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[PaulBx1]

Just got around to actually trying an upgrade, from 4.1.2 (from which I had uninstalled all pet packages). Wow, the upgrade process is seriously broken.

Here is a screenshot of my icons, including folder icons in a rox window. Also note the missing menu icons, and that there is no yellow dot on sda2. The bootmanager/icon issue shouldn't be a problem here because I am not loading anything with the bootmanager:


Here is another. In this one I was looking for the versioncleanup directory in /tmp. I found it in /initrd/pup_rw/tmp, but not in /tmp. This tells me unionfs is not working right:


Another item is that I had set up a root password in 4.1.2, but this did not come across in the upgrade. In other words, I was automatically logged in as root without password, the standard Puppy setup.

This is a shame. Booting pfix=ram looked very good for me. Not sure what to do now.

[`f00]

For my limited use it's all pretty much good to go - as a bugfix to p430 'ironed out'. About the only minor nits for me are
1) some uncommenting of /usr/bin/restartwm, wmexit, wmpoweroff and wmreboot (3 lines towards or at end) to enable plogout, etc without having to 'kick' action with ctrl+alt+bs .. thanx for the hint from elsewhere, runtt21 - could this be an issue for anyone else?
2) maybe wakepup2 could be updated to see other fs than fat16/32? or .. was trying to boot to thumbdrive (formatted .3fs) without liveCD as part of the ongoing adventure in trying other ways (old BIOS only has floppy, CD and HDD) and I finally gave up (stepping thru little things like 'does the name need an _ rather than a -' and commands I haven't much clue about gets old quickly for me )
3) remaster went fine, was fairly simple to fix the 'upgrade'/restoring 'official' stuff .. and this time I even got acpi=force into isolinux.config so a full poweroff is standard on my vintageware

addendi-re to previous posts..
p1- @gerry, simply rename (example ._2fs) the extension works for me 100% of the time *oops*, tempting the gremlins "..interesting" I've seen when the dog finds tasty savefile(s) on hdd or *wherever* and gulps without asking, gnz11

user option of free or used displayed as % of available-total or #/# - gui can be tricky and displaying such for optical drives is probably better left to burner s/w, imvho

yep, nubc - one of the reasons I like to clear the deck (especially something like a lock or any encrypt/password/etc), when buttonmasks were working for jwm I even did the x as a Q to remind myself of the usual key

hmmz, /tmp/versioncleanup definite for me (with switch of 'dummy' 1st savefile to a copy/rename of p425's in another pup and then 2nd p431 boot)

mmya - there's a lot to be said for the (standard on liveCD multi) user-choice of save/no_save .. may have touched on that in ref to save2flash option on the last real testreport I did (p425?)

fwiw, I think the save for all the personal adds I did started back around .. maybe up476 and p431 suffers them well

[Bruce_n_Duane]

I installed Pup_431.iso on USB Flash Drive.
Added OpenOffice_311_sfs4.sfs to /mnt/home

Have icons for OpenOffice apps on desktop.

How do I modify the system and/or ROX configuration to be able to click on the filename of an OO saved file and have it start OpenOffice and open the file?

I would like to support wordprocessor files (.odt, .doc, .txt, .docx ....)
spreadsheets (.ods, excel, ....)
and soforth for all savable OpenOffice file formats.

Please be detailed. Thanks,

I want to automate this so I can pass out disks of Puppy 431 with OpenOffice
to every Windows User I meet!!!

-Bruce.

[shinobar]

[mawebb88]

[ecube]

Thanks Shinobar! Much better. I have revised PartView accordingly.

[mawebb88]

[PaulBx1]

Mike, that desktop icon switcher app only changes the icons that already exist (e.g., the connect icon) and does nothing with those other things that are just missing (e.g. my browse or write icons). Oh, it did bring the menu icons back though.

I have no problem with ALSA or the tray volume slider; maybe Barry also sees no problem and thus cannot fix them. Well, my alsamixer settings did not come across in the upgrade, kind of a small thing.

I'm still worried about unionfs not working properly.

[mawebb88]

[Bruce_n_Duane]

Thank Mike, that works great!!!

Mike = mawebb88 wrote:

[vtpup]

I tried again to upgrade from 4.1.2 (2.6.25.16 kernal) frugal to 4.3.1 final (late kernel). I renamed a copy of my pup-save to pupsave and booted.

X kept crashing this time. Couldn't even get past xorgwizard. Tried xvesa and xorg. No go. Xwin couldn't start the windows.

When it dropped me to terminal mode I did see some error messages --

[Sage]

Why does the PDF utility constantly pop up when using the disc transfer utility?

[vtpup]

re. my report above, don't know if it has any bearing on the 4.1.2 upgrade process, but, also, my personal savefile is light encrypted

[PaulBx1]

Sage, what disk transfer utility?

I was able to set one of my unset icons (the play icon) by first right-clicking on it and selecting "show location", which pointed me to defaultmediaplayer in /usr/local/bin. I right-clicked that and selected "set icon" and set it to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/multimedia48.png, taking a hint from one of my functional icons. This gave me the correct icon. I think it's the correct icon, anyway.

What I'm wondering is, why are all these icons left unset by the upgrade process?

I also noticed a collection of icons in /root/.thumbnails/normal, apparently taking up space in my pupsave. Are these really necessary? There is also /root/.icons/ROX/MIME, which has more icons.

It seems like the icon setting process in Puppy is overcomplicated and error-prone. I wonder what it means to "set icon" in Rox? I imagine it just puts an entry in a file somewhere, but unfortunately the process is masked from me making this hard to fix. What a mess.

<later>
OK, I got a screenshot of my pfix=ram icons so I knew what they looked like, then I used the above procedure to set all the rest of the icons manually. Not the smoothest upgrade. <grumble>

[scsijon]

cd arrived from barry
1 hour later (or maybe a little less)
put in cd drive of "testcomputer-l"
looked in workbook to see which spare partition I can use, added info to workbook. Each of my systems have their own, else I have no idea on what's on them or where it is.

attempted startup from CD

failed to start x after setting X up
- had this problem before with this machine as it only uses the internal Intel 82945G video
started x manually
OK

everything seemed to run and link ok so used puppy ui to do a full install to parn 7 (hd0,6)

ok

mounted parn with grub,
edited existing grub menu.list with what was in "grub update message" (nice idea someone, rather than just overwriting it as in the past) I thought it was all ok.

closed down, removed cd, rebooted
selected partition from grub menu
...booting

PROBLEM 1 - with solution

Kernal Panic - not syncing
VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
etc

GRUMBLE GRUMBLE

restarted from CD loading with ram only
everything was ok
back to check the grub menu.lst in case of a typo
compaired it to doc on cd
AH HA, v4 uses sda not hda as v2/3 was
fixed spelling
shutdown, etc

rebooted, all OK now to load
- however any v2/3 parn's want hda in grub, not sda (at least mine do)


Problem 2 (?is to me anyway) - not solved
Row of devices shown on bottom was incomplete, no DVD's or CD Tower drives visable/shown
Found they didn't appear UNTIL there was something in them!
Except the Floppy drive always shows even when empty
THIS IS INCONSISTANT
How do I fix it, please, or will it remain as a bug we have to put up with?

Problem 3 - not solved
Copied other .sfs from cd to /mnt/home as listed to use
Started Puppy Setup
Picked Bootmanager to add them to the startup

error: Sorry there are no SFS files in directory /mnt/home (or they all have the wrong *_nnn.sfs version number. You will need to download and place one there first.

Checked location, ok
copied to same place with shortened name _431.sfs
checked permissions, ok

still same error

help please.

problem 4 - not solved

how do I set the "modem speaker volume" without changing the whole volume?
doesn't worry me as i'm seriously deaf, but it's creating hell with those around me

that's all for now, enough to start with anyway.

Otherwise for a first play I like the beast.

scsijon