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Moose On The Loose


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 10:58    Post subject:  

foofecker wrote:
Running Puppy from a USB key on a Sony Vaio laptop/netbook as my Lubuntu distro crashed and I haven't gotten around to fixing it. Using Slacko 6.3. 1.6ghz AMD processor, 4gb RAM.

Puppy runs surprisingly well and I quite like it even as a backup. I've no real technical knowledge of computers though and Puppy is confusing me.

It's running from the RAM and the site assures me that this is fine and normal, but I don't quite understand how the storage is working. Or if installing it to the HDD is better? Also, can I just plug it into any PC now to work as per usual or will that mess with settings every time?


If you make a "savefile", the next time you boot, puppy will look for it and if it finds it and also if the hardware it sees supports the choices you made, there will be no questions.

If you move onto a new machine taking the save file with you, you may get asked questions if puppy thinks the choices from before don't apply to this hardware.

For most users, running out of ram is fine. If you are doing stuff like video editing or some scientific computing, you may want to consider a full install.
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847563

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Location: Mos Eisley, South Australia

PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 17:48    Post subject: Newbies - Puppy needs YOUR help too!
Subject description: Y not Puppy
 

Puppy is great and stable, but, IMO it still suffers a lot from old Dos type command strings which of course have to be syntactically correct to work. As a Windoze user this has largely been taken care of (which keeps their users dumb) but does usually achieve the end result. I don;t want to have to learn this stuff, just select from options and have it done.

Also the programs which are additionally loaded get put somewhere and I can't find where they are to install.

If I didn't have to struggle with these problems your usage would be much higher. Note that this has improved with new releases of self installing distros, but more needs to be done.

I am running this from a small usb stick on a win7 machine and love it's speed.

Cheers,

847563
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Sailor Enceladus

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 18:19    Post subject: Re: Newbies - Puppy needs YOUR help too!
Subject description: Y not Puppy
 

847563 wrote:
Puppy is great and stable, but, IMO it still suffers a lot from old Dos type command strings which of course have to be syntactically correct to work. As a Windoze user this has largely been taken care of (which keeps their users dumb) but does usually achieve the end result. I don;t want to have to learn this stuff, just select from options and have it done.

Can you give some examples? I think each command would have to be looked at separately to integrate into what you need.
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Semme


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 18:27    Post subject:  

"Syntactically" is a word in what universe?

Yeah, well, it's so easy -- Build that pup Bro..
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I don't want to have to learn this stuff, just select from options and have it done.

Uh, incase you haven't noticed, Pup users @ large could care a less..
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If I didn't have to struggle with these problems your user-base would be much higher.

DON'T be so damn critical. You love it's speed? Enjoy it, and contribute as you're able.. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 17:13    Post subject: Re: Newbies - Puppy needs YOUR help too!
Subject description: Y not Puppy
 

847563 wrote:
Puppy is great and stable, but, IMO it still suffers a lot from old Dos type command strings which of course have to be syntactically correct to work. As a Windoze user this has largely been taken care of (which keeps their users dumb) but does usually achieve the end result. I don;t want to have to learn this stuff, just select from options and have it done.

Also the programs which are additionally loaded get put somewhere and I can't find where they are to install.

If I didn't have to struggle with these problems your usage would be much higher. Note that this has improved with new releases of self installing distros, but more needs to be done.

I am running this from a small usb stick on a win7 machine and love it's speed.

Cheers,

847563


Hmm Linux users in general get a hold of whats going on in their machines and can adjust things to suit themselves. Programs do not usually run unless you give them permission to run which saves all those malware programs from running too.

Its your choice . be led like a bull with a ring through its nose to the slaughter or live an interesting life on the farm without watching for the blade or the gun.

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Also the programs which are additionally loaded get put somewhere and I can't find where they are to install.


Most programs go into a binary .../bin/ directory . An .exe .is a binary proogram
There are a few of those however and depending on the program they can go in various places .
System operations ....../sys/bin/
Users programs...../usr/bin/...../usr/local/bin/..../usr/share/bin/
Its a free choice by the developer
some are using /opt/ for all their stuff i notice

If you want to find something use "pfind" in the menu under "Filesystem " ,give it some part of the name and stand back.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 17:19    Post subject:  

Semme wrote:
"Syntactically" is a word in what universe?:wink:
:wink: -works for me http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/syntactic

Yeah, well, it's so easy -- Build that pup Bro.. Two dots ,two dashes now? :wink::wink:
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I don't want to have to learn this stuff, just select from options and have it done.

Uh, incase you haven't noticed, Pup users @ large could not care [a] less..

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If I didn't have to struggle with these problems your user-base would be much higher.

DON'T be so damn critical. You love it's speed? Enjoy it, and contribute as you're able..

Now now Semme puff slower! :wink::wink
I hope you do not find this offensive Semme , its not meant to be , but I have decided you are probably Phillipino or Malaysian judging by your recent comments on English and punctuation . Am I right?

Well, perhaps just a pissed Aussie like me .
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Pelo

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct 2016, 07:38    Post subject: Newbies with Puppy Linux:  

Newbies with Puppy Linux: i did not translate any of above posts. I'm am still a newbie after three years living with a lot of puppies. Never i refused to give my ignorance to newbies in Linux programming.
But be sure you need patience with these guys ! you are silly, idiots, you make them loose time ! However we continue to give them some help. Some are very kind with Puppy newbies, but some are awfull, as if we were their slaves Exclamation My hope is that thousands of newbies (from Windows) register in the forum to ask silly questions of.. newbies Twisted Evil
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ARModer64


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 09:29    Post subject: I want Puppy but  

I like to install MATE on debiandog..
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backi

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 09:36    Post subject:  

Hi !
Mate will be really heavy ---more than 300 megab.

Maybe look here


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=930425#930425
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ARModer64


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Location: Bohol,Philippines

PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 20:47    Post subject:  

Just joined here yesterday (here in our timezone)..Currently using DebianDog.. And its quiet sonic speed on my Acer Aspire One D257.. (I am from 1.Windows 2.Debian and 3.archlinux) but the time I saw this Beautiful OS.. I tried almost all of the flavors.. XenialDog(pup),Debiandog(Dpup),Slacko,Saluki,tahrpup,Macpup..but I found my self stable in debiandog... The reason that I only joined here yesterday since last 2 years I am Only viewing And visiting this page.. but I cant stopped my self from joining since I wanna join any discussion on this OS if there is a thing that I can Help.. Smilen
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ARModer64


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 20:52    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
Hi !
Mate will be really heavy ---more than 300 megab.

Maybe look here


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=930425#930425


Yeah That's me asking how to install it and now..I finally Installed it. but it looks like ancient style (unlike linuxmint)..so i just removed it.. Anyway thanks for your help.. My greatest appreciation.. Smile
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Illutorium

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 22:04    Post subject: x64/PAE on to Modern puppies at Modern use drivers  

Then I will be have a another question about it build...
So if PAE/64bit (Common: x86 as 32bit or i686/x64) it's will use only Intel,Nvidia,AMD - when so how are be keeped at vintage graphics (except at FatDog64 of 700/710 and My build of "Tahr Lite") it anyway...?
So I removed at "*" of anything and replace to "radeon","novueau","intel","vesa" at Woof-CE - Effect? Less use at libraries at anyway of a Modern machines,When i don't want to be force at idea because that's would be a freedom it anyway' but I remember in a October 2010 (?) I will be modificated at Ubuntu Customization Kit when I removed at all vintage drivers and that's will still works anyway'
When so how are be so much keeped for a 64bit builds instead... (I will be want to a only questions for it anyway...)
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HerrBert

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov 2016, 13:00    Post subject: Re: Newbies - Puppy needs YOUR help too!
Subject description: Your feedback is important (but don't post technical queries here - use a new thread).
 

dogle wrote:
Newbies - Puppy is a brilliant distro for all sorts of people - but not yet for everyone (yet!). Some - hopefully just a few - don't get along with it. To make Puppy even better, we need to know WHY. If Puppy is not the answer to all your prayers, and especially if you are thinking of moving elsewhere, please pause and tell us what you didn't like, or what you would like to see get better, in this thread...

i'm afraid i can't help, because i don't think about moving elsewhere Wink
running different puppies on different machines, some older, one new with uefi. not all worked OOTB, but days of reading here in the forum helped getting all to work.

like ARModer64 i came here frequently to search for solutions since last year

in germany we say: "...wo ein Wille ist, ist auch ein Weg!"

in diesem Sinne

keep up the great work
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passenger237

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016, 19:37    Post subject:  

A tale of woe.

A couple of months ago I installed slacko-6.3.2 on sda, but something ate roughly 20 G of a more or less full install and not much more more.

Compared with sdb slacko-64 of about 4G with the same programmes something was wrong.

Doing an update of sdb the system locked up and has stopped booting and with a sda root directory so full it could not accept updates, I decided to do a reinstall.

Alas during reinstall this electronic marvel told me that it could not find the XX.sfs file and was abandoning the install.....

To digress...... There's more than one thread about this and though the thread I started is marked resolved, that's only cause I didn't understand the fix and decided to re download the iso and try again.

Both slacko installs went the same way ..... Carn't find XX.sfs. Boot abandoned!

So I installed Tahr-6.0.5 to find that it's a ubuntu spin and I hate ubuntu.

I will, with distinct reluctance, work with it, until slacko fix it's iso's inability to find XX.sfs.

However upon the first boot of Tahr-6.0.5, from sda1, it's asking me to set the langauge and time zone again.

Filed away under interesting and to digress again. The two programmes I installed into Tahr (Kvirc and Midori) are not in this boot. Nor will vlc work.

I carn't help but wonder how many have walked away from slacko puppy because the iso can't find the XX.sfs file therefore won't boot. It's not a good first impression.

Now I think I'll go examine the forums for a cure to vlc not working.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Dec 2016, 20:39    Post subject:  

Woe Woe Woe your boat.
Gently down the stream.
Merrily Merrily Merrily Merrily.
Mount the usb.

<to find the .sfs file> Laughing

Done usually during a frugal install. All other .sfs go in home.

I have put save files in Windows and have them found. Not sure where problem lies on the above post.
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