Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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2.14x
11
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2.14x
4
11%
2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
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MinHundHettePerro
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#4771 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Still in there, haven't tried it, though ... :)/ MHHP

EDIT: underdog, that is ...
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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James C
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#4772 Post by James C »

Still working fine on my older hardware.... :)

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#4773 Post by James C »

Fresh full install of Top 10 on the old reliable P3 test box. Everything working and looking good so far.
Went ahead and installed SeaMonkey 2.7.2 ...... cause I like SeaMonkey. :)

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 255MB (130MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 26 Feb 2012 08:04:37 PM PUP
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : (null)
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

sh-3.00# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 255060 241252 13808 0 11052
Swap: 1020088 0 1020088
Total: 1275148 241252 1033896
sh-3.00#

Looking good as expected.

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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4774 Post by sheldonisaac »

At approx
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 643#609643

Tman said
Maybe ttuuxxx has done some hacking to his initrd file in 2.14X or perhaps he has some optimized code in his bootconfigurations.
If you want to find out, I suggest asking him. I guess I cannot help you with the long delay. Please let the rest of us know if you find out, or better yet, let Barry know so that he can upload a fix to woof (if applicable).
(This was apropos of my trying SolidPup on my 1998 ASUS P5A computer)

I'm now back to 214X via MBR.

But the question of why (later?) kernels have the booting delay remains.

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#4775 Post by snayak »

I tried 214X Top 10 as well.
I did a frugal install of it.
The problem I face is, it never stays with other puppies.
Always 214X finds pup save file of other puppies and forcibly uses them.

How to tame 214X puppy?

Any suggestions how to use it nicely?

Sincerely,
Srinivas Nayak
[Precise 571 on AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with 512MB RAM]
[Fatdog 720 on Intel Pentium B960 with 4GB RAM]

[url]http://srinivas-nayak.blogspot.com/[/url]

Dewbie

#4776 Post by Dewbie »

snayak wrote:
Always 214X finds pup save file of other puppies and forcibly uses them.
How to tame 214X puppy?
Any suggestions how to use it nicely?

See my post here.

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#4777 Post by Colonel Panic »

Dewbie wrote:snayak wrote:
Always 214X finds pup save file of other puppies and forcibly uses them.
How to tame 214X puppy?
Any suggestions how to use it nicely?

See my post here.
Thanks, I've seen this. Trouble is, you have to do this every time you boot up unto 2.14X after using one of these other Pup savefiles, and then reverse it again to use another Pup's savefile, and it all quickly gets tedious IMO. There has to be a better solution than this.

Just my 2c here.

CP .
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#4778 Post by Aitch »

AFAIK 214X is the only puppy to exhibit this behaviour

Others discriminate between slacko/lupu etc, even discriminating between variants and derivatives of lupu, AFAIK

ttuuxxx
Can we make a general request for you to modify the script which searches for savefiles in 214X to NOT grab any other savefile which is not intended for 214X?
I don't recall this having happened with 214R when I added 4.12 or slaxer_pup?

thanks

Aitch :)

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#4779 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

The grabbing of a save-file occurs if one, and only one, save-file is found. Otherwise a choice of found save-files is offered.

Just skimming through initrd_sbin/init, I'd say that the absolutely simplest way to avoid the automatic, possibly disastrous, grabbing of a save-file is to always offer a choice, lines 615ff of initrd_sbin/init:
# gives user option of choosing pupsave. if only one exists selects it
choose_pupsave_func(){
## set PUPSAVE
#set -- $ALLPUPSAVES # just pass it to function...
#if [ $# -eq 1 ];then # only one pup_save -- use it
# PUPSAVE="$1"
#elif [ $# -gt 1 ];then # more than one -- ask which to use
echo -e "\\033[1;36mPLEASE CHOOSE WHICH SAVE FILE TO USE" >/dev/console
echo "0 none" >/dev/console
CNT3FS=1
for ASAVE in $@
do
APART=${ASAVE%,*} ; APART=${APART#*,}
case "$ASAVE" in
*.[23]fs) # pup_save file
AFILE=${ASAVE##*,}
echo -e "$CNT3FS Partition: $APART\tFile: $AFILE" >/dev/console
;;
*_install_3) # installed to part
AVER=${ASAVE%%_*} ; AVER=${AVER#*Puppy}
echo -e "$CNT3FS Partition: $APART\tPuppy $AVER install" >/dev/console
;;
*) # will be files saved to partition: PUPMODE 6/7
echo -e "$CNT3FS Partition: $APART\tSettings saved directly to partition" >/dev/console
;;
esac
let CNT3FS=CNT3FS+1
done
echo -en "Please type a number then press ENTER key: \\033[0;39m" >/dev/console
read NUM3FS
clear #v2.12
if [ $NUM3FS -gt 0 ];then
eval PUPSAVE=\$$NUM3FS
fi
#fi #if [ $# -eq 1 ]
## end set PUPSAVE
hth :)/ MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#4780 Post by Keef »

snayak,

I think what you need to do is boot with 'pfix=ram' , to ignore any save files. Once you reboot with a new savefile, 214X will list any available savefiles on your drive, as MHHP said.
Once you've got a working savefile, there are methods to enable grub/grub4dos to automatically load thesavefile in 214X's own subdirectory.

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#4781 Post by fyujj »

Hi, does this pup see ext4?
Because I extracted the files (initrd.gz pup_214X.sfs vmlinuz zdrv_214X.sfs) to the HD but it keeps saying 'Cannot find media on 'idehd'' (or 'atahd').
If I remove 'PMEDIA=idehd' it says it can't find files on 'idecd'.

First I tried with

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title Puppy 214X (sda2/214Xfrugal) RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /214Xfrugal/initrd.gz
  kernel /214Xfrugal/vmlinuz   psubdir=214Xfrugal PMEDIA=IDEHD pfix=ram,fsck
  initrd /214Xfrugal/initrd.gz
with a IDEHD dummy file like Wary uses for ATAHD (tried ATAHD too).
Then after looking at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 748#594638 I tried

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title Puppy 214X (sda2/214Xfrugal) RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /214Xfrugal/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd SFSFILE=ext3,hda2,/214Xfrugal/pup_214X.sfs pfix=ram
  initrd /214Xfrugal/initrd.gz
(the files are in 214Xfrugal subfolder in sda2)
Both gave the same error of not finding the media (idehd or atahd).
Mabe I need to add a pointer to zdrv_214X.sfs?

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#4782 Post by Keef »

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SFSFILE=ext3
Shouldn't this be:

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SFSFILE=ext4
Just a thought.

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#4783 Post by fyujj »

Thanks, but it didn't help.
I added 'PDEV1=hda2' too but to no avail.
I guess I'll burn a CD to see if it can 'see' the ext4 partiton.

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#4784 Post by James C »

fyujj wrote:Thanks, but it didn't help.
I added 'PDEV1=hda2' too but to no avail.
I guess I'll burn a CD to see if it can 'see' the ext4 partiton.
AFAIK, because of the older kernel 2.14X doesn't "see" ext4 partitions. It won't mount any of my ext4 save files anyway.

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#4785 Post by James C »

Just in case any users are curious about using newer browsers in 214X, I'm running both Firefox 11.0 and SeaMonkey 2.8 with no problems.

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#4786 Post by Eathray »

Hey ttuuxxx and friends,

Can anyone direct me to or provide directions to get Google Talk working in Xchat?

Usually we just go with Pidgin, but I can't find one for 214x. I tried one for 4 series, but wasn't stable.

For the wife, she likes Google Talk, but in a stand alone, not online.

Thanks,

Eathray

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#4787 Post by dealora »

Is it possible to connect Realtek 8187 wireless (Wifi) in puppy 2. 14 x how?

Thankyou

Juan (Spain)

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#4788 Post by starhawk »

Can't seem to get -top9 to load from a USB optical drive... drops out to initial-RAMdisk console when it can't find itself with both hands ;) seems to assume that all CD drives are IDE... bother :?

I hope -top10 fixes this... I'm downloading it now, for a VIA C3 based system that has all the computational horsepower of an early '90's pager :lol:

EDIT: ...that would be a no. In fact, it looks like *all* the stuff I type at the boot: prompt is being ignored... I've had this happen with multiple Puppies so I suspect it's a quirk of the hardware I'm using.

EDIT2: Well, I did *something* right this time, and it worked. No idea what. IIRC boot prompt was "puppy pmedia=usbcd pfix=ram,noramsfs". All I know for sure, is that I got it to boot. Finally!

...now, as usual, I need to find a WiFi driver for my card... but I think I can do that myself ;)

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#4789 Post by starhawk »

...eh, too much trouble from this... I think I'll stick to Puplite5 for my legacy installs... it's faster anyways.

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#4790 Post by jobo »

hi, ive just done a frugal install of 214 by 9 and 10 and it wont recognise mt eithernet conection say no modem/interface detected, , other versions of puppy conect up with no bother

i dont know what modem is built in, but its a very old ibm think pad a21m running windows 98
can any one help me with this

thanks

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