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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
23%
 23%  [ 8 ]
2.14x
11%
 11%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
29%
 29%  [ 10 ]
Other: 2.14x only
35%
 35%  [ 12 ]
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 02:06    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Thanks for the quick package manager fix.

You don't waste any time, do you?


Well Its kind of important,lol but its a shame that sometimes when you finally fix something thats been nagging you that another thing like the package manager gets broken, well it was easy enough to fix, all I had to do was run the broken package manager via the command line and look at the output in terminal and also in the log, Straight away it told me that the package manager locales were missing, so I just copied them over from 4 series, since the package manager is a hacked 4 series version, or was it 5, hmmm it works anyways, lol
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 03:10    Post subject:  

On page 1 of this thread I'll try to keep a better track of whats been fixed in 2.14X, Hope that helps with documentation Smile A bit late but better late than never, also when Its finished someone could always compare 2.14.1R with 2.14X diff and have a total list of updates, I bet that list would be very large, something around 60%+ I would say.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 03:26    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
Well, I`m running x5 ATM...Short review...
All in all, excellent...
Tested on 2 machines so far..
It flies on the old P3...Wireless works fine for both broadcom and raylink...


Firefox works perfectly...first 3.x series to do so...No lockups, no crashes, loves the addons and themes, flash works perfect...
Gimp installed and works fine..

However...jwmconfig is still mislocated...
And "init" is still the parent of all processes...
(Still cant frugal install it...will try full eventually)
Did I miss the answer for that one somewhere??

On the P4 laptop:
It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose, so I`m in vesa ATM, but my I810 worked fine for xorg on the "dinosaur" P3...
Will test on more machines and get back... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 03:52    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy Hello,
Well, I`m running x5 ATM...Short review...
All in all, excellent...

However...jwmconfig is still mislocated...
And "init" is still the parent of all processes...
(Still cant frugal install it...will try full eventually)
Did I miss the answer for that one somewhere??
Very Happy


have you tried the jwmconfig from the menu? It works, I tried the menu height, set gtk2 theme, even the locale I changed from en_us to en_au, now that was cool Smile So what part of jwmconfig isn't working and I'll try to fix it.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 04:05    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy Hello,


It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose, ... Very Happy

Well we can't be having that can we, lol If you have say 4 series laying around could you boot that up and find out what driver its using? Or find the sources to which ever driver you need and I'll compile it.
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OlddogNewtricks

Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 04:38    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx, loking very good so far however Beep doesn't work, beep-media-player file missing

Pmount doesn't show CD when the drive is empty or the CD is blank. Also the tray recycles when unmounting.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 05:49    Post subject:  

OlddogNewtricks wrote:
Hi ttuuxxx, loking very good so far however Beep doesn't work, beep-media-player file missing

Pmount doesn't show CD when the drive is empty or the CD is blank. Also the tray recycles when unmounting.

The pmount thing could be because of the version that was used, maybe its a feature, mount only if it needs to mounted. Beep on the other hand is strange. Looks like v6 might be coming tonight if we get enough new bugs. I don't feel comfortable to let it go and have a lot of new issues that easily could be fixed.

So if anyone ones find the bugs and I'll do a quick update release #6 maybe tonight, the other previous issues can be worked on the next release.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 05:49    Post subject:  

Ttuuxxx, I finally have 2.14x5 installed.......I had a bit of a disagreement with grub but it submitted in the end,

Package manager works fine, thanks again for the quick fix.

I did a full install on a P3 733mhz, 256 mb ram and 1gb swap. 2.14x5 seems to use a lot less resources than 4.20. On this machine I'm booting Windows 2000 (nlited naturally), Debris 1.5, Puppy 4.20, Puppy 4.12 and now 2.14x5, which uses the least ram and CPU.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 07:53    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose

I suspect you have a recent ATI chip, and Puppy214's Xorg7.0 won't play well with it.

ttuuxxx wrote:
Well we can't be having that can we, lol If you have say 4 series laying around could you boot that up and find out what driver its using?

It will almost certainly be the "radeon" Xorg driver.

ttuuxxx wrote:
Or find the sources to which ever driver you need and I'll compile it.

Well that would be the Xorg source ... which is extremely large - around 1GB.
Puppy4 probably works for puppyluvr because it has the newer Xorg7.3. Transplanting the Xorg7.3 radeon driver back into Xorg7.0 in Puppy2 is likely to result in a crash.

I think a good prospect for puppyluvr would be the proprietary ATI 3D driver. MU compiled various versions of these drivers for Puppy 2, 3, and 4 series. The 2-series installer (for kernel 2.6.18.1) is here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
I think it installs this dotpup -
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/ATI-8.25.18.pup
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 08:44    Post subject:  

Hi again ttuuxxx,
Iv'e copied beep-media-player executable from X4 to X5 and beep's fine now so a simple pet download might do you for now. I can't find any other obvious bugs at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 08:49    Post subject:  

tempestuous wrote:

Would you happen to know how to fix the 'Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0' error, I've read about it and its looking for the
When i go online and find a fix, this is what they say

To get the SHAPE extension, you need to load the extmod module in your xorg.conf:

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
# load some other stuff ...
EndSection


When I go to the xorg.conf I get this,
## Dougal: moved module section into xorgwizard.

When I search for 'extmod' on 2.14 <-- Barry's version.2.15ce,2.14R,2.14X there is no module called extmod, there is one called libextmod in all of them. Is this the same? Should be, Man its confusing, should I just take the xorgwizard out of say 2.15 and the xorg.conf out of 2.15 and see if that works? And if so will we loose any added features that 2.14.1 has?
This issue does need to be fix due to the size of the error file /tmp/xerrs.log The same log error repeats hundreds of times and about 1 hr using 2.14x it takes up 610kb, after a few days its really big unless you restart X server and it deletes.
If have any Idea on fixing this it would be great.
Thanks for your help
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 09:58    Post subject:  

ok added the BMP fix to page 1 of this thread. Smile
any other new/old issues?
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 10:30    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
@Ttuuxxx, Jwm config starts from the menu, but here is the error for jwmconfig from the CLI:

I symlinked the files, and got rid of that error.
When run from the menu it starts, but any attempt to change anything gets:


As for org, I meant it worked fine in 214rx4, (not 4.xx series Puppy)
Yes, it is the radeon driver,

As for frugal install, Ive been trying it manually...
I will try from the installer....

Also, Firefo finally did crash....caused by scrolling to fast...Hmmm..
Other than that, works wonderfully...

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 10:47    Post subject:  

puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy Hello,



Here's a question, are you using version4 and not version5, version 5 has that fixed, I just tried it and this is what I got
sh-3.00# jwmconfig
Could not find environment variable 'JWM_Display_Manager'.

and it came right up and also works in the menu. All that 'c' locale stuff is fixed in version 5, You might also check and see if you have the pup_214R.sfs in one of your hard drive partitions, if so it will load the older version and not load the latest version on disk, a good way to tell, is when you boot up, is one of your hard drive icons on the bottom of the screen mounted? if so its found a older pup_214R.sfs and its using that one.
It happened to me today when I tried the v5 version, I even booted as 'puppy pix=ram' that only ignores saved sessions, but doesn't ignore pup_214R.sfs files.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jul 2009, 11:11    Post subject:  

If anyone likes Snes emulators, I posted one for 2.14X located on http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=322903#322903
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