worry about the what if factor.
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[ttuuxxx]

any users results? Also I'll try to get some sort blinky/memory apps working tomorrow after work.
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[darkstrike]

I installed it no problems, love the new WM, but it seems the keyboard port on my old Aptiva might have died...and considering it only has one USB 1.0 port and I have no USB keyboards...

[ttuuxxx]

I installed it no problems, love the new WM, but it seems the keyboard port on my old Aptiva might have died...and considering it only has one USB 1.0 port and I have no USB keyboards...

You should get a usb 4 way splitter, They usually have them in dollar shops, and usb keyboards are usually $10 or less, maybe get one of each ?
ttuuxxx

[jduffy22335]

any users results? Also I'll try to get some sort blinky/memory apps working tomorrow after work.
ttuuxxx

Well I loaded manual frugal, it had a"poor" result with XORG and 1289 x 1024, where the frequency was null (ATI HD3650), BUT, it actually did show the desktop correctly !

Miss the Blinky but see it is on the To Do list.

Also have had "senior moments" with the grub menu for this, if I add pfix=fsck, it occurs after log out, before shutdown. Also noticed that the default save file goes in "home" even though it loaded main SFS from a sub directory, and shows other save files in a sub directory to choose to load at start up. Didn't this get resolved in earlier versions? I want to think it did.

Looks and works quite well on my Intel Q6600 with 4 gigs, will step down through the processors that I am using since I have some of the newer and older stuff on hand. (Intel) Pentium D 805 2.6GHz, P4 2.2 GHz, Celeron 2.0 GHz, Celeron 400 Mhz and a P2 that I can not remember well, In the AMD world I have Athlon II X2 2.4GHz, Athlon 2200, Duron 1100, Duron 850 Mhz,

[jduffy22335]

any users results?
ttuuxxx

Just realized that the module that is loaded foe the Belkin USB wirelees is the ZD1211b vice the "normal" ZD1211rw. BUT it stll seems to have a "normal" network connection.

[James C]

Fresh full install of 214x-top3 on the old P3 test box.I'm really beginning to like Metacity.

Upgraded Firefox to 3.6.8 (SimpleMail is disabled by the upgrade though) and Flash to 10.1r82.................appears to work fine.Haven't found anything that doesn't work yet so....................

Nice new shutdown screen too.

[darkstrike]

I installed it no problems, love the new WM, but it seems the keyboard port on my old Aptiva might have died...and considering it only has one USB 1.0 port and I have no USB keyboards...

You should get a usb 4 way splitter, They usually have them in dollar shops, and usb keyboards are usually $10 or less, maybe get one of each ?
ttuuxxx

I know they're not too expensive, so I may give it a whirl if I can. My problem is I am in the midst of paying for some very expensive unforeseen car repairs ($2100 Canadian) and considering I am a student with an upcoming education practicum for 16 weeks where I will essentially be working a full time job and not be getting paid for it, money is pretty tight

To make things worse, I noticed that by some strange coincidence, the newer backup computer I have (1.6ghz, 512mbs RAM, 64mb Vid card, etc) also just had it's PS/2 mouse port die. I do have a USB mouse, but it's for my netbook, so I would have to get another one of those too.

At least my year-old main desktop and netbook are still working 100%!