Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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#751 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 06:06

James C wrote:Thanks for the quick package manager fix.

You don't waste any time, do you?

Well Its kind of important,lol but its a shame that sometimes when you finally fix something thats been nagging you that another thing like the package manager gets broken, well it was easy enough to fix, all I had to do was run the broken package manager via the command line and look at the output in terminal and also in the log, Straight away it told me that the package manager locales were missing, so I just copied them over from 4 series, since the package manager is a hacked 4 series version, or was it 5, hmmm it works anyways, lol
ttuuxxx

#752 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 07:10

On page 1 of this thread I'll try to keep a better track of whats been fixed in 2.14X, Hope that helps with documentation

A bit late but better late than never, also when Its finished someone could always compare 2.14.1R with 2.14X diff and have a total list of updates, I bet that list would be very large, something around 60%+ I would say.
ttuuxxx

puppyluvr · #753 Post by **puppyluvr** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 07:26

Hello,
Well, I`m running x5 ATM...Short review...
All in all, excellent...
Tested on 2 machines so far..
It flies on the old P3...Wireless works fine for both broadcom and raylink...

Firefox works perfectly...first 3.x series to do so...No lockups, no crashes, loves the addons and themes, flash works perfect...
Gimp installed and works fine..

However...jwmconfig is still mislocated...
And "init" is still the parent of all processes...
(Still cant frugal install it...will try full eventually)
Did I miss the answer for that one somewhere??

On the P4 laptop:
It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose, so I`m in vesa ATM, but my I810 worked fine for xorg on the "dinosaur" P3...
Will test on more machines and get back...

#754 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 07:52

puppyluvr wrote: Hello,
Well, I`m running x5 ATM...Short review...
All in all, excellent...

However...jwmconfig is still mislocated...
And "init" is still the parent of all processes...
(Still cant frugal install it...will try full eventually)
Did I miss the answer for that one somewhere??

have you tried the jwmconfig from the menu? It works, I tried the menu height, set gtk2 theme, even the locale I changed from en_us to en_au, now that was cool

So what part of jwmconfig isn't working and I'll try to fix it.
ttuuxxx

#755 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 08:05

puppyluvr wrote: Hello,

It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose, ...

Well we can't be having that can we, lol If you have say 4 series laying around could you boot that up and find out what driver its using? Or find the sources to which ever driver you need and I'll compile it.
ttuuxxx

OlddogNewtricks · #756 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 08:38

Hi ttuuxxx, loking very good so far however Beep doesn't work, beep-media-player file missing

Pmount doesn't show CD when the drive is empty or the CD is blank. Also the tray recycles when unmounting.

#757 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 09:49

OlddogNewtricks wrote:Hi ttuuxxx, loking very good so far however Beep doesn't work, beep-media-player file missing

Pmount doesn't show CD when the drive is empty or the CD is blank. Also the tray recycles when unmounting.

The pmount thing could be because of the version that was used, maybe its a feature, mount only if it needs to mounted. Beep on the other hand is strange. Looks like v6 might be coming tonight if we get enough new bugs. I don't feel comfortable to let it go and have a lot of new issues that easily could be fixed.

So if anyone ones find the bugs and I'll do a quick update release #6 maybe tonight, the other previous issues can be worked on the next release.
ttuuxxx

James C · #758 Post by **James C** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 09:49

Ttuuxxx, I finally have 2.14x5 installed.......I had a bit of a disagreement with grub but it submitted in the end,

Package manager works fine, thanks again for the quick fix.

I did a full install on a P3 733mhz, 256 mb ram and 1gb swap. 2.14x5 seems to use a lot less resources than 4.20. On this machine I'm booting Windows 2000 (nlited naturally), Debris 1.5, Puppy 4.20, Puppy 4.12 and now 2.14x5, which uses the least ram and CPU.

tempestuous · #759 Post by **tempestuous** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 11:53

puppyluvr wrote:It doesnt like my ATI card, limiting me to 800x600 no matter what I choose

I suspect you have a recent ATI chip, and Puppy214's Xorg7.0 won't play well with it.

ttuuxxx wrote:Well we can't be having that can we, lol If you have say 4 series laying around could you boot that up and find out what driver its using?

It will almost certainly be the "radeon" Xorg driver.

ttuuxxx wrote:Or find the sources to which ever driver you need and I'll compile it.

Well that would be the Xorg source ... which is extremely large - around 1GB.
Puppy4 probably works for puppyluvr because it has the newer Xorg7.3. Transplanting the Xorg7.3 radeon driver back into Xorg7.0 in Puppy2 is likely to result in a crash.

I think a good prospect for puppyluvr would be the proprietary ATI 3D driver. MU compiled various versions of these drivers for Puppy 2, 3, and 4 series. The 2-series installer (for kernel 2.6.18.1) is here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
I think it installs this dotpup -
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/ATI-8.25.18.pup

OlddogNewtricks · #760 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 12:44

Hi again ttuuxxx,
Iv'e copied beep-media-player executable from X4 to X5 and beep's fine now so a simple pet download might do you for now. I can't find any other obvious bugs at the moment.

#761 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 12:49

[quote="tempestuous"][/quote]
Would you happen to know how to fix the 'Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0' error, I've read about it and its looking for the
When i go online and find a fix, this is what they say

To get the SHAPE extension, you need to load the extmod module in your xorg.conf:

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
# load some other stuff ...
EndSection

When I go to the xorg.conf I get this,
## Dougal: moved module section into xorgwizard.

When I search for 'extmod' on 2.14 <-- Barry's version.2.15ce,2.14R,2.14X there is no module called extmod, there is one called libextmod in all of them. Is this the same? Should be, Man its confusing, should I just take the xorgwizard out of say 2.15 and the xorg.conf out of 2.15 and see if that works? And if so will we loose any added features that 2.14.1 has?
This issue does need to be fix due to the size of the error file /tmp/xerrs.log The same log error repeats hundreds of times and about 1 hr using 2.14x it takes up 610kb, after a few days its really big unless you restart X server and it deletes.
If have any Idea on fixing this it would be great.
Thanks for your help
ttuuxxx

#762 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 13:58

ok added the BMP fix to page 1 of this thread.

any other new/old issues?
ttuuxxx

puppyluvr · #763 Post by **puppyluvr** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 14:30

Hello,
@Ttuuxxx, Jwm config starts from the menu, but here is the error for jwmconfig from the CLI:

I symlinked the files, and got rid of that error.
When run from the menu it starts, but any attempt to change anything gets:

As for org, I meant it worked fine in 214rx4, (not 4.xx series Puppy)
Yes, it is the radeon driver,

As for frugal install, Ive been trying it manually...
I will try from the installer....

Also, Firefo finally did crash....caused by scrolling to fast...Hmmm..
Other than that, works wonderfully...

#764 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 14:47

puppyluvr wrote: Hello,

Here's a question, are you using version4 and not version5, version 5 has that fixed, I just tried it and this is what I got
sh-3.00# jwmconfig
Could not find environment variable 'JWM_Display_Manager'.

and it came right up and also works in the menu. All that 'c' locale stuff is fixed in version 5, You might also check and see if you have the pup_214R.sfs in one of your hard drive partitions, if so it will load the older version and not load the latest version on disk, a good way to tell, is when you boot up, is one of your hard drive icons on the bottom of the screen mounted? if so its found a older pup_214R.sfs and its using that one.
It happened to me today when I tried the v5 version, I even booted as 'puppy pix=ram' that only ignores saved sessions, but doesn't ignore pup_214R.sfs files.
ttuuxxx

#765 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 15:11

If anyone likes Snes emulators, I posted one for 2.14X located on http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 903#322903
ttuuxxx

tubby · #766 Post by **tubby** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 15:34

ttuuxxx

Maybe a symlink to /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg is needed in usr/lib
I have no room on my hard drive to try it myself, sorry.

#767 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 16:03

Thanks for the idea tubby but it didn't work

But then I figured why not revert back to the way 2.15ce was before dougal changed things, i moved about 5 scripts, change back xorgwizard and gave it a shot. It work!!!!!!!!!!!! that error is now gone,

now to remember what I did, lol
I'll get it

but that is cool, I just hope we won't be missing any added modules/screen sizes by reverting to 2.15ce specs. I'm not usingany modules just the xorg scripts.
ttuuxxx

tubby · #768 Post by **tubby** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 18:20

Glad you sorted something out, sorry if my idea gave you a headache.

#769 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 18:23

V6 is out and boy what a difference now when you check for errors

Forget about V5, go straight to V6, details on page 1, This release is a milestone !!
ttuuxxx

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.18-inside-sandbox i386
Current Operating System: Linux puppypc 2.6.18.1 #1 Thu Feb 1 23:05:39 PUP 2007 i686
Build Date: 08 August 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Jul 12 03:51:51 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
killall: HotPup.sh: no process killed
1024
992
992
killall: glipper: no process killed
3914: old priority 0, new priority 19
Pathname: /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav
Device: /dev/dsp
Sampling Rate: 8000 Hz
Mode: Mono
Samples: 4728
Bits: 16

#770 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 11 Jul 2009, 18:25

ps that report is after 30 mins of use

before it would of been 50 pages long,

ttuuxxx

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