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rpkopreski


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct 2009, 10:47    Post subject:  ChemPup-0.2.6
Subject description: Chemical Software Puplet
 

I wanted to announce the availability of my first puplet ChemPup. I would appreciate any feedback for this niche puplet. I am finishing my doctoral research in the area of physical organic chemistry and this side-project has been a wonderful diversion to writing my dissertation!!

ChemPup can be found at www.chemtoolbox.com and registered users will have access to the download repository. Many thanks to the Puppy Linux community for providing me with and facilitating such an exciting project!

Please see attached screen shot.

I also wondered how I could submit ChemPup to the Puplets Page on the new PuppyLinux.org site? I registered but do not know how to submit a description and screenshots. Thanks in advance.
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rpkopreski


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 16:02    Post subject: Looking for feedback  

I appreciate many views (hits) of this thread over the past few days and several folks have registered and downloaded ChemPup. I just wanted to probe a little and request some feedback. I am worried that I have made significant errors as I am still a noob with this stuff. I really want to produce a very useful puplet so any feedback will be appreciated, pos or neg.

Thanks to all!

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sidders

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 16:25    Post subject:  

I havnt used your pup, but i think this is a great example of specialising Puppy. Its one of its many strenghs. I will pass it on to someone i know who is into Chemistry (the legal kind). The closest i came to it was the song by Tom Lehrer. Laughing

I will pass back any findings.
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rpkopreski


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 15:36    Post subject:  

Thanks Sidders.

Apologies right now to anyone trying to get a copy of ChemPup. I had to remove it as I found some "sensitive" information had been passed on. I will be remastering today and should have something up in the next day or two.

Also note I get the following on one of the older PCs in my house:

kernel panic - not syncing - attempted to kill init

Does anyone know the issue here? I'm guessing it is kernel incompatibility with older hardware and I would have to rebuild ChemPup from Puppy 2.16 to deal with this...just a guess though.

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ndujoe1

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15    Post subject: Chemistry PUp  

Keep us updated when you have a stable version finished. An excellent idea! When I get it later i plan to pass it along to my niece who is a Chemistry whiz.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 21:30    Post subject:  

A suggestion. What you have done is assemble a suite of chemistry-oriented software and getting it to work (no mean feat!) on top of a standard puppy. A better way to make it available to others might be to prepare a squashed filesystem (say chem.sfs) which contains all the executables, libraries, documents, icons, desktop files etc. that have been added. It is how the C compiler and the Openoffice suites are currently distributed. WIth an sfs file, another frugal install user need only copy the file to have all this capability in addition to the customizations that he has already done on his own. An sfs file also has the advantages of not taking up ram space in a running puppy and that it will continue to be useable with newer versions of the base system.

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 22:25    Post subject:  

Minimatter,

The chem.sfs file is a great idea. Unfortunately I have no idea how to accomplish this at this point. If anyone has some literature on this I would appreciate pointing me in the right direction. I never would have thought of this (well...maybe eventually!). I will have to look into this!

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 05:01    Post subject:
Subject description: sfs
 

If you have pets of the apps, then this is what i used:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38432
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 08:49    Post subject: converting pet to sfs and v.v.
Subject description: sfs pet
 

In order to convert a pet to sfs and v.v. there is this nifty tool

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40457

There are also some "barebones around" e.g. 4.1.2 by wolfpup.

Dpno whether thisis more difficult / I am no ttweaker/
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 11:06    Post subject: New ISOs Available for beta testing  

There are now two ChemPup ISOs available for download at chemtoolbox.com. The Lite version may be a better alternative for older hardware, weighing in at ~370MB, it omits OpenOffice (which can be added later as a .sfs) and WINE (which removes SciFinder Scholar).

Please note although these should be stable, I know I have been somewhat sloppy with personal information (i.e. browser history). I don't think I left behind passwords but I will be adjusting as needed. Shocked

This has been such a wonderful, fascinating, frustrating, challenging experience for me and so interesting to see all the different learning paths that can be taken. I am probably going to try to rebuild ChemPup from scratch (4.2.1) making PETs along the way and see about producing a CHEM.sfs files as suggested. Thanks to all for suggestions!

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct 2009, 12:58    Post subject: md5sums available  

Thanks to the chempup user that requested the md5sum for the ISOs available at chemtoolbox.com they have been generated and listed under the "description" of the download page.

So far I have heard from a few that the ISOs are working. I am looking forward to future suggestions.

Also, I have installed a forum on chemtoolbox.com (agora) and have just started configuring it. Eventually general ChemPup questions and discussion from users will be encouraged at the new forum, and I will continue to use this thread and forum to work out development issues.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 09:43    Post subject: news  

News item: news/puplets/chempup-chemistry-puplet/
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 13:22    Post subject: Puplet News Thanks  

Thank you raffy for for adding ChemPup to the official puplet page at puppylinux.org.

I would like to note that I contacted the authors of the periodic table graphic I have had as my ChemPup desktop wallpaper and they noted that it cannot be used for commercial purposes. I don't think this is a problem for display on the website screenshot but to avoid any issues, I have generated a different ChemToolBox.com wallpaper and will be changing all the screenshots at ChemToolBox.com. If you get a chance raffy, could you swap screenshots? Thank You.

New ISOs have been uploaded that also reflect this change.

Regards

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