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#151 Post by Caneri »

Hi All,
The permissions are fixed...devx will download now.
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#152 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi here's a small mp3/ogg splitter any testers? I haven't tested it yet :)
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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FTP download for Puppy 4.31.1 ?

#153 Post by Raman »

For those of us with slow, slow dialup connections, an FTP download site for Puppy 4.31.1 would be very welcome.

Hail Puppy!

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#154 Post by DaveS »

I hit a strange problem Ttuuxxx. Installed ttcorefont.pet as I have done so many times in the past, but Firefox does not pick them up. Any thoughts? I set prefs to allow web sites to use their own fonts...................
Using 'main'.
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#155 Post by green_dome »

Would it be possible for you to add Unetbootin to this puplet? I am having difficulty getting it to work. Probably something simple I am missing.
By the way, I really appreciate all the work you have done thus far.

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#156 Post by sunburnt »

Got it running today and Firefox is twitchy, crashes at anything.
The only web site it won`t crash on is Google, even Yahoo crashes it!
I assume it needs FlashPlayer? Why is this always an addon?

Aqualung starts new player for every song clicked in ROX. Xine didn`t.
And it doesn`t stop running when you close it, it goes to the tray. Bad...

As little as I liked Barry`s 400 SeaMonkey, it`s better in a lot of ways.

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#157 Post by ttuuxxx »

sunburnt wrote:Got it running today and Firefox is twitchy, crashes at anything.
The only web site it won`t crash on is Google, even Yahoo crashes it!
I assume it needs FlashPlayer? Why is this always an addon? Funny how FF3.5 can run perfect on some Pc's and others have issues like yours, Also it has the latest flash player /lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Aqualung starts new player for every song clicked in ROX. Xine didn`t.
And it doesn`t stop running when you close it, it goes to the tray. Bad...
I made it to open just one window at a time, before it was like select 10 songs with streamtuner and have 10 windows, It goes to the tray so you can listen to music and surf the next which is handy, but you can disable the tray feature in the preferences.

As little as I liked Barry`s 400 SeaMonkey, it`s better in a lot of ways.
I also liked windows 98 and xp once, lol Who asked? I'm sick with a cold and some people complain too much, no looking before you leap here.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#158 Post by sinc »

ttuuxxx, you just work on getting over your cold and try not to take offense when one person prefers one application to another one. its all about choices.

sunburnt (my wife is a dermatologist and would definitely lecture you about that, but...) try using xvesa instead of xorg. i would also get crashes in xorg but in xvesa it has never crashed once for me. and just b/c firefox is supported mainstream so much more it really makes it worth it.

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#159 Post by James C »

FWIW, I'm running FF 3.5.3 on Ttuuxxx's 4.31, "official" 4.30, DPup, 2.14 X11 and 2.20 and have had zero crashes. Since I'm testing a lot i try to crash FF and I can't....on my equipment anyway.

Still not satisfied w/ ff3.53 on puppy 4.20 though, or earlier......... on those I use Firepup. :)

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#160 Post by sunburnt »

ttuuxxx; My assumption was based on many Puppies I`ve tried.
I really thought Pup-431 would have it, maybe there`s a difference?

First time I`ve tried Aqualung, there`s probably behavior settings.
Different apps. are always a new curve, one mans improvement is...

Yep... That`s my experience, write an app. and the next PC it crashes.

Semperon 2400+, 256 MB ram, ATI 7500 Radeon, std. desktop PC.
I`ll try with less apps. running, if SFS file loads to ram maybe low mem.

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#161 Post by James C »

Bored again so I grabbed my old 501 mhz AMD K-6 off the shelf to try out Puppies 4.31.1 running live.I was surprised that such a new kernel even booted but no problem.

Firefox works pretty well, no crashes, but scrolling and flash performance are not the greatest.....not horrible but not great either.

Hard to find anything up-to-date that will work on this thing....presently running a severely nlited XP and Puppy 3.01.

Now, on to 214 X11..... :)

Oh, 501 mhz, 384 mb ram w/ 960 mb swap.......

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#162 Post by mikeb »

Hmm sludgy firefox 3.5 scrolling on 4 and random crashes with flashplayer varying from machine to machine. SInce other causes have been gradually eliminated I'm again looking at xorg...certainly if behaviour varies from graphics driver to graphics driver that may well explain the variety of instability....your gut feeling is that something has to be done with xorg but what??. The most stable boxes are using the generic vesa driver under xorg..hmm.
Indeed one box was crashing every 2 minutes on you tube so I went back to flashplayer 7.
Just my observations.

Well take it easy and hot lemon/ginger/honey is a good one

mike

ps...one setup never crashes....
puppy 2.02. regression, standard apart from updated glibc(was ok before) rage128 ati card, pentium 3 , firefox 1.5 , flash 9...a conundrum

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#163 Post by panzerpuppy »

Looks like PCs with ATI cards (Rage, Radeon, RadeonHD) have no problems with Firefox 3.x :)

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#164 Post by ttuuxxx »

I'm thinking that 4 series might need a new xorg compile with extra features/drivers include, something like 2.14X/R have plus a few more.
I won't be doing it, I would rather focus on 2.20 and wait for series 5 to come alive, Dpup was the closest for FF3.5 to run as smooth as 2.14X on my pc out of the box. So I bet that X-server has few more modules than 4.31.1 does.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#165 Post by mikeb »

Looks like PCs with ATI cards (Rage, Radeon, RadeonHD) have no problems with Firefox 3.x
Having read about some of adobe's dubious approaches to handing graphic cards this selective performance comes as no surprise...not to mention other hidden antics in the flashplayer.
Indeed the changelogs mention various crash scenerios even on windows.

They should have stuck to printing :D

regards

mike

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#166 Post by davesurrey »

Just to further confirm what has been suggested above, I've experienced image rendering problems with FF3.5 on both Pup431.1 and ttuuxxx's 214X series on a few sites. This is on my test PC using nvidia graphics cards (tried 2 of them.) and xorg.

But when I tried using xvesa just now the problem disappears.

Also 431.1 works just fine on another PC using a Radeon ATI card under xorg.

FWIW, HTH
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#167 Post by ttuuxxx »

That means Dave probably for 2.20 I'll have to compile X-server with extra features, There's noway that I'm going to drop Firefox 2-3.5 since I finally figured out what makes it runs smoothly on my pc for the first time in 4 series. The only issue are which extras are needed, probably just a trial and error until I get it right on 2.20 and then I could drop the older X-server, I'll start on it probably during the end of the weekend, Still sick as a dog. What a nasty cold I have.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#168 Post by dejan555 »

Hey ttuuxxx finally downloaded your iso to try out, I got one with standard Xserver, I have ATI Radeon 9250, no firefox crashes here, flash sites work too but maybe not optimum overall like in your 2.x series, there's a bit of slowdown.

Now goes my usual whining about hiawatha, pplog says 403 forbiden when I try to start it, haven't tested yet if it works for others as webserver but I see it's bind to 127.0.0.1 interface in config

I really like how you configure firefox with puppy links on toolbar and simple mail and google homepage, that's so cool, since I start using dpup with your ff package I barely use seamonkey.

Hope you get better soon, beat that cold...
puppy.b0x.me stuff mirrored [url=https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Mb589v0iCXNnhSZWRwd3R2UWs]HERE[/url] or [url=http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_puppy.b0x.me_mirror]HERE[/url]

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#169 Post by davesurrey »

Yes ttuuxxx I agree and I definitely wouldn't want you to drop FF3.5. Just trying to give you guys some confirmation to help pin point what might need to be done.

Another bit of the jigsaw...I just downloaded dpup476j on the PC that gives some rendering trouble with 214X and 431.1 and all was well with FF. So whatever they use in dpup seems to work.
HTH

Get well :-)
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#170 Post by scsijon »

Firstly, I must say, Great Version Ttuuxxx, by the look if things and it seems to be fairly stable at last (knock wood).

However a question :?:

If I would like a xvesa only version, what is the loss, both in size and what apps will no longer work? And would you please consider building one.

I have boxes I look after that I doubt will ever want xorg due to their limitations and i'd like to update them from 2.16.1. plus a few patches and pet's.

thanks
scsijon
ps do you have a thread for your 2.20 posted somewhere?

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