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#121 Post by ttuuxxx »

I am building it on puppy 2.18 or what i call 2.20(2.18 updated woof version) and also will try to port it 2.14X later on maybe.
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#122 Post by mavrothal »

Just in case is of any use to anyone ( :P ) WiFi access is OK now but only with open access points. Encrypted APs still fail.
The next problem is that there is no sound and the alsawizard just launches and quits with a bunch of errors.
Finally, hardware scan identifies components but does not know what they are or what module to use.
I think that HAL may be at the root of all these issues. But then again...

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#123 Post by eowens2 »

Mavrothal asked about my use of the initrd and pup_412.sfs files.

I am trying to do an all-in-memory construct (is this what is called a "frugal" install?), so as to get some speed.

In initrd there is almost no XO present except for the modules compiled with the new kernel. "init" in initrd is from puppy with a few lines tweaked.

pup_412.sfs is unsquashed with squashfs-tools, XO's newly compiled kernel and modules are inserted, and the .sfs file is re-squashed and on boot copied to tmpfs in ram. I have unsquashed => tinkered => resquashed => rebooted about a gazillion times now trying to get the darn thing to make a window for me! Tinkering has consisted of such things as using XO's xorg-dcon.conf in lieu of puppy's xorg.conf, and moving the XO's amd and endev drivers over to the puppy.

But so far no luck in getting a window.

I downloaded the uPup-451 and booted it from CD on my desktop. It must not have liked my n Vidia C 51 GeForce 6150 LE, because even after several tries it would not run X-windows. It did however like Xversa, and had no problems with my wireless.

For the heck of it I tried the pup_451.sfs with the XO_pup/kernel_initrd, and it said "panic" at switch_root.

A question for some of you old hands out there: what mode of video support is in effect while xorgwizard is soliciting one's choices for xorg, xversa, resolution, etc?

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#124 Post by mavrothal »

That's very interesting eowens2
eowens2 wrote: In initrd there is almost no XO present except for the modules compiled with the new kernel. "init" in initrd is from puppy with a few lines tweaked.
Could you upload your init script here to take a look? Better yet a diff file
eowens2 wrote:pup_412.sfs is unsquashed with squashfs-tools, XO's newly compiled kernel and modules are inserted, and the .sfs file is re-squashed and on boot copied to tmpfs in ram.
Did you "remaster CD" or manually squashed the whole thing?
eowens2 wrote:I have unsquashed => tinkered => resquashed => rebooted about a gazillion times now trying to get the darn thing to make a window for me!
but do you get the Xserver going on the full install or is a problem there still?
eowens2 wrote:Tinkering has consisted of such things as using XO's xorg-dcon.conf in lieu of puppy's xorg.conf, and moving the XO's amd and endev drivers over to the puppy.
I do not think this is going to work. Did you try any of the geode driver pets from here instead of the OLPC ones. 2.10.1 if I remember correctly was working fine on the XO (the fedora version)
eowens2 wrote:A question for some of you old hands out there: what mode of video support is in effect while xorgwizard is soliciting one's choices for xorg, xversa, resolution, etc?
I'm not an old hand but I believe is using the frame buffer.

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#125 Post by hailpuppy »

HI Guys,
Isn,t Sugar based on Fedora? If it is based on Fedora why dont we try using a Fedora based puppy to tackle xo laptop now that we have woof .?

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#126 Post by mavrothal »

hailpuppy wrote:HI Guys,
Isn,t Sugar based on Fedora? If it is based on Fedora why dont we try using a Fedora based puppy to tackle xo laptop now that we have woof .?
Because puppy/woof can handle dpkg/apt but not rpm/yum (yet). Or at least nobody showed that it can...

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#127 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote:I am building it on puppy 2.18...
Any luck?... or the present continuous was a figure of speech? :wink:
(Just bugging you :lol: )

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#128 Post by ttuuxxx »

hi mavrothal I'm working on it right now, I'll let you know
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#129 Post by rafadelcyber »

Hello, my best wishes for the new year. XOpup.iso hope to see soon.!!

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#130 Post by davesurrey »

Just seen this. Seems XO-2 is cancelled.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8428147.stm
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#131 Post by mavrothal »

I know is the holidays, but has been awfully quite around here in particular... :cry:

Happy New Year Puppers :D

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#132 Post by ttuuxxx »

I'm still working on it, but still trying to do a few other puppy projects, Next week I'll be able to spend tons of time on It, I'm going on holidays tomorrow for just a couple of days camping with the wife and kids :)
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#133 Post by ttuuxxx »

also I don't have any faith in touch screens, I think the XO 3 version is a terrible idea.
I'll be around for version 1 but I don't think touch screens are handy enough compared to a working keyboard, for one thing think about what the people in poor countries are going to use to clean a screen like every day, they won't be able to afford the cleaning products, then you think is water-proof etc.
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#134 Post by hailpuppy »

Yep!I was feeling rather sad also Mavrothal to see this issue not being raised for some time. But didnt have the heart to pinch ttuuxxx either knowing very well the loads of stuff he's adding to the world of puppies. While I was going through the OLPC news section I came across this OS called Xtra Ordinary OS especially designed for XO laptop. ttuuxxx, why don't you jump over there a bit also if you haven't done that yet. Perhaps you might catch something useful there. And mavrothal, why can't we seek the help of Barry in this issue, well at least just to see what he can do with woof in this particular matter. If we are not sure of anything in either Puppy or Woof I guess he should be the man to turn to.

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#135 Post by ttuuxxx »

hailpuppy wrote:Yep!I was feeling rather sad also Mavrothal to see this issue not being raised for some time. But didnt have the heart to pinch ttuuxxx either knowing very well the loads of stuff he's adding to the world of puppies. While I was going through the OLPC news section I came across this OS called Xtra Ordinary OS especially designed for XO laptop. ttuuxxx, why don't you jump over there a bit also if you haven't done that yet. Perhaps you might catch something useful there. And mavrothal, why can't we seek the help of Barry in this issue, well at least just to see what he can do with woof in this particular matter. If we are not sure of anything in either Puppy or Woof I guess he should be the man to turn to.
Next week I'll try to get Quirky running on it, Since that is the smallest woof version and the latest.
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#136 Post by raffy »

Well, for now, ttuuxxx, enjoy the summer and outdoors DownUnder! :D
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#137 Post by mavrothal »

ttuuxxx wrote: Next week I'll try to get Quirky running on it, Since that is the smallest woof version and the latest.
ttuuxxx
I have noticed your progress with quirky :wink: Indeed looks like the right choice for the XOpup.
So for next (Huppy New :lol: ) year ttuuxxx, have you decided on the kernel to use? Is it going to be vanilla BK's patched or OLPC's? As I said before olpc's 2.6.3x still have problems but I do not know if the last 'official" 2.6.25 is patchable.
Anyway, enjoy the sun till next year :D
hailpuppy wrote:Yep!I was feeling rather sad also Mavrothal to see this issue not being raised for some time. But didnt have the heart to pinch ttuuxxx either knowing very well the loads of stuff he's adding to the world of puppies. While I was going through the OLPC news section I came across this OS called Xtra Ordinary OS especially designed for XO laptop. ttuuxxx, why don't you jump over there a bit also if you haven't done that yet. Perhaps you might catch something useful there. And mavrothal, why can't we seek the help of Barry in this issue, well at least just to see what he can do with woof in this particular matter. If we are not sure of anything in either Puppy or Woof I guess he should be the man to turn to.
Xtra Ordinary as well as DEBorah are DebXO variants. They are OK but they do not have the speed that is expected fom the well functioning XOpup. As alternative OSs for the XO is going, Teapot's Ubuntu 8.10 is the best speed-functionality-stability-ease of use OS, I believe.
Now regarding BK a) I'm sure he has seen this and has decided on his priorities b) I'm sure he has faith in ttuuxx (as we all :D ) and c) I'm sure that if his help is requested on a specific issue that he has the expertise on he will be willing to help. of course I have been wrong many times in my life :lol:

Finally regarding XO-3, 4, 54... is all vaporware, not even the hardware developers knew anything about it... They are still trying to get XO-1.5 out that still needs one more revision before production begins.

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#138 Post by fsabatino »

Hi ttuuxxx! Hope you're enjoying the Aussie summer.
Hey, quick question... I noticed an XOpup iso in one of your directories.

Is this a working copy? Is this the result of the work you have done so far?

Are we missing an "announcement"?

Cheers and please let us know if this is work in progress (no matter how long it takes).

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#139 Post by ttuuxxx »

hi fsabatino naaa that was a trial and error version that doesn't work, I did compile the kernel in it for xo but it didn't boot, I'm just finishing up a few ends before I get down into XO again, I have so many projects on the go, I would like to get rid of one or more lol Also In the background I'm helping out a lot with other peoples puppy projects, There's more going on then what you see/read in this forum :wink:
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#140 Post by fsabatino »

No doubt! I have seen some of the activities in the forum. And more importantly, the holidays with the family as well!
I'll continue monitoring this thread. My girfriend's 8 year old is driving me nuts, hence the follow up.
Take care and enjoy the summer! I'll touch base every now and then to see how things are going.
Cheers! :D

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