Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx,
something happened when you worked on the xorg-scripts, in 214X6 xorgwizard is run at every boot, and also if X Server is restarted . Had none of these problems in 214X4

MHHP, tried pupshots-v2p03, didn't work for me(save settings that is), also the save button doesn't look very solid.

If you change some setting, say, format png, then tick the "save settings" box, take the shot, is png or jpg default next time Pup-Shots is run?

cheers/
MHHP

Hi I don't think its a V6 problem more of maybe you corrupted something, because you just state even when you restart X server the wizard comes up, I've done it about 20 times already searching for errors in /tmp and not once did the wizard startup again,

Has anyone else restarted X-Server and had to deal with the Xorg setup wizard? or does it just go to your desktop like it should???
ttuuxxx

[tony]

Hi,

Always been a fan of 214R so tried to put this version on HDD.

The universal installer could not find pup_214R.sfs on CD, said it couldn't find pup_214.sfs.

Copied CD files to HDD renamed pup_214R to pup_214.sfs.

Still no luck

Regards Tony

[ttuuxxx]

Hi,

Always been a fan of 214R so tried to put this version on HDD.

The universal installer could not find pup_214R.sfs on CD, said it couldn't find pup_214.sfs.

Copied CD files to HDD renamed pup_214R to pup_214.sfs.

Still no luck

Regards Tony

Well I consider that good news , the reason why people were having issues with it and I used the one from 215ce, hmmm I wonder why it wasn't asking for 215, anyways I'll try to fix it and post a update.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi,

Always been a fan of 214R so tried to put this version on HDD.

The universal installer could not find pup_214R.sfs on CD, said it couldn't find pup_214.sfs.

Copied CD files to HDD renamed pup_214R to pup_214.sfs.

Still no luck

Regards Tony

Hi tony go to /etc/puppyversion
and (right click, open as text) and change that to 214R and it should work. I just tried it and it worked It didn't until I made the change.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx,
something happened when you worked on the xorg-scripts, in 214X6 xorgwizard is run at every boot, and also if X Server is restarted . Had none of these problems in 214X4

cheers/
MHHP

could you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and restart xorg wizard and setup again, maybe your xorg.conf was damaged somehow.
once you get back to jwm then restart-X Server again and see if the wizard reappears or if all is fixed?
ttuuxxx

[MinHundHettePerro]

... could you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
and restart xorg wizard and setup again, maybe your xorg.conf was damaged somehow.
once you get back to jwm then restart-X Server again and see if the wizard reappears or if all is fixed?
ttuuxxx

To make sure this error does not originate from my own wrong-doings, I burned a CD, disconnected my Puppy HDD, made a new pup_save-file on a HDD on which I've never had any Puppy-files, and the problem persists.

Back on my normal Puppy-HDD (frugal 214X6), I copied xorgwizard from 214X4 and ran it; everything works fine.
Seems like xorgwizard in 214X6 fails to write one important line to xorg.conf:
excerpt from xorg.conf written with xorgwizard in 214X6

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 320 240 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "IBM"
ModelName "IBM 0182 C72"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-69
VertRefresh 50-85
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
EndSection

excerpt from xorg.conf written with xorgwizard from 214X4

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 320 240 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "IBM"
ModelName "IBM 0182 C72"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30.0-69.0
VertRefresh 50.0-85.0
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "800x600"
EndSection

Having the line marked in red in xorg.conf solves the problem with screen-settings not being remembered with any restart of the X Server, even if changing back to xorgwizard from 214X6 (unless I change the resolution of course ). At least it's a work-around for now .

cheers/
MHHP

[ttuuxxx]

hmmmm That will have to get fixed, it gives me the preferred mode on 416 also. Thats what I have bootup right now. We can go back to the old one and have all those errors again. Below is the wizard from 416 its the latest one. want to test it and see if that one works?
ttuuxxx

[MinHundHettePerro]

hmmmm That will have to get fixed, it gives me the preferred mode on 416 also. Thats what I have bootup right now. We can go back to the old one and have all those errors again. Below is the wizard from 416 its the latest one. want to test it and see if that one works?
ttuuxxx

Thanks, that solves my issue .

P.S. I did delete all files in /etc/X11 before testing .

cheers/
MHHP

[OlddogNewtricks]

Hi MHHP, you're right, pupshots won't save settings unless you take a shot. I was a bit quick of the mark there. Great stuff.

[ttuuxxx]

hmmmm That will have to get fixed, it gives me the preferred mode on 416 also. Thats what I have bootup right now. We can go back to the old one and have all those errors again. Below is the wizard from 416 its the latest one. want to test it and see if that one works?
ttuuxxx

Thanks, that solves my issue .

P.S. I did delete all files in /etc/X11 before testing .

cheers/
MHHP

Noway !! Get out of town, it couldn't be that easy??? What's ever easy doing this stuff, I feel spoiled for once, lol
ttuuxxx

[dejan555]

err, another thing, dunno if it's system issue, but speaker beep doesn't work? when i set gaim or chatzilla or weechat using speaker beep sounds for highlight noticing, no sound?

[8-bit]

frugal install (copied files from expanded iso and edited menu.lst)
loads kernel
loads pup_214R.sfs
then message saying

init

init is the mother of all processes

md5 checksum matched for download.
burnt cd booted fine.

What am I missing here?

[reckrhodes]

Hi

Be sure that in the menu.lst you have this line root=/dev/ram0 in the kernel.
Example:

title Puppy-Linux 214x6 (by Ttuuxxx)
kernel (hd0,0)/puppy214x6/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (hd0,0)/puppy214x6/initrd.gz
boot

Hope this will help

[8-bit]

Thanks. The root=/dev/ram0 worked in the frugal install.
No sound with my invidia chipset Compaq PC though.
Of course I realize that this version when it was first released did not have support for newer hardware.
video is fine though.
and eth0 is using forcedeth driver.

[ttuuxxx]

I'll see what I can do about sound drivers in a couple of days, maybe try to compile alsa.
ttuuxxx

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,
@ ttuuxxx,
Pburn Gui, one change.
What about something like that? But not sure it works. Hav'nt tested.
Cordialement

[ttuuxxx]

well its close just missing format disk and burn data:)
ttuuxxx

[James C]

I was having a pretty good night, I installed 4.16 .....no problem.Downloaded Firefox 3.5 ....no problem.

Decided to replace 2.14rX5 with X6.....big problems.I went through all the stuff Tony did, a page or two back.The installer couldn't find the files on the cd, copied the files to the hard drive and changed the names, still no install.

Thought installing over X5 might be the problem, wiped the partition and still wouldn't install.Changed the text in Puppyversion that you mentioned in a post.The installer ran all the way through grub,rebooted and .......no boot.

Checked the partition, hda9 in fact, and it was empty. Nothing had been copied.Next try it installed, and booted but nothing worked right.Wouldn't even detect my network card.FF3.5 wouldn't launch, etc.

Wiped the partition again, fixed grub and think I'll wait for X7.

The live cd is great but something is messed up trying a full install. I'll still test X6, live saving to usb.

Sorry for the rant and I hope we figure out the problem.By the way, posting with FF3.5 from 4.16 and it's working great. Uses a lot more resources than 2.14r though.

[davesurrey]

Had to go away again this weekend but just got back and see not one but two new versions!

1. Tried to download v6 from gposil site but three downloads were "completed" with 74MB, 31MB and 45MB downloads only. Trying now using wget instead. Never had any such problems before so very much doubt it's my system at fault.

2. Interesting post by MHHP about grub boot stanzas. I have always used 214X in a subdirectory containing vmlinuz, initrd.gz, zdrv_214R and pup_214R.sfs plus my pup_save file.

But as I have reported previously the PUI never let me set it up that way, instead putting vmlinuz and initrd in /hdb1/boot/pup214X, and zdrv, pup_214R and save file in /mnt/david ie top level, so I had to manually install that way.

I have been able to use the much simpler grub stanza:

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title        puppy 214X4 frugal on hdb3
rootnoverify  (hd1,2)
kernel   /pup214X/vmlinuz  root=/dev/ram0  PMEDIA=idehd  psubdir=pup214X
initrd     /pup214X/initrd.gz

So my question is what is the purpose of all the extra comments in the stanza that MHHP uses and that vg1 proposed?

Is it so that other 2-series puppies can co-exist on the same partition/drive?

Aha, wget worked and I now have 108MB worth of 214x6 to play with.
Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

I was having a pretty good night, I installed 4.16 .....no problem.Downloaded Firefox 3.5 ....no problem.

Decided to replace 2.14rX5 with X6.....big problems.I went through all the stuff Tony did, a page or two back.The installer couldn't find the files on the cd, copied the files to the hard drive and changed the names, still no install.

Thought installing over X5 might be the problem, wiped the partition and still wouldn't install.Changed the text in Puppyversion that you mentioned in a post.The installer ran all the way through grub,rebooted and .......no boot.

Checked the partition, hda9 in fact, and it was empty. Nothing had been copied.Next try it installed, and booted but nothing worked right.Wouldn't even detect my network card.FF3.5 wouldn't launch, etc.

Wiped the partition again, fixed grub and think I'll wait for X7.

The live cd is great but something is messed up trying a full install. I'll still test X6, live saving to usb.

Sorry for the rant and I hope we figure out the problem.By the way, posting with FF3.5 from 4.16 and it's working great. Uses a lot more resources than 2.14r though.

A easy way to install ff3.5 in 4.16 is copy /lib/firefox from 2.14xv5or6 to
/lib/firefox and dbus libs from usr/lib/ from 2.14X and the open lib/firefox folder in 416 and open another /lib/ in 416 folder and system link the .so files to the lib directory, then system the firefox exec to usr/bin or usr/sbin and make a firefox.desktop file, usually just copy the seamonkey one and edit it.
Why would you do this? well the way I have it setup will copy over, all the changes I did in firefox is located in the /lib/firefox folder, so once thats up and running, you'll have the wysiwyg,smpilemail,flashblock,forum links, and all the custom search engines already installed and ready to go. Just like in 2.14X I used to do it in the .root/mozilla/firefox folder but, the newer way is great. If I want to clear 100% of the junk etc, I just delete the whole .mozilla/firefox folder and restart firefox and its all back to the original settings,bookmarks etc. before you would loose all the plugins, flash etc, not the new way
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