(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

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The full-install script uses the Puppy Universal Installer to do the actual copying from CD to hard drive, so it involves more steps. When the PUI gets to the point of installing GRUB, cancel it. (You will have to close five windows to make it stop.) Finish with a shutdown/reboot but do NOT make a pup_save file.
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Apologies if this is a stupid question : but if you cancel before installation of GRUB how do you get GRUB onto the hard drive to boot up?

I am thinking of installing in repacement of windows 2000 on an Inspiron 8000 with about 300MB RAM; then hoping that a download of a Linux driver for Edimax nLite minisize USB adaptor will allow wireless web connection through Net gear router ( although I am told a usb connector on such a machine will run slow )

PaulSmith;

If you're going to replace Windows any way; just use the
universal installer and mount Grub to mbr.

Visual help:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 565#201565

usb wifi works fine on my old Dell.
Edimax usb seems to be Linux friendly and Puppy likely has
drivers already included.

@Paul Smith: The installer sets up GRUB automatically.

Ive had a play with the scripts, but not changed them. It was just putting an extra layer on starting the script, so you would have to deliberatly put a password in to set the thing going.
Tested and it works. Basically its just been wrapped in a makeself file.
See this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43880

I have dropped it into /usr/bin and symlinked it to a folder in root called whateverilike

To make it i had the pinstall, the pwd script and the 2 shell scripts frusfr and fulscr.

I would like to install Puppy on an old Dell Latitude XPI laptop that I have. The problem I have is that it doesn't have the option to boot from the CD drive, only the floppy or HD, so I can't figure out how to get this installed. Is there some linux boot floppy I need? Can someone help me out? Thanks...

I had a problem similar on a csX. I upgraded the bios from the Dell website to A13 (or sonething like that) Could be worth exploring that option first.

If there is already windoze installed, use the new puppy installer

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44098

You could then delete the windows program files and my documents which would essentially leave puppy installed on an ntfs partition (yes...we can install linux to ntfs now )

Another way would be to use a puppy boot floppy called wakepup, which I believe then transfers "control" of the boot process to a cd.

http://www.puppylinux.org/?q=wiki/softw ... es/wakepup

Thanks, guy!

Up and running w/ a 4.2.1 Frugal install in minutes. I love it when things work.

i have an itronix gobook max ix550 and it has no cd drive i do have a usb can i install from a usb. also will puppy run my wireless netgear card, will puppy be faster than ubuntu 8.04...this thing is slow p3 128mb ram. i just want a surfing pc

My install was quick and easy.

However...grub does not work...cannot boot from HD.

Cancel my last comment,

I just re-installed 4.2.1 to HD as a full install.

Now everything works.

I am kinda' teetering on the edge here, wondering if this might be adaptable to provide an (any) advantage for netbook owners....

Theoretically, I should be able to boot an disc-burned iso on a full sized machine, use the Universal Installer to install Puppy onto a USB, boot from that USB onto a netbook, and (here is the theoretical part) run the USB Puppy's Universal Installer to accomplish a full install onto a netbook. All this to save the weight / burden of carrying an external CDROM drive around in my hip pocket... but I've never actually wiped everything and re-installed while I've been out on the road, so this remains theoretical to me. I have instead always returned 'home', with my head hung low, and used the external CD to correct my errant ways. (Has anybody actually done a full install to an internal hard drive, using only a normal/frugal USB Puppy as the entire source?)

Would an adaptation of this script / files provide any advantage over the theoretical procedure I've just outlined for (re)installation of a full install from a USB drive?

Maybe as an automated quick-erase security feature for a netbook's internal Solid State Drive?

Wondering/wandering minds... and all that.

-Roy

Hello. I am really new to this. I am trying to fix, umm reuse an old Dell laptop. It had Window vista on it and crashed. I was able to load an old version of Windows 98 SE that I had a disk for, but it isn't very usable for my needs. I was searching for a new OS when I came across Puppy, but I am definately not very good at all this. Can anyone simplify all this for a not too smart nurse back in school?

Roy wrote:I am kinda' teetering on the edge here, wondering if this might be adaptable to provide an (any) advantage for netbook owners....

Theoretically, I should be able to boot a disc-burned iso on a full sized machine, use the Universal Installer to install Puppy onto a USB, boot from that USB onto a netbook, and (here is the theoretical part) run the USB Puppy's Universal Installer to accomplish a full install onto a netbook. All this to save the weight / burden of carrying an external CDROM drive around in my hip pocket... but I've never actually wiped everything and re-installed while I've been out on the road, so this remains theoretical to me. I have instead always returned 'home', with my head hung low, and used the external CD to correct my errant ways. (Has anybody actually done a full install to an internal hard drive, using only a normal/frugal USB Puppy as the entire source?)

No I haven't done a full install from USB but I can't imagine how it would be different than installing from a Live disc.

As an aside these vendors sell Puppy on USB flash drive:
OSDisc, Puppy 4.3 USB
On-Disk, Puppy 4.2 USB
I’ll wager it’s available elsewhere too if you prefer to shop around.

SaraB67217 . There are 2 type of install you can perform, a Full or Frugal. Which install you use depends on how much memory the dell has.

256mb ram plus = Frugal otherwise a full install.

If you need to hunt around the forums for info use the Puppy Google search:


http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

More info in installing here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29356

and the beginners help page in the forum is here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=2

If you find your stuck shout up.

rcrsn51 wrote:For recyclers who want to image machines quickly, the easiest solution would be a remastered Live CD with the installer folder on the CD but external to the sfs file.

Thanks for your scripts rcrsn51

The full-install interests me. So I Frenchified and added your script to remaster my Toutou Linux 4.1.2 repack (version edutainment FR, for children aged 3 to 12 years).

The beta version of this French adaptation (TL4.12-asri.edu-FULLversion_beta-1.5.5.iso) is available on http://dl.free.fr/MuYEYr/ASRI_education/login Identifiant : ASRI Mot de passe : education

After some tests, I am convince that this feature could save time for volunteers from the association that I chair (ASRI education http://asri.edu.free.fr/).

But things do not work and I don't know why. If someone can help me understand, it would be nice.

Indeed, when i use on my computer the script "fulscr", the result is a single format ext2 partition without swap (usually, I use ext3 + swap). Why ?

I also noticed a new file "pupswap.swp" placed at the root of the drive.
I read ligne 93 of the "fulscr" What does it mean ?

Best regards,

I made a frugal install to a Compact Flash Card to test an CF to PATA 2.5"(44pin) converter. All went O.K.
Desktop PC: Pentium 4 1700MHz, 768MB DRAM Memory, 1x FDD, 1x CD/DVD single side burner, no HDD (hard file).
HDD: thant's the point - using as an HDD replacement:
disconnected the only 3.5"HDD and installed instead:
mainboard - cable - 3,5" to 2,5" reduction - 44pinPATA to CF-card adapter - 256MB Compact Flash Card=sda1.
The swapfile (pupswap.swp) uses 128MB.
Red "storage full warning" appears on top of the screen - sda1 has four MB left free.
What for this exercise -
I'm planning to swap the HDD 8GB(customer replacable, W98SE and SUSE9.x) of my notebook (300MHz / 192MB Memory / USB1.2 / softmodem / CD ROM) against a 8GB 133x compactflash card (modifying an old HDD to carry the adapter with access for changing the CF card).
This entry is just to give feedback and to say MANY THANKS !
ciao Hubi
P.S.: repeated today this exercise by using an P-ATA (44pin=2,5"HDDs) to SD-card adapter, hence using a 2GB SD-Card as sda1.

I am not lucky ...

Nobody has an idea to unlock my problem?

I studied the script installation and I do not understand what's wrong.

Thank you in advance

ASRI eduction- This is on my to-do list. We did experiment with it some time ago, and dropped the full install part, however i have just looked through and Technosaurus came up with some code that will look at the ammount of RAM installed and then make a decision to do a Full or Frugal install. The full install could look back on that result and then double to make the appropriate swap.
I havn't looked at it for a while and am going to do a few full install's using the PUI and see exactly what is happening in the near future. Still working on SFS icons.

Heres the link to the posts
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 751#311751

Sidders, a big thank you for this information.

I immediately test the link you suggest.