I was born under a bridge in San Fransisco; am I not a troll?mikeb wrote:I thought the definition of a troll was someone or several people who went around winding up individuals with personal remarks.
Has anyone dual booted Puppy + Ubuntu with GRUB2?
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
So puppy 4.31 has ext4 support? Do you know if gparted can be used to shrink the partition and generate a new one of ext3 so puppy 4.21 could be installed? Its just I have a friend with a 9.10 install Eee and she would like to try Pupeee on it to try. To do it Im going to have to borrow an external CD and I would rather not bother if it cant be done.
Puppy Linux's [url=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=296352#296352]Mission[/url]
Sorry, my server is down atm!
Sorry, my server is down atm!
I've shrunk partitions a number of times using gparted in 4.1.2.
Haven't tried 4.3.1 gparted though, it creates partitions with
256 inodes, which can cause problems trying to boot earlier
puppies unless grub from 4.3.1 is also installed to mbr.
I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
Haven't tried 4.3.1 gparted though, it creates partitions with
256 inodes, which can cause problems trying to boot earlier
puppies unless grub from 4.3.1 is also installed to mbr.
I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
Don't have a clue how this will apply to 9.10, but this is what I found.
Did a full install of 4.3.1 to an ext.4 partition. 2gb
Rebooted the 4.3.1 cd and shrunk the partition in half. 1gb
(4.3.1 partitions can not be worked on with earlier puppy cds')
Booted 4.2.1 cd, created ext.3 partition on unallocated half, and
did full install of 4.2.1
They both work fine.
The grub on the mbr is from 4.3.1 and boots both os.
An earlier grub will not boot 4.3.1 in this case.
Did a full install of 4.3.1 to an ext.4 partition. 2gb
Rebooted the 4.3.1 cd and shrunk the partition in half. 1gb
(4.3.1 partitions can not be worked on with earlier puppy cds')
Booted 4.2.1 cd, created ext.3 partition on unallocated half, and
did full install of 4.2.1
They both work fine.
The grub on the mbr is from 4.3.1 and boots both os.
An earlier grub will not boot 4.3.1 in this case.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
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Just to confirm grub-0.97 (legacy) uses the same menu.lst syntax whether using the grub in the older puppys eg 412 and 420 or the more up to date version used in 431.If grub4dos is used then will boot both (latest version) but retain the legacy menu.lst syntax if that makes life easier)
It's Grub2 where it's all change.
HTH
Dave
Greetings,
My frugal boots fine with grub2 but I find that this thread has turned into a forum on ubuntu and grub2 rather than how to enter the boot code. Seems to me that if you don't like Ubuntu 9.10 or Grub 2 then you can put Grub1 on a pendrive and boot your frugals from the pendrive.
For myself Puppy was very useful to me in that it demonstrated that Linux was usable. Ubuntu proved to me that Linux could be "wonderful". After three years of messing with this linux stuff I have finally put together a Linux Distro that has everything that I had in WindowsXP and more, with better performance and stability. So I finally deleted my XP partition and reinstalled as a second partition with Ext3. I was able to do this with Ubuntu 9.10. Working in the terminal is no problem for me. It takes me back to the old MS Dos days. It isn't a matter of whether someone wants to work under the hood. It is a matter of, can you make the Distro functional for millions of school kids all over the planet and also meet the needs of business that need to take care of their customers, not play at the command line. Ubuntu does this! I love Puppy and understand it's original simple objective but sooner or later it will have to grow up.
This works ok for me. But not perfect! If I can get it better I will keep you posted.
menuentry "Puppy Linux Fatdog SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /FatdogFrugal/vmlinuz psubdir=FatdogFrugal
initrd /FatdogFrugal/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Puppy Linux 431 SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /puppy431/vmlinuz psubdir=puppy431
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz
}
EOF
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My frugal boots fine with grub2 but I find that this thread has turned into a forum on ubuntu and grub2 rather than how to enter the boot code. Seems to me that if you don't like Ubuntu 9.10 or Grub 2 then you can put Grub1 on a pendrive and boot your frugals from the pendrive.
For myself Puppy was very useful to me in that it demonstrated that Linux was usable. Ubuntu proved to me that Linux could be "wonderful". After three years of messing with this linux stuff I have finally put together a Linux Distro that has everything that I had in WindowsXP and more, with better performance and stability. So I finally deleted my XP partition and reinstalled as a second partition with Ext3. I was able to do this with Ubuntu 9.10. Working in the terminal is no problem for me. It takes me back to the old MS Dos days. It isn't a matter of whether someone wants to work under the hood. It is a matter of, can you make the Distro functional for millions of school kids all over the planet and also meet the needs of business that need to take care of their customers, not play at the command line. Ubuntu does this! I love Puppy and understand it's original simple objective but sooner or later it will have to grow up.
This works ok for me. But not perfect! If I can get it better I will keep you posted.
menuentry "Puppy Linux Fatdog SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /FatdogFrugal/vmlinuz psubdir=FatdogFrugal
initrd /FatdogFrugal/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Puppy Linux 431 SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /puppy431/vmlinuz psubdir=puppy431
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz
}
EOF
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I am always afraid that files are fragmented and that shrinking a partition could lead to loss of data.rjbrewer wrote:I've shrunk partitions a number of times using gparted in 4.1.2.
Haven't tried 4.3.1 gparted though, it creates partitions with
256 inodes, which can cause problems trying to boot earlier
puppies unless grub from 4.3.1 is also installed to mbr.
I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
Am I too afraid?
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Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
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Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
[url=http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HomePage]Consult Wikka[/url]
Use peppyy's [url=http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html]puppysearch[/url]
I never had a problem that way Beem.Béèm wrote:I am always afraid that files are fragmented and that shrinking a partition could lead to loss of data.rjbrewer wrote:I've shrunk partitions a number of times using gparted in 4.1.2.
Haven't tried 4.3.1 gparted though, it creates partitions with
256 inodes, which can cause problems trying to boot earlier
puppies unless grub from 4.3.1 is also installed to mbr.
I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
Am I too afraid?
Spup Frugal HD and USB
Root forever!
Root forever!
Grub 2 This works!
Greetings,
This is working perfect for me.
menuentry "Puppy Linux Fatdog SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /FatdogFrugal/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=FatdogFrugal
initrd /FatdogFrugal/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Puppy Linux 431 SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /puppy431/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=puppy431
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz
}
EOF
Booting with Grub2 on an Ubuntu 9.10 system.
I have both frugal installs on a separate 5Gig EXT2 partition created with the Puppy 431 CD.
Each directory has a blank text file named "SATAHD".
If you have a IDE drive you may need to rename this to "IDEHD".
Note that the psubdir doesn't have the root indicator "/".
Also, I was getting poor boot performance until I deleted my save file and started over with a new save file. With the new save file there are no boot irregularities {period!].
Have fun.
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This is working perfect for me.
menuentry "Puppy Linux Fatdog SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /FatdogFrugal/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=FatdogFrugal
initrd /FatdogFrugal/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Puppy Linux 431 SDA2"{
set root=(hd0,2)
linux /puppy431/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=puppy431
initrd /puppy431/initrd.gz
}
EOF
Booting with Grub2 on an Ubuntu 9.10 system.
I have both frugal installs on a separate 5Gig EXT2 partition created with the Puppy 431 CD.
Each directory has a blank text file named "SATAHD".
If you have a IDE drive you may need to rename this to "IDEHD".
Note that the psubdir doesn't have the root indicator "/".
Also, I was getting poor boot performance until I deleted my save file and started over with a new save file. With the new save file there are no boot irregularities {period!].
Have fun.
TLCSTAT
Ubuntu 9.10 Grub 2 Update
Greetings,
My Ubuntu 9.10 Update just [yesterday] came up with a Grub2 patch that allows the option for scripting in grub.conf. It is an update option. In other words you can install the update to revert to scripting or keep the new grub2 format. Either way the update-grub will apply. I choose to use the new format to put Puppy in the 40_custom file. Life goes on so might as well learn the new format. I'm a new Linux user anyway so no big deal. Just as a side note, I have deleted all of my M$ partitions, so I am now 100% Ext2,3,4. I found out that "Avast has a Linux version and my Serial works for both versions, so I installed Avast in my Ubuntu and now I don't know what to do with it! If I could move it from the virtual to the material I would use it for a door stop.
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My Ubuntu 9.10 Update just [yesterday] came up with a Grub2 patch that allows the option for scripting in grub.conf. It is an update option. In other words you can install the update to revert to scripting or keep the new grub2 format. Either way the update-grub will apply. I choose to use the new format to put Puppy in the 40_custom file. Life goes on so might as well learn the new format. I'm a new Linux user anyway so no big deal. Just as a side note, I have deleted all of my M$ partitions, so I am now 100% Ext2,3,4. I found out that "Avast has a Linux version and my Serial works for both versions, so I installed Avast in my Ubuntu and now I don't know what to do with it! If I could move it from the virtual to the material I would use it for a door stop.
tlcstat
Within a few days? we get Ubuntu 10.04 with Grub2 coming and a lot of us want to dualboot ubuntu and puppy and most likely Linux Mint 9 that also will have grub2?
Do easy to follow instructions would be cool to have.
We seems to have to learn to do the UUID thing too
By accident I happen to find out how one did it and now I have already forgotten about it again.
I never managed to do the updating of grub. I had to cheat by manually forcing the config to accept a frugal Puppy and then keep a back up of how one does it in case next automatic update erase or delete my manual cheat code entry.
Do easy to follow instructions would be cool to have.
We seems to have to learn to do the UUID thing too
By accident I happen to find out how one did it and now I have already forgotten about it again.
I never managed to do the updating of grub. I had to cheat by manually forcing the config to accept a frugal Puppy and then keep a back up of how one does it in case next automatic update erase or delete my manual cheat code entry.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though