Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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#4636 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 14 Oct 2011, 07:22

Here's the latest netsurf browser, took a bit of compiling time and altering the usr/include/gtk2 files about 20 of them.
enjoy
ttuuxxx

James C · #4637 Post by **James C** » Sat 15 Oct 2011, 05:20

Working fine on Top 9.

JonT · #4638 Post by **JonT** » Sun 16 Oct 2011, 16:27

All of a sudden, I could no longer connect via WPA wireless with any of the 214X's I tried. Other puppies had no problem. Far from being an expert, it took me a bunch of time trying to figure things out. The network wizard was unable to make the WPA connection. I tried tempestuous's excellent HOWTO on making manual wifi connections (including adding cryptograhic modules, with no success) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469 and further verified that wpa_supplicant was the point of failure.

To make a long story short, it seems I had changed the router to use AES encryption instead of TKIP. I changed it to TKIP and all is well now.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to improve 214X; some people have not be able to use 214X wirelessly, possibly for the same reason as I had. Is it possible to compile wpa_supplicant such that it supports both AES and TKIP, or change configuration files? Other puppies seem to be happy with either AES or TKIP. Sorry I don't know enough to take this further.

HTH,
Jon

clarf · #4639 Post by **clarf** » Sun 16 Oct 2011, 22:20

JonT wrote: To make a long story short, it seems I had changed the router to use AES encryption instead of TKIP. I changed it to TKIP and all is well now.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to improve 214X; some people have not be able to use 214X wirelessly, possibly for the same reason as I had. Is it possible to compile wpa_supplicant such that it supports both AES and TKIP, or change configuration files? Other puppies seem to be happy with either AES or TKIP. Sorry I don't know enough to take this further.

HTH,
Jon

Hi John,

That´s a nice feature request,

I think we need some guide from Thempestous to be able to add it.

Regards

JonT · #4640 Post by **JonT** » Mon 17 Oct 2011, 00:07

Thanks clarf for the support for the idea; I think I have found the beginnings of a answer.

Nothing more scary than ignorance in action. I was preparing to take a stab at recompiling wpa_supplicant (scary), but it turns out that's not necessary.

Searching for information on wpa_supplicant.conf (one reference here) indicates the lines in that file starting with "pairwise" and "group" typically default to

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pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP WEP104  WEP40

The default has only TKIP. I won't be using WEP so I left off the last two, and can now connect to my router in either AES or TKIP.

Someone more knowledgeable than I (not hard) should specify a conf file to fit most people.

Linux can be so logical; TKIP for TKIP and CCMP for AES. Love it.

tempestuous · #4641 Post by **tempestuous** » Mon 17 Oct 2011, 09:36

JonT wrote:
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pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP WEP104  WEP40
The default has only TKIP. I won't be using WEP so I left off the last two, and can now connect to my router in either AES or TKIP.

Yes, that's 100% correct ... but the Network Wizard in 214X already accommodates both forms of WPA encryption.
I suspect that in the course of your investigation and diagnosis, and then the discovery that your encryption mode had changed at the router, that you may have become confused.
The "default" wpa_supplicant configuration file you refer to in 214X is /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
and yes, it's been set up for WPA (TKIP) encryption ... only.
But there's a second configuration file - /etc/wpa_supplicant2.conf
which has been set up for WPA2 (AES / CCMP) encryption. This configuration file is referenced by the Network Wizard when you select the "WPA2" button. Refer netwiz-gui.jpg

But while investigating this I discovered that the "AP Scan" labels in the Network Wizard gui are unhelpful. So I have modifed the gui, and posted the improved version in the "Extra drivers for Puppy 2 with 2.6.18.1 kernel" thread -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 858#573858

#4642 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 17 Oct 2011, 10:31

here's a number lock app, just install it and restart X, I tossed it into the startup folder so it will autostart on restarts.
ttuuxxx

snayak · #4643 Post by **snayak** » Thu 20 Oct 2011, 11:36

Dear All,

Does virtualbox sfs/pet available for 214X Top9?
which is build on kernel 2.6.18.1.

So that I can run a windows xp guest on puppy 214X host.

Sincerely,
Srinivas Nayak

snayak · #4644 Post by **snayak** » Fri 21 Oct 2011, 05:07

Dear All,

I did frugal installation of 214X Top 9 on my machine.
Everything went fine.
Xorg wizard suggested 1024x768x16 resulution for my monitor.
I selected the same.
When I reached desktop, only task bar was displayed. Desktop background image was not displayed and icons were not displayed.
Is there a bug in 214X Top9?

I checked all of the screen resulutions Xorg suggested, but all were having same problem.

Choosing Xvesa, only flickered my screen.
Did anybody have such experience?

Can anybody please help me on this.
My motherboard is having Intel 810 chipset for PIII processor.

Sincerely,
Srinivas Nayak

James C · #4645 Post by **James C** » Fri 21 Oct 2011, 05:18

For what it's worth, I run Top 9 (actually all of the 214X's since the beginning) mainly on a 733 MHz P3 with the Intel 810 graphics and I've never had a problem with the graphics.Possibly something may be corrupted in your savefile.

Colonel Panic · #4646 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Sun 23 Oct 2011, 09:12

James C wrote:For what it's worth, I run Top 9 (actually all of the 214X's since the beginning) mainly on a 733 MHz P3 with the Intel 810 graphics and I've never had a problem with the graphics.Possibly something may be corrupted in your savefile.

I have to second this. I also have the Intel i810 onboard graphics on my machine and I'm running Top8 now with no problems.

tomo3 · #4647 Post by **tomo3** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 06:38

snayak write:
When I reached desktop, only task bar was displayed. Desktop background image was not displayed and icons were not displayed.
Is there a bug in 214X Top9?-----------------------------------------
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In my case when I installed. From the start and the following screen as the taskbar however. / Root / .config / rox.sourceforge.net / ROX so-linking to the / root / Startup the Filer / pb_Default. I fell through it several times but was good. In so far Pb_Default cured.

dropped pb_Default to /root/Startup and restart Xserver

https://sites.google.com/site/tomo37798 ... ects=0&d=1

Colonel Panic · #4648 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 14:56

ttuuxxx wrote:Here's the latest netsurf browser, took a bit of compiling time and altering the usr/include/gtk2 files about 20 of them.
enjoy
ttuuxxx

Thanks for this one. I tried it, but unfortunately found it doesn't format pages with pictures very well and there's a lot of text overlap making some words unreadable.

I'm posting from an old version of Links-graphic, 2.1 pre18, instead (from when Links still had javascript).

Best,

CP .

Colonel Panic · #4649 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Mon 24 Oct 2011, 16:18

Could someone please tell me if there's a way of adding new sets of desktop icons to Top8? I had a quick look at the forum search but there were nearly 1,000 posts to trawl through and I'm afraid I gave up at page 6.

Thanks in advance,

CP .

P.S. I'm very impressed with Top 8 (and I'm sure Top 9 is at least as good). I may have to rethink my view that the 4.20 / 4.21 based Puppies are the best ones.

James C · #4650 Post by **James C** » Tue 25 Oct 2011, 08:06

I've installed several sets of different icons in Top 9 by simply installing pets.As a test,I just installed this icon pet
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/9/21/ ... onized.pet
from this post.No problems.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 592#532592

Entire thread of pets of icon sets
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 530#212530
HTH.

Colonel Panic · #4651 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:30

Thanks, I'll have a look at these.

Cheers,

CP .

clarf · #4652 Post by **clarf** » Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:53

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
mama21mama wrote:user to: 214x-Top9

something about hiawhata webserver.

always loads at startup, do not know why.

BootManager this off: s
In 214XRC5 I just made /etc/init.d/hiawatha.run non-executable (right-click - properties - un-tick the three exec-boxes).
I see that in 214X-top9 (not running it at the moment, so cannot verify) there are more files involved
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# ls -go /etc/init.d/*atha*
lrwxrwxrwx 1   27 2011-10-10 23:03 hiawatha.run -> ../rc.d/init.d/hiawatha.run
-rwxrwxrwx 1 1713 2010-08-22 16:45 rc.hiawatha
#
I'd suggest to first try if making /etc/rc.d/init.d/hiawatha.run non-executable is enough. If not, I'd continue with making /etc/init.d/rc.hiawatha non-executable. And if hiawatha would still be auto-started, I'd simply delete all three files (provided I'd have no intention of running hiawatha later on).

Hope that helps /MHHP

Hi,

MHHP solution works, although this is a bug that need some changes on 214X to solve this problem. >It works like this:

1. BootManager changes executable properties on "/etc/rc.d/init.d/*" files to enbale or disable any service.
2. "/etc/rc.d/rc.ervices" script executes all files on "/etc/init.d" directory (I think this was designed on this way to make Puppy works like other Linux distros).
3. To make both previous points work and avoid duplicated information, any file in /etc/init.d should be a symlink to an executable service file on /etc/rc.d/init.d/.

In the hiawatha case there are two executable files on /etc/init.d and just one is a symlink that can be controled by BootManager.

The definitve solution for the hiawatha service should be, delete redundant and bigger hiawatha.run file on /etc/init.d/, move the /etc/init.d/rc.hiawatha executable file to /etc/rc.d/init.d/, then make a symlink in /etc/init.d/ pointing to the moved executable file (´ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/rc.hiawatha rc.hiawatha´).

There is also needed a small change on Bootmanager, (just to keep the description on the hiawatha service list), line 284:
add an * character before hiwatha, it should be:

*hiawatha*)

Or to avoid this change on Bootmanager, first rename the rc.hiawatha file to hiawatha (or hiawatha.run whatever you like but remember to delete the redunat file first) then move this file and finally create the symlink pointing to it.

That´s all.

Regards,

Colonel Panic · #4653 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:50

Update; I've now installed a few icon sets and decided the tok-tok sets are my favourites so far (narrowly, over Buttonized). Here's my desktop, with the tok-tok dark icon set;

Aitch · #4654 Post by **Aitch** » Thu 27 Oct 2011, 15:56

ttuuxxx

Just a quick note, as I've just come across trio's sfs converter, which I thought people here might find useful
- convert sfs3>4 and sfs4>3

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?&t=45614

thanks go to SHS for his Opera 12.00 Build 1085 for Puppy 214x-top9, which led me to the link

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64599

Aitch

Colonel Panic · #4655 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Thu 27 Oct 2011, 16:12

Thanks for this link. I like Opera and am looking forward to trying this (I'm posting from Vector at the moment).

Cheers,

CP .

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